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ktimekiller
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States690 Posts
July 22 2011 00:38 GMT
#5381
On July 22 2011 09:36 meep wrote:
"It's not unethical, it's just the way we run the company"
-AG



Haha shows how EG looks at things
llatszer
Profile Joined September 2010
United States70 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 00:39:24
July 22 2011 00:38 GMT
#5382
On July 22 2011 09:37 Corrosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 09:36 llatszer wrote:
I don't get why people are complaining about what AG is saying, please tell me. All he is doing is telling the truth. Puma had no contract and so we took him, it is not our problem.


Because they dont understand what he is saying so they say things like "hes using long words to confused pple"

People have been complaining about EG and Alex the whole thread and most of the complaining is baseless.


Thanks, I am not trying to be cynical but AG and Wheat know how the business works and some of the community (including Milkis) are not quite sure how this works.
EDIT: That sounds cynical but I don't know how to reword what I just said.
Twoinches
Profile Joined April 2010
United States131 Posts
July 22 2011 00:38 GMT
#5383
On July 22 2011 09:38 hazelynut wrote:
ahahah when AG called TL one of the smartest communities, why did it sound so sarcastic?

because this thread makes a lot of them sound silly.
Paris hilton Is my Lord and Savior
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
July 22 2011 00:38 GMT
#5384
On July 22 2011 09:38 hazelynut wrote:
ahahah when AG called TL one of the smartest communities, why did it sound so sarcastic?


and here comes the tinfoil hat brigade. TL witchhunts are so pathetic and make the community look like children.
sekritzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
1515 Posts
July 22 2011 00:38 GMT
#5385
Milkis calling it like it is and then DJwheat cuts him...... wtf. That was messed up. He never bothered cutting AG throughout his 40minute rants but decides to cut milkis in his 2-3min rant?
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
July 22 2011 00:39 GMT
#5386
On July 22 2011 09:37 Sqq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 09:36 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
On July 22 2011 09:35 Sqq wrote:
On July 22 2011 09:34 floor exercise wrote:
Jesus this guy just doesn't stop talking


I think talk shows are a little above your league. Spongebob might be on TV.

its not a talk show if someone is having a monologue.


AG is very good at getting his points across and he is free to talk about his points as long as he gets time for it. Every thing he says is very informative but some people only tuned in to hear AG tell how he hates Lee or something.



Well djwheat could try to moderate it a bit in order to level field at least to a certain degree.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Yew
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States940 Posts
July 22 2011 00:39 GMT
#5387
On July 22 2011 09:37 thanhbao86 wrote:
You guys need to understand Asian cultures (Korean in this case) first before pulling out the no-contract crap. That does not work in Korea. Try to understand that please.

I think this is what Milkis is trying to say. In Korea, not many teams do this kind of thing while EG have done this many times before.
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
July 22 2011 00:39 GMT
#5388
i dont get at all why everyone is making such a scene about it ....
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
July 22 2011 00:39 GMT
#5389
On July 22 2011 09:38 Tenhou wrote:
It's 2v1, djwheat and AG vs Milkis.


I think that saying the KeSPA model could work for the rest of the world is very inaccurate and naive at this point in time. And let's not forget that while KeSPA did some good, they weren't exactly a saintly organization. Or have we all forgotten?
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
July 22 2011 00:39 GMT
#5390
On July 22 2011 09:38 EchoZ wrote:
"why does the international scene matter"

That kicks the bucket..

The Korean community needs to lose their hubris, seriously.
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
July 22 2011 00:39 GMT
#5391
On July 22 2011 09:33 Twoinches wrote:
All I have taken from this thread is this.

People Hate when other people get the CHANCE OF A LIFETIME.

this Kid may MAY have done ok even gone to code s after what 4-5 months. when this other company comes a long and says "hey we will pay you to travel all over the world and play in TONS of different tourneys, your young enjoy life and we will bankroll that". Outside of Korea this kid will live the fucking dream. if you were 19 and played with friends and a guy gave you the same deal but you had to leave your friends for a couple years, you would be a idiot for not taking that.

