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Who will win EWC 2025?

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TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net132 Posts
July 14 2025 18:37 GMT
#1
Discussion thread for front page poll: "Who will win EWC 2025?"
starfarmer
Profile Joined October 2022
1 Post
Last Edited: 2025-07-14 18:53:43
July 14 2025 18:53 GMT
#2
we will get a protoss world champ and after that protoss will be nerfed into oblivion
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3426 Posts
July 14 2025 18:54 GMT
#3
Serral, Clem, herO, or Classic.
lokol4890
Profile Joined May 2023
114 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-14 19:56:22
July 14 2025 19:55 GMT
#4
Maru. Statistics don't lie. Lost gsl s1 but won dh, lost gsl 2 and now will win ewc
RogueTheGOAT
Profile Joined July 2025
166 Posts
July 14 2025 20:41 GMT
#5
Specifically naming someone in the play-in stage over the GOAT who is seeded into the group stage is definitely a choice.
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3447 Posts
July 14 2025 21:55 GMT
#6
It will be a Korean show, it feels like Classic or herO, but you gotta mention Maru who is the most consistent player, even these days.. But, god I hope it's Rogue.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-14 22:17:33
July 14 2025 22:09 GMT
#7
One of these players will win:
Serral, Clem, herO, Classic, Maru

Reynor tier:
Reynor

Can do some serious damage and make a deep run, but won't win:
Cure, SHIN, Rogue, Solar

Might have an okay run but won't pull any big upsets:
Showtime, Trigger, Astrea, ByuN, Zoun

Heavily outmatched, winning a single match after the play-in would be a huge success: Heromarine, Lambo, Cyan.

Before Clem's recent TvP losses I was feeling he had a good chance at a repeat, but it's wide open now among the top 5. I'll give the benefit of the doubt to Clem and say he's still the favorite to win, but not a huge one. As a Serral fan (and a general fan) I hope he's prepped some good ZvP builds so we don't have to watch too much tempest late game.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
TeamMamba
Profile Joined June 2025
135 Posts
July 14 2025 22:11 GMT
#8
On July 15 2025 04:55 lokol4890 wrote:
Maru. Statistics don't lie. Lost gsl s1 but won dh, lost gsl 2 and now will win ewc


Maru has no chance. He has proven he does not have the “it” factor at the world stage. Even when the road to the championship was given to him on a silver platter. He still managed to get stomped by TIME.

His road to the top 8 is probably the easiest.

I’m cool to have Serral, Classic , reynor, or dare I say a toss Clem (only if he plays toss for all matchup) to win it all
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
July 14 2025 22:22 GMT
#9
I think Classic has the best shot, protoss is super strong atm and he got good PvP so should be able to beat herO.
herO is not as proficient as Classic in PvZ nowadays so I don't see him beat Serral, so I don't see him as that good of a candidate
Serral is a favorite too, solid in every match-up albeit not as invincible in ZvP anymore, and might lose to Clem or another zerg
Maru has a decent shot if he gets a bit lucky bracket wise, if he can avoid Serral he has a good shot versus the other top dogs except maybe herO, and decent shot vs Classic as well
Clem is one of the favorites but dunno if his PvT is enough versus Maru? And he can lose to Classic or Serral

So I think we might have an interesting EWC with lots of candidates
WriterMaru
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33475 Posts
July 15 2025 00:13 GMT
#10
TL poll options are limited to 10, so just entered top 9 Aligulac + someone else opt ion
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4414 Posts
July 15 2025 00:56 GMT
#11
Probably Classic, Serral, or Clem but I think Maru and herO have very good shots if they avoid Serral. They can definitely beat anyone else.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3433 Posts
July 15 2025 02:45 GMT
#12
On July 15 2025 07:11 TeamMamba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2025 04:55 lokol4890 wrote:
Maru. Statistics don't lie. Lost gsl s1 but won dh, lost gsl 2 and now will win ewc


Maru has no chance. He has proven he does not have the “it” factor at the world stage. Even when the road to the championship was given to him on a silver platter. He still managed to get stomped by TIME.

His road to the top 8 is probably the easiest.

