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lol this is just terrible...
Causes so much inconvenience for people with friends around the world. I currently live in Canada but have lots of friends back home in Bahrain who I may only see during the summer or Christmas. Getting either/or just makes me have to choose between them and my friends here in Canada. I hope Blizzard fixes this...
The fact that there is no LAN makes it even worse as I can't play with my friends even when we're in the same fucking room  + Show Spoiler +(I'm referring to the friends I can't play with over bnet)
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On April 24 2010 14:38 GreggSauce wrote:
seriously? 99% of the people here don't understand why this isn't possible?
the lag is tremendous right now going between regions, blizzard doesn't have the resources necessary to refresh their servers and build infrastructure to handle all of this and keep it relatively lag free and competitive
ESPECIALLY for a damn pay once game
get over it people
i can already play on europe fine(on wc3+sc2). theres no reason they cant have gateways you select before connecting to bnet,(like d2/wc3/sc1) other than trying to get more money
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I fully support segregated servers on the ladder just for latency issues but there is absolutely no reason for custom to be separate.
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On April 24 2010 13:01 Kennigit wrote:
Yup it's a total disaster. I don't understand how one of the core philosophies could be to support and develop esports and then in the same breath segregate and divide the community in 3 :\ . I really hope a lot more thought gets put into this decision, because having to find tricks and work arounds like iCCup/pgtour etc really should be a thing of the past. Does this mean i cant download maps/products from European/Asian Bnet either? Yikes.
Think of every professional sport ever, it's not like andy roddick gets the chance to regularly practice with anyone outside the US. Yet the most excitement is generally when the big meet ups happen and the best players from across the globe play for titles in grand slams. It will create SICK rivalry between the servers, he'll it alrdy has, and I love the drama XD.
I'm just playing devils advocate here. But I don't think this change is all negative.
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On April 24 2010 13:16 ibutoss wrote:
So what does this mean for countries like Australia and New Zealand? Will we be forced to play on the Asia servers, with non-english speaking players? Or will we be forced to play with 300+ latency vs Americans?
I didn't play iccup as much as I'd have liked to because of bad latency, if battle.net servers are the same why will I even bother with sc2? This is very bad news.
you'll be on the american server.... while all the americans are asleep
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On April 24 2010 22:32 Ftrunkz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2010 13:01 Kennigit wrote:
Yup it's a total disaster. I don't understand how one of the core philosophies could be to support and develop esports and then in the same breath segregate and divide the community in 3 :\ . I really hope a lot more thought gets put into this decision, because having to find tricks and work arounds like iCCup/pgtour etc really should be a thing of the past. Does this mean i cant download maps/products from European/Asian Bnet either? Yikes. Think of every professional sport ever, it's not like andy roddick gets the chance to regularly practice with anyone outside the US. Yet the most excitement is generally when the big meet ups happen and the best players from across the globe play for titles in grand slams. It will create SICK rivalry between the servers, he'll it alrdy has, and I love the drama XD. I'm just playing devils advocate here. But I don't think this change is all negative.
sorry but thats the dumbest analogy i've ever read. andy roddick doesn't play tennis on the internet
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This is so dumb. It blows my mind. I had no idea Blizzard could be so fucking stupid.
I'm just playing devils advocate here. But I don't think this change is all negative.
How is separating custom games not all negative? It's like saying that disabling the option to run Flash on a device is not all negative.
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Do we even know they are talking about the released product? Or they are just referring to the current beta?
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I think thats a pretty lame move and it may lead to players abandoning the new bnet and figure out another way to play the game together.
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I dont understand why they are enforcing segregation like this. It would make sense to lock europeans out of the official US ladder f.ex. because of latency concerns, but to keep unofficial tournaments from global participation makes no sense. That's a decision the players should be able to make.
So in short; I'd think the best solution would be to allow an account to log on to any bnet server, but only be able to join ladder games on their native realm, and only be able to join custom games on the other ones.
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On April 24 2010 22:51 furymonkey wrote:
Do we even know they are talking about the released product? Or they are just referring to the current beta?
Playing on different gateways: Blizzard is not planning on allowing players to play on different server upon release, so things will be the same as they are in beta right now.
from here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=121072
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Wops, missed that part. Cheers!
That is sad to hear But I do believe it will eventually be implemented, like replay and gateway features for starcraft.
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So much for esports
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We need a thread about this in the official suggestion forum
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Yeah, there's definitely a need for an iCCup arrangement for SC2 as well, and I don't care of it's illegal and against the TOS.
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There's always ways to get around stuff like this. It's just a little sad that blizzard doesn't seem to be working in the direction we'd hope for in this regard. I won't say too much just yet though, and most of you should calm down in my opinon.
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this is the only thing that really bothers me about SC2 right now. Why not just have a big warning sign that says "SWITCHING SERVERS MAY CAUSE MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF LAG" or something like that?
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I was the first one voted "No" mainly because on iCCup I experienced lag when playing Aussie, Chinese or south american players. I think the ladder with auto-matchmaking should be as lag-free as possible (a latency test in matchmaking stage would be nicer than isolation).
Although with ladders isolated, it really should be able to play custom maps / invites with other-continent-players, and it would be nice (if not entirely necessary) with an above platinum ladder where the top of each region battle the top of the world. A pro-league, world-league or whatever.
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On April 24 2010 23:23 zeox wrote:
this is the only thing that really bothers me about SC2 right now. Why not just have a big warning sign that says "SWITCHING SERVERS MAY CAUSE MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF LAG" or something like that?
That just can't be the real reason.
It'd pretty much senseless since lag should hurt the person who causes it (the actual host is always Battle.net by now) unless the drop window comes up, but I only have US acc at this time and only had it when I left some 3rd party download on accidentally. They should ban all high ping ppl too (I can get below 100ms delay to american servers, there are ISPs who don't do this fine even domestically, besides SC2 faster speed tickrate is 182ms).
There must be well planned marketing reasons behind this that Blizzard do not want to disclose at this time.
Anyways, gotta live with it.
I'm pretty sure I'm gonna buy 2 copies for the 2 servers and there'll be a lot of people doing that. So Blizzard is already getting a lot more cash due to this idea, though this surely is not why they introduced it.
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What sort of delay are people from the US getting to Euro server right now? I live in Oregon. I plan on simply buying 2 copies if they don't reverse this decision by then. Is it playable?
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