Poor Puma for having fun.

Nobody hates or anything. They just don't like this move at all. Just like you grow your best student and he'd be taken away on his first day outside the country. Feel like betrayal you know.
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
July 22 2011 00:39 GMT
#5392
If djWHEAT did his job as a journalist there is one question that must be asked:

If EG's intention was to grow in Korea, was it not a massive oversight not to actually make the effort to contact TSL before PuMa talked to his coach? If you want to grow infrastructure in Korea, to access that playerbase and to make contacts as AG has stated repeatedly, do you not think that what you did is counter-productive to this concern?

Honestly, I do not blame EG in this matter at all. But this is full of empty words.
VillageBC
Profile Joined January 2011
322 Posts
July 22 2011 00:39 GMT
#5393
On July 22 2011 09:35 Nothingtosay wrote:
I"m conflicted on how I should view puma. On one hand he has every motivation to do everything to further his career in the most meaningful way. One the other hand it seems as though TSL was good to puma and now that he "has it made" he is done with what was a stepping stone of a team.


I used my first 30k/yr job as a stepping stone as well.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 22 2011 00:39 GMT
#5394
On July 22 2011 09:38 EchoZ wrote:
"why does the international scene matter"

Why does the Korea scene matter? Their players are pretty good, but their business sense sucks.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 00:40:18
July 22 2011 00:40 GMT
#5395
lots of buzzwords here
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
Tenhou
Profile Joined April 2011
1052 Posts
July 22 2011 00:40 GMT
#5396
On July 22 2011 09:39 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 09:38 Tenhou wrote:
It's 2v1, djwheat and AG vs Milkis.


I think that saying the KeSPA model could work for the rest of the world is very inaccurate and naive at this point in time. And let's not forget that while KeSPA did some good, they weren't exactly a saintly organization. Or have we all forgotten?


I'm talking about djwheat only disrupt Milkis and I've never heard of him disrupting AG while he rants.
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
July 22 2011 00:40 GMT
#5397
On July 22 2011 09:39 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 09:37 Sqq wrote:
On July 22 2011 09:36 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
On July 22 2011 09:35 Sqq wrote:
On July 22 2011 09:34 floor exercise wrote:
Jesus this guy just doesn't stop talking


I think talk shows are a little above your league. Spongebob might be on TV.

its not a talk show if someone is having a monologue.


AG is very good at getting his points across and he is free to talk about his points as long as he gets time for it. Every thing he says is very informative but some people only tuned in to hear AG tell how he hates Lee or something.



Well djwheat could try to moderate it a bit in order to level field at least to a certain degree.


I totally agree. And I also think that putting someone so well spoken as AG against Milkis was a bit of a miss.
Dead girls don't say no.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
July 22 2011 00:40 GMT
#5398
On July 22 2011 09:38 EchoZ wrote:
"why does the international scene matter"

That kicks the bucket..


In all honesty, the international scene can't handle buying Korean players at the moment. How many teams have running pro houses? How many international teams have the practice partners/teammates to make the players better?

You can't just buy top Koreans and act like they won't get eclipsed in six months by new Koreans who practice in a better infrastructure with better coaching, teammates and ladder server.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 22 2011 00:40 GMT
#5399
On July 22 2011 09:40 BroOd wrote:
lots of buzzwords here


haha i was noticing that lolol
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
July 22 2011 00:40 GMT
#5400
On July 22 2011 09:39 Yew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 09:37 thanhbao86 wrote:
You guys need to understand Asian cultures (Korean in this case) first before pulling out the no-contract crap. That does not work in Korea. Try to understand that please.

I think this is what Milkis is trying to say. In Korea, not many teams do this kind of thing while EG have done this many times before.

Any who's fault is that? They know by Rain, foU, and Oz that Korean players are subject to foreign interest.
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