EPTPuma leaves TSL for EG - Page 272
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chocopaw
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Yew
United States940 Posts
On July 22 2011 09:42 Greatness wrote: If Puma liked TSL's offer, he wouldn't have been interested in joining EG. 'Nuff said. TSL doesn't offer enough for him. Puma is just greedy lol, TSL doesn't offer as much money as EG apparently. | ||
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OrchidThief
Denmark2298 Posts
On July 22 2011 09:42 babylon wrote: So, Puma is going to be leaving Korea? For international tournaments, yes. | ||
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kakaman
United States1576 Posts
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thedz
United States217 Posts
On July 22 2011 09:41 BroOd wrote: why does the international scene matter (in the context of what I'm talking about)? -Milkis "Why does the international scene matter (in the context of what I'm talking about when an international team is about to contract a Korean player)?" - Milkis | ||
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Sqq
Norway2023 Posts
On July 22 2011 09:42 Longshank wrote: I wish this would have been on SotG instead. Wheat and WoC is in bed with EG, that's no arena for a proper discussion on this matter. Thats not the problem at all here. AG seems a lot better at public speaking than Milkis and it shines through. | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
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Barkziee
United Kingdom138 Posts
On July 22 2011 09:40 PhyreHazard wrote: why does the international scene matter -Milkis wtf, of course it matter. Western esport/player are just as relevant as koreans. I don't care - Garfield (in a quote somewhere within the last 10 years) owait context matters | ||
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{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
On July 22 2011 09:42 Longshank wrote: I wish this would have been on SotG instead. Wheat and WoC is in bed with EG, that's no arena for a proper discussion on this matter. sadly this is true, as much as i love wheat but his dickriding on eg is kinda annoying sometimes | ||
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seiferoth10
3362 Posts
On July 22 2011 09:41 Yew wrote: I mean Korean teams don't "poach" players from other teams. What I'm saying is that they knew foreign teams are looking at Korean players, shouldn't they figure out that there are different cultural standards, and protect themselves as well as their players? | ||
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SharkSpider
Canada606 Posts
That said, teams are more than just financial entities, so this does look a little bad. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On July 22 2011 09:39 Porcelina wrote: If EG's intention was to grow in Korea, was it not a massive oversight not to actually make the effort to contact TSL before PuMa talked to his coach? If you want to grow infrastructure in Korea, to access that playerbase and to make contacts as AG has stated repeatedly, do you not think that what you did is counter-productive to this concern? Because, once again, EG handed out business cards, and Puma took the discussions further. At most, EG should have said "we'll be handing out business cards", but that would be rather silly. The moment when Puma decided to go further with the discussion is when someone probably should have been contacted, but the onus there was really on Puma, rather than EG shutting the door in his face until they'd told Mr. Lee. After that, Puma made it clear that he wanted to talk to Mr. Lee himself. So once again, should EG be expected to tell all the Korean teams that they'll be handed out business cards? | ||
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A Wet Shamwow
United States1590 Posts
On July 22 2011 09:39 Porcelina wrote: If djWHEAT did his job as a journalist there is one question that must be asked: If EG's intention was to grow in Korea, was it not a massive oversight not to actually make the effort to contact TSL before PuMa talked to his coach? If you want to grow infrastructure in Korea, to access that playerbase and to make contacts as AG has stated repeatedly, do you not think that what you did is counter-productive to this concern? Honestly, I do not blame EG in this matter at all. But this is full of empty words. Or maybe they asked Puma what he thinks they should do, he says ill talk to my coach, coach says its cool, coach flips out, no chance for eg to talk to them yet. | ||
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Corrosive
Canada3741 Posts
On July 22 2011 09:42 babylon wrote: So, Puma is going to be leaving Korea? To me it sounds like they will fly him out a few weeks prior to a major event to practice with EG But otherwise they will let him practice in korea (afaik) | ||
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hoby2000
United States918 Posts
On July 22 2011 09:39 Porcelina wrote: If djWHEAT did his job as a journalist there is one question that must be asked: If EG's intention was to grow in Korea, was it not a massive oversight not to actually make the effort to contact TSL before PuMa talked to his coach? If you want to grow infrastructure in Korea, to access that playerbase and to make contacts as AG has stated repeatedly, do you not think that what you did is counter-productive to this concern? Honestly, I do not blame EG in this matter at all. But this is full of empty words. He already answered this question - Puma himself told EG that he wanted to talk to the Coach BEFORE EG did. Also, there's nothing wrong with talking to players or even explaining to them that you're looking for Korean players for your team. They weren't planning to sign there, or even go into more detail with Puma, but Puma requested more details. Everyone who is mad at EG needs to be mad at Puma - simple as that. Also, Coach Lee has blown this entire thing out of perspective, and has spawned hate mongers on this thread, which is absolutely disgusting. People need to stop being ignorant pieces of shit, and actually LISTEN, instead instantly assuming that Alex Garfield is only trying to make the situation sound better. I'm so sick of reading all of this stupid shit. Please don't post if you're just going to say "Oh, he's just trying to spin words so he sounds like the good guy." FUCK OFF. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On July 22 2011 09:41 BroOd wrote: why does the international scene matter (in the context of what I'm talking about)? -Milkis Because professional SC2 does not exist entirely within the context of South Korea like it did with BW. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On July 22 2011 09:39 Porcelina wrote: If djWHEAT did his job as a journalist there is one question that must be asked: If EG's intention was to grow in Korea, was it not a massive oversight not to actually make the effort to contact TSL before PuMa talked to his coach? If you want to grow infrastructure in Korea, to access that playerbase and to make contacts as AG has stated repeatedly, do you not think that what you did is counter-productive to this concern? Honestly, I do not blame EG in this matter at all. But this is full of empty words. They talked to Puma. Puma said he'd do the communication with the TSL. Puma told EG that the conversations went well. TSL Coach Lee didn't seem to take it so well. There's definitely a cultural aspect to this. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 22 2011 09:42 InvalidID wrote: That sounds like a well run company to me. Why would you not poach under-compensated talent if it is available and you have the need for it? It is just standard operations for most companies, and it benefits employees at the cost of employers who do not compensate their employees sufficiently. This, awesome. | ||
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Grimsong
United States252 Posts
On July 22 2011 09:42 marvin. wrote: Everyone seems to quoting this, but I think milkis was interrupted by djwheat before he was even able to make his point. He wasn't really saying the international scene doesn't matter - that would be just ignorant. He was rather talking about the korean culture and trying to help Alex understand why the way they approached Puma created the uproar that it did. Your saying he isn't saying the international scene doesn't matter, because the fact that the international scene doesn't matter is just the perspective Korea has as a culture. What? | ||
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Krikan
Norway520 Posts
The rest is just a hell of a lot of bullshit really. Milkis has a view that supports the korean way, while AG sees shit from the corporate viewpoint. | ||
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