I’m cool to have Serral, Classic , reynor, or dare I say a toss Clem (only if he plays toss for all matchup) to win it all

I mean, he botched his G5L chance THREE TIMES (including the terrible loss to Rogue) before finally done it, and he just won a global offline tournament in Dallas, so to say he has no chance is a bit weird.
RogueTheGOAT
Profile Joined July 2025
166 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-15 02:56:50
July 15 2025 02:56 GMT
#13
On July 15 2025 06:55 ejozl wrote:
But, god I hope it's Rogue.

SC2 is best when Rogue is shamelessly abusing a broken build or scouted weakness to bludgeon a fan favorite into submission and hoist the trophy.
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-15 03:19:07
July 15 2025 03:18 GMT
#14
HOT TAKE: Serral is NOT a favorite. He showed weakness at Dallas. Now, Clem and Reynor are both in Korea and have been for some time. Who is Serral going to practice ZvT or ZvZ with? No offense but the others he can play with on EU are not on their level. If he was already looking shaky I don't see this helping him. I think Clem and Reynor over the past month, have been looking vulnerable as well. Some say it is because they are hiding builds and to that I have no comment. Maybe it is the case and that's why they've been losing, maybe it's something deeper. We can't know that. Though, I think Maru has to be considered a favorite. The last big lan that had all the players, he won. BGE didn't have all top players, and neither did GSL. They were hard tournaments yes but the roster wasn't as thorough as DreamHack Dallas.

Maru #1 fave.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
SHODAN
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1144 Posts
July 15 2025 03:29 GMT
#15
Maru has not revealed much of his play in recent months. he's done a good job of keeping his builds hidden for this event. I think he will be the most difficult terran to prepare against.

among all the terrans at this event, I think Maru is the least likely to get tilted by protoss

Maru is guaranteed to only play against 1 protoss player in the group stage, whereas Cure has to face at least 2 before making it to the playoffs
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4514 Posts
July 15 2025 04:49 GMT
#16
On July 15 2025 03:53 starfarmer wrote:
we will get a protoss world champ and after that protoss will be nerfed into oblivion

Don't threaten me with a good time
hi. big fan.
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1322 Posts
July 15 2025 06:23 GMT
#17
On July 15 2025 03:53 starfarmer wrote:
we will get a protoss world champ and after that protoss will be nerfed into oblivion

Zerg wins a World Championship? It's a normal thing to happen.

Terran wins a World Championship? It's a normal thing to happen.

Protoss wins a World Championship? Everyone loses their minds.

puking up frothing vitriolic sarcastic spittle
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-15 06:27:13
July 15 2025 06:26 GMT
#18
On July 15 2025 15:23 MJG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2025 03:53 starfarmer wrote:
we will get a protoss world champ and after that protoss will be nerfed into oblivion

Zerg wins a World Championship? It's a normal thing to happen.

Terran wins a World Championship? It's a normal thing to happen.

Protoss wins a World Championship? Everyone loses their minds.


you can blame the pro gamers who push for that. i always hear players in interviews saying protoss is op or busted so... yeah that narrative gets pushed and of course if they were to win a world championship people will call them patch toss. I don't agree, but that's the world we live in!
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1817 Posts
July 15 2025 10:09 GMT
#19
havent been this excited for a tournament in a long time. lots of players have a real shot at taking home the crown where as going into ewc last year clem just seemed unstoppable.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
jodljodl
Profile Joined October 2016
175 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-15 10:16:33
July 15 2025 10:16 GMT
#20
On July 15 2025 11:45 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2025 07:11 TeamMamba wrote:
On July 15 2025 04:55 lokol4890 wrote:
Maru. Statistics don't lie. Lost gsl s1 but won dh, lost gsl 2 and now will win ewc


Maru has no chance. He has proven he does not have the “it” factor at the world stage. Even when the road to the championship was given to him on a silver platter. He still managed to get stomped by TIME.

His road to the top 8 is probably the easiest.

I’m cool to have Serral, Classic , reynor, or dare I say a toss Clem (only if he plays toss for all matchup) to win it all

I mean, he botched his G5L chance THREE TIMES (including the terrible loss to Rogue) before finally done it, and he just won a global offline tournament in Dallas, so to say he has no chance is a bit weird.


Some very good points imo. Further, it's not like Maru was the only player that lost to Oliveira in Katowice. There was also herO, Reynor, Heromarine, Cure and Clem.


Some weeks ago I claimed Serral will win not dropping a map. Ofc not being totally serious. But also only semi-joking. I believe we will witness a pretty damn impressive run by Serral. As we already have so often.
Kim Doh Woo
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