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Grimsong
Profile Joined August 2010
United States252 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 00:46:34
July 22 2011 00:46 GMT
#5461
On July 22 2011 09:45 Phaded wrote:
Why does the international scene matter when an international team talks directly to a player in the Korean scene instead of talking to the Korean team management?

Answer: it doesn't


Who wasnt contracted therefore who's fault is that?

Korea poach any international contracted players lately?
Tegin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States840 Posts
July 22 2011 00:46 GMT
#5462
I see Puma as a free agent in the sports world. He wasn't in contract nor did he have ANY obligation to TSL. Not sure why this is a big deal. If TSL took care of there players (under contract or not), Puma would never have left.
Pain is weakness leaving the body.
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1405 Posts
July 22 2011 00:46 GMT
#5463
On July 22 2011 09:41 BroOd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 09:40 PhyreHazard wrote:
why does the international scene matter -Milkis

wtf, of course it matter. Western esport/player are just as relevant as koreans.


why does the international scene matter (in the context of what I'm talking about)? -Milkis


Because EG doesn't really give a crap about the Korean scene, their sponsors aren't interested in the Korean markets and it's not worth the upfront investments / time it would take to find new Korean sponsors.

Milikis wants everyone to follow the Korean style, AG wants to run his Sc2 team the way he runs all his other teams and doesn't really care about going through all the hoops to try to break into Korean market.
Phaded
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia579 Posts
July 22 2011 00:46 GMT
#5464
On July 22 2011 09:45 VillageBC wrote:
WTF Milki's, why should foreign teams tip toe around Korean culture. Maybe Korean teams should recognize the incoming wave of contract signings and protect themselves.

I don't think its exclusive to Korean culture to talk to team management before attempting to sign a player, irrespective of their contract status
I am down but I am far from over
Krikan
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway520 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 00:48:29
July 22 2011 00:46 GMT
#5465
Geeeeesh. He has to stop saying this is not a loaded question, when it's obviously a loaded question where he wants to get his opinion across. I think he's done it three times so far. >_<

Ahh! Love for Milkis for calling him out on it. And DjWheat is a bit obvious on his bias towards EG.
Naniwa on making the MLG finals: Uh, it's ok.
Twoinches
Profile Joined April 2010
United States131 Posts
July 22 2011 00:46 GMT
#5466
On July 22 2011 09:45 Phaded wrote:
Why does the international scene matter when an international team talks directly to a player in the Korean scene instead of talking to the Korean team management?

Answer: it doesn't
In a business sense no contract = no manager.
Paris hilton Is my Lord and Savior
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
July 22 2011 00:46 GMT
#5467
On July 22 2011 09:44 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 09:42 Darkong wrote:
On July 22 2011 09:38 EchoZ wrote:
"why does the international scene matter"

That kicks the bucket..

Yeah, Milkis kinda shot himself in the foot big time with that comment.


He said it in terms of the conversation. Gosh you guys are sounding like F level journalists by quoting this. No offense but he didn´t claim that the Foreign scene was unimportant as far as the whole SC2 scene is concerned.


I sound like an F level journalists simply because

- I am not one.
- English is not my first language, I might have interpret it in a wrong way, but i find he shouldn't have said that.
Dear Sixsmith...
Yew
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States940 Posts
July 22 2011 00:46 GMT
#5468
On July 22 2011 09:44 Greatness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 09:43 Yew wrote:
On July 22 2011 09:42 Greatness wrote:
If Puma liked TSL's offer, he wouldn't have been interested in joining EG. 'Nuff said. TSL doesn't offer enough for him.

Puma is just greedy lol, TSL doesn't offer as much money as EG apparently.

Greedy in what way? Would you take a 3% raise, or a 6% raise at your job? You mean not stupid, then sure, he's "greedy". He wants to be compensated for his gameplay.

Yeah, sure it's good for Puma in that regard. He won't get better as a player if he practices with EG though.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
July 22 2011 00:46 GMT
#5469
On July 22 2011 09:46 Whole wrote:
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On July 22 2011 09:44 Mohdoo wrote:
Hahahahahahahahaha, RIP Puma's career. Poor guy is going to get so frustrated after the first week of trying to train with EG.

he will get a pretty good TvZ =)


He'll have one good match up. What about TvT and TvP?
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
July 22 2011 00:46 GMT
#5470
On July 22 2011 09:45 Lipski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 09:41 BroOd wrote:
On July 22 2011 09:40 PhyreHazard wrote:
why does the international scene matter -Milkis

wtf, of course it matter. Western esport/player are just as relevant as koreans.


why does the international scene matter (in the context of what I'm talking about)? -Milkis


because this eg guy only know how international scene works. so he approached puma like he would any other non-korean player

Oh I understand, I just think people were misunderstanding the implication behind milkis' words.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
Takezou
Profile Joined October 2010
United States320 Posts
July 22 2011 00:46 GMT
#5471
On July 22 2011 09:46 dacthehork wrote:
AG attacking milkis.. wow


wow seriously... AG seems to like blaming everyone else.
jtbem
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1404 Posts
July 22 2011 00:47 GMT
#5472
AG get a grip
aka Sowelulol
sekritzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 00:48:35
July 22 2011 00:47 GMT
#5473
Rofl the funny thing is that Milkis DID ask EG for a statement. He asked scoots on twitter. I cant wait for milkis to let it at him?

edit: why does DJwheat continuously only cut Milkis....... I can understand AG cutting him to stop him but seriously. 2 people cutting 1 person is really annoying.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
July 22 2011 00:47 GMT
#5474
AG calling out milkis cuz he thinks his translation was biased. kinda true.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
July 22 2011 00:47 GMT
#5475
On July 22 2011 09:45 VillageBC wrote:
WTF Milki's, why should foreign teams tip toe around Korean culture. Maybe Korean teams should recognize the incoming wave of contract signings and protect themselves.


Because that is the way good business should be done?
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
July 22 2011 00:47 GMT
#5476
hahahahahahaha WHY AREN'T YOU A REPORTER MILKIS?
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
July 22 2011 00:47 GMT
#5477
Garfield shooting himself in the foot.

Blaming Milkis? Really?
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SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 22 2011 00:47 GMT
#5478
On July 22 2011 09:46 Phaded wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 09:45 VillageBC wrote:
WTF Milki's, why should foreign teams tip toe around Korean culture. Maybe Korean teams should recognize the incoming wave of contract signings and protect themselves.

I don't think its exclusive to Korean culture to talk to team management before attempting to sign a player, irrespective of their contract status


yes... YES IT IS

It's COMMON in the west to talk to free agents and not their teams.
Nuri
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand280 Posts
July 22 2011 00:47 GMT
#5479
LMFAO
The biggest risk in life is not taking any risks at all
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
July 22 2011 00:47 GMT
#5480
On July 22 2011 09:46 TheButtonmen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 09:41 BroOd wrote:
On July 22 2011 09:40 PhyreHazard wrote:
why does the international scene matter -Milkis

wtf, of course it matter. Western esport/player are just as relevant as koreans.


why does the international scene matter (in the context of what I'm talking about)? -Milkis


Because EG doesn't really give a crap about the Korean scene, their sponsors aren't interested in the Korean markets and it's not worth the upfront investments / time it would take to find new Korean sponsors.

Milikis wants everyone to follow the Korean style, AG wants to run his Sc2 team the way he runs all his other teams and doesn't really care about going through all the hoops to try to break into Korean market.


The way I understand it they had no problem jumping thru those hoops when dealing with 3 other teams and they saw NASL finals as a chance to recruit a few other players.
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