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richard_keats
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States54 Posts
April 24 2010 05:08 GMT
#81
Looking past the competitive scene, this is an enormous disappointment to SC2 players who have friends in other parts of the world. (Absolutely inconceivable, isn't it?) There are modern games who have come up with ways to handle global play very well--for example, like one previous poster pointed out, Heroes of Newerth--and I'm really saddened that I, personally, won't be able to play with my friends who are moving back to South Korea.
PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
April 24 2010 05:09 GMT
#82
On April 24 2010 14:05 Brad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2010 14:00 Newguy wrote:
My point was more directed to the competitive scene, but yeah, the worst thing is that you can't play with some of your friends, but it's nothing new. This whole region thing has been happening for the past few years, mainly from MMO's. It sucked for WoW.


This will hurt the competitive scene, even if whitera and tlo buy three copies, having to purchase three copies just to play competitively is going to hurt the development of the scene badly.


How will it hurt WhiteRa and TLO? I'm pretty sure the EU & US guys will get enough practice from there respected regions. You don't have to play guys from the US to get better, and vice versa.

They will train online and then play eachother at WCG, ESWC, ESL, MLG, Dreamhack, etc, etc or whatever companies pick up SC2 (Which i'm guessing will be all of them.).

It would be a barrier to players who want to get into the competitive scene.

Blizzard doesn't give a shit about this being a long-lasting "sport". They want to make their money off it, then move to the next game to sell you. There's no profit in it for them for this to last a long time, unlike WoW.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33702 Posts
April 24 2010 05:10 GMT
#83
it's unbelievably annoying and infuriating
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
IronWolf
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
South Africa315 Posts
April 24 2010 05:11 GMT
#84
Like the aussies, we will have lag no matter what. Sure, even if we only make up a fraction of the sales, if lag was so important to blizz then they would have implemented something better than we have now. We are going to have 400+ lag even if i am playing my bro who lives down the road? This forces guys like us to find alternative solutions else we won't have competitive play at all!

Where is the alternative to LAN that they spoke of. After reading the networking post by R1CH, I still don't see the alternative. Or did I miss it somewhere?

Blizz enlighten me!
StayFrosty
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada743 Posts
April 24 2010 05:14 GMT
#85
blizzard activision merger was the worst thing that ever happened to bliz. Instead of creating games to satisfy the community, they are driven by one thing and one thing only - quarterly sales.
mynameisbean
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia82 Posts
April 24 2010 05:15 GMT
#86
You know the funniest thing.

Everyone in this forum is still going to go out and buy the game.


So Blizzard have lost nothing of the income that comes from the mass majority of their customers. And they've doubled/tripled what they'll get from the top 1% competitive players who want to compete on international levels. (Or quadrupled/quintipled what they'll get from these players, based on expansion packs, as someone else posted above me).

Oh, and think about what happens if Battle.net becomes a non-free service. (I think they have the mechanics for this down, with the Russian payment-situation thing). So might this decision to segregate servers also again increase the monetary gain they get from the 1% hardcore customer base, if battle.net becomes a pay-for service?
You aint worth a Bean. - Poke.
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
April 24 2010 05:18 GMT
#87
stop QQing about something that cant be fixed.

there are some good posts here that explain the reasoning behind this, if you cant understand that reasoning then Im sorry i dont kno what to tell you.
StayFrosty
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada743 Posts
April 24 2010 05:19 GMT
#88
On April 24 2010 14:15 mynameisbean wrote:
You know the funniest thing.

Everyone in this forum is still going to go out and buy the game.


So Blizzard have lost nothing of the income that comes from the mass majority of their customers. And they've doubled/tripled what they'll get from the top 1% competitive players who want to compete on international levels. (Or quadrupled/quintipled what they'll get from these players, based on expansion packs, as someone else posted above me).

Oh, and think about what happens if Battle.net becomes a non-free service. (I think they have the mechanics for this down, with the Russian payment-situation thing). So might this decision to segregate servers also again increase the monetary gain they get from the 1% hardcore customer base, if battle.net becomes a pay-for service?


If blizzard does implement a p2p service, I would not be surprised if iccup clones etc get implemented in sc2 to cater to the competitive community.

As of a monthly fee. Fuck that.
Frozz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada61 Posts
April 24 2010 05:23 GMT
#89
I just want to play the darn game
But Blizzard is making it lame
No more Euro pals
And hot Asian gals
So now it won't be quite the same T_T
The above was a Limerick
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
April 24 2010 05:29 GMT
#90
On April 24 2010 13:18 enzym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2010 13:16 prOxi.swAMi wrote:
Look from the point of view of a clan leader. When you have players from asia, EU and US, what the fuck do you do?

Thanks Blizzard for causing a rift in people's well-knit bw families.

Cunts.

you make clans with people that you can actually play with and get together instead of covering a dozen timezones. that type of clan structure wasnt very effective to begin with.

