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Kaedo
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom14 Posts
July 22 2011 00:40 GMT
#5401
On July 22 2011 09:36 meep wrote:
"It's not unethical, it's just the way we run the company"
-AG

This is basically the whole discussion in a quote.
PhyreHazard
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada298 Posts
July 22 2011 00:40 GMT
#5402
why does the international scene matter -Milkis

wtf, of course it matter. Western esport/player are just as relevant as koreans.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 22 2011 00:40 GMT
#5403
On July 22 2011 09:37 thanhbao86 wrote:
You guys need to understand Asian cultures (Korean in this case) first before pulling out the no-contract crap. That does not work in Korea. Try to understand that please.


It doesn't matter, Koreans now have to compete with Non-Korean. The Koreans are going to be in trouble because they're behind the business side of things.
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
July 22 2011 00:41 GMT
#5404
To sum up, EG just created Kespa2, with all the pros and cons associated to it
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
July 22 2011 00:41 GMT
#5405
On July 22 2011 09:39 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 09:38 EchoZ wrote:
"why does the international scene matter"

That kicks the bucket..

The Korean community needs to lose their hubris, seriously.

It's not cute anymore, it's not admirable, it's just arrogant and the cultural argument is getting old if that's what they really think. I hope it isn't.
Grimsong
Profile Joined August 2010
United States252 Posts
July 22 2011 00:41 GMT
#5406
On July 22 2011 09:40 PhyreHazard wrote:
why does the international scene matter -Milkis

wtf, of course it matter. Western esport/player are just as relevant as koreans.



This.

And you wonder why EG has Puma on the way.
cskalias.pbe
Profile Joined April 2010
United States293 Posts
July 22 2011 00:41 GMT
#5407
On July 22 2011 09:37 thanhbao86 wrote:
You guys need to understand Asian cultures (Korean in this case) first before pulling out the no-contract crap. That does not work in Korea. Try to understand that please.


Whatever, I'm Korean, born in Korea, and am psyched as all hell that AG and EG are moving to give SC2 players the money and glory I think they deserve.

Not only that PUMA is korean, he knows what the fuck is up. Why is everyone taking Coach Lee's side and not PUMAs?
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
July 22 2011 00:41 GMT
#5408
On July 22 2011 09:37 getSome[703] wrote:
LET HIM TALK AG

You run your company in a manner aimed to poach players who aren't contracted? That's what I got from AG's two minute ramble

I think he was saying that he runs his company in such a way that his players won't get poached when contracts are up, so he's playing the game when the Korean scene doesn't want to be a part of it. But his argument is also that the scene is international and players and teams are not constrained to a geographical area, so the Koreans are pretty much forced to play the game (contracting their players and looking at things from a business standpoint)

but that's just my interpretation
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
Twoinches
Profile Joined April 2010
United States131 Posts
July 22 2011 00:41 GMT
#5409
On July 22 2011 09:39 tuho12345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 09:33 Twoinches wrote:
All I have taken from this thread is this.

People Hate when other people get the CHANCE OF A LIFETIME.

this Kid may MAY have done ok even gone to code s after what 4-5 months. when this other company comes a long and says "hey we will pay you to travel all over the world and play in TONS of different tourneys, your young enjoy life and we will bankroll that". Outside of Korea this kid will live the fucking dream. if you were 19 and played with friends and a guy gave you the same deal but you had to leave your friends for a couple years, you would be a idiot for not taking that.

Poor Puma for having fun.

Nobody hates or anything. They just don't like this move at all. Just like you grow your best student and he'd be taken away on his first day outside the country. Feel like betrayal you know.

but if he was being taken away for a much BROADER education you would not be proud of him?
Paris hilton Is my Lord and Savior
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
July 22 2011 00:41 GMT
#5410
On July 22 2011 09:40 PhyreHazard wrote:
why does the international scene matter -Milkis

wtf, of course it matter. Western esport/player are just as relevant as koreans.


why does the international scene matter (in the context of what I'm talking about)? -Milkis
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
thedz
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States217 Posts
July 22 2011 00:41 GMT
#5411
On July 22 2011 09:37 thanhbao86 wrote:
You guys need to understand Asian cultures (Korean in this case) first before pulling out the no-contract crap. That does not work in Korea. Try to understand that please.


It's like you think Korean culture is solely about SC2. Look at contracts in BW, in Korean business, etc.
Yew
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States940 Posts
July 22 2011 00:41 GMT
#5412
On July 22 2011 09:40 seiferoth10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 09:39 Yew wrote:
On July 22 2011 09:37 thanhbao86 wrote:
You guys need to understand Asian cultures (Korean in this case) first before pulling out the no-contract crap. That does not work in Korea. Try to understand that please.

I think this is what Milkis is trying to say. In Korea, not many teams do this kind of thing while EG have done this many times before.

Any who's fault is that? They know by Rain, foU, and Oz that Korean players are subject to foreign interest.

I mean Korean teams don't "poach" players from other teams.
Darkong
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom418 Posts
July 22 2011 00:42 GMT
#5413
On July 22 2011 09:38 EchoZ wrote:
"why does the international scene matter"

That kicks the bucket..

Yeah, Milkis kinda shot himself in the foot big time with that comment.
Trolling the Battle.Net forums, the most fun you can have with your pants on.
Greatness
Profile Joined May 2011
United States450 Posts
July 22 2011 00:42 GMT
#5414
If Puma liked TSL's offer, he wouldn't have been interested in joining EG. 'Nuff said. TSL doesn't offer enough for him.
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
July 22 2011 00:42 GMT
#5415
I wish this would have been on SotG instead. Wheat and WoC is in bed with EG, that's no arena for a proper discussion on this matter.
YouinashouRi
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada76 Posts
July 22 2011 00:42 GMT
#5416
They spend "so much time on this" without ever speaking to his manager? Nice one aG,.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
July 22 2011 00:42 GMT
#5417
So, Puma is going to be leaving Korea?
Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
July 22 2011 00:42 GMT
#5418
On July 22 2011 09:40 PhyreHazard wrote:
why does the international scene matter -Milkis

wtf, of course it matter. Western esport/player are just as relevant as koreans.


What do you mean with relevant?
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
marvin.
Profile Joined August 2010
United States469 Posts
July 22 2011 00:42 GMT
#5419
On July 22 2011 09:41 Grimsong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 09:40 PhyreHazard wrote:
why does the international scene matter -Milkis

wtf, of course it matter. Western esport/player are just as relevant as koreans.



This.

And you wonder why EG has Puma on the way.



Everyone seems to quoting this, but I think milkis was interrupted by djwheat before he was even able to make his point. He wasn't really saying the international scene doesn't matter - that would be just ignorant. He was rather talking about the korean culture and trying to help Alex understand why the way they approached Puma created the uproar that it did.
InvalidID
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1050 Posts
July 22 2011 00:42 GMT
#5420
On July 22 2011 09:37 getSome[703] wrote:
LET HIM TALK AG

You run your company in a manner aimed to poach players who aren't contracted? That's what I got from AG's two minute ramble


That sounds like a well run company to me. Why would you not poach under-compensated talent if it is available and you have the need for it? It is just standard operations for most companies, and it benefits employees at the cost of employers who do not compensate their employees sufficiently.
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