Erm, blatantly untrue. I speak from 6 years of experience.
Oh no
ilnp
Profile Joined December 2002
Iceland1330 Posts
April 24 2010 05:32 GMT
#91
On April 24 2010 14:23 Frozz wrote:
I just want to play the darn game
But Blizzard is making it lame
No more Euro pals
And hot Asian gals
So now it won't be quite the same T_T


I thought your post was awesome
I was about to hit reply
Then i noticed your signature
You are a wonderful guy
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Windblade
Profile Joined July 2009
United States161 Posts
April 24 2010 05:35 GMT
#92
while truly annoying...i find it hard to believe that blizzard doesnt plan on letting us connect to any server down the road.

to give them the benefit of the doubt - we do not know anything about how they setup/created/programmed B.Net 2.0. Considering all factors, the things they mentioned may in fact be current problems with its structure - something they plan on fixing but something that will probably take time. Time will tell how this plays out, maybe the Pro-League will be able to play cross-server
ilnp
Profile Joined December 2002
Iceland1330 Posts
April 24 2010 05:37 GMT
#93
On April 24 2010 14:15 mynameisbean wrote:
You know the funniest thing.

Everyone in this forum is still going to go out and buy the game.


So Blizzard have lost nothing of the income that comes from the mass majority of their customers. And they've doubled/tripled what they'll get from the top 1% competitive players who want to compete on international levels. (Or quadrupled/quintipled what they'll get from these players, based on expansion packs, as someone else posted above me).

Oh, and think about what happens if Battle.net becomes a non-free service. (I think they have the mechanics for this down, with the Russian payment-situation thing). So might this decision to segregate servers also again increase the monetary gain they get from the 1% hardcore customer base, if battle.net becomes a pay-for service?


I complained like 8 years ago battle.net should become a pay for service. I would have gladly paid $10 a month for a well taken care of battle.net for BW, let alone what the market would dictate something like that should cost -- maybe $1?2$? Automated matchmaking which they designed for War3, anti-hack, a ladder system that supported the esports community... these things could have been awesome and would have definitely been worth shelling out a little money. Practically speaking, it's a lot to expect permanent, consistent expense on their part to support a one time payment for the game. It's a lot more reasonable to pay something to expect that level of service. If not, it isn't surprising to get what D2 and BW had -- functional but old useless technology
8===D~~
GreggSauce
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States566 Posts
April 24 2010 05:38 GMT
#94
seriously? 99% of the people here don't understand why this isn't possible?

the lag is tremendous right now going between regions, blizzard doesn't have the resources necessary to refresh their servers and build infrastructure to handle all of this and keep it relatively lag free and competitive

ESPECIALLY for a damn pay once game

get over it people
Must not sleep, must warn others
Irrelevant
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2364 Posts
April 24 2010 05:47 GMT
#95
I've played both on EU and ASIA and lag hasn't been an issue at all (I live in cali) so really can't understand what the big issue is. (Only time I get bad lag is vs some Aussies)
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
April 24 2010 06:08 GMT
#96
On April 24 2010 14:38 GreggSauce wrote:
seriously? 99% of the people here don't understand why this isn't possible?

the lag is tremendous right now going between regions, blizzard doesn't have the resources necessary to refresh their servers and build infrastructure to handle all of this and keep it relatively lag free and competitive

ESPECIALLY for a damn pay once game

get over it people


What about just making it the same way they made Warcraft 3? I'm not asking them to upkeep more servers, simply to allow people the option of connecting to one or the other. I don't see how its not possible if it were done in the past.
GoDannY
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany442 Posts
April 24 2010 06:19 GMT
#97
Anyone made a thread at blizzard's site about that? I guess a 500++ thread will get their attention.

However at the guys who visited: didn't they said in a previous interview around march that they will not implent a gateway service in the release version but in a later patch? That would make sense to me since the serverload will be insane and needs to be verified before upping a working structure (which should obviously have some backup as well lol).

Anyone knows more?
Team LifeStyle - it's more than a game
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
April 24 2010 06:21 GMT
#98
On April 24 2010 14:38 GreggSauce wrote:
seriously? 99% of the people here don't understand why this isn't possible?

the lag is tremendous right now going between regions, blizzard doesn't have the resources necessary to refresh their servers and build infrastructure to handle all of this and keep it relatively lag free and competitive

ESPECIALLY for a damn pay once game

get over it people


What? This isn't World of Warcraft.
I play with friends from asia (japan, korea) every day 2v2 and 1v1. Lagg has never been an issue...
Leoj
Profile Joined January 2010
United States396 Posts
April 24 2010 06:38 GMT
#99
Activision: Hey if we don't let people swap realms we can get progamers to buy three copies!
Yukidasu
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Australia125 Posts
April 24 2010 07:40 GMT
#100
If you actually care about this, a good thing to do is to send them an email or a letter. I personally think it will be a disaster for international communities (such as this site ...).
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