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eNtitY~
Profile Joined January 2007
United States1293 Posts
April 24 2010 04:36 GMT
#61
So fucking gay... Are you kidding me?
http://www.starcraftdream.com
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15742 Posts
April 24 2010 04:41 GMT
#62
I definitely agree that it is strange that the only reason Blizzard gives for this decision is lag. People are already sharing accounts to compete in tournaments, its just a little messy. If people are already doing it, why can't they help make it a bit easier?
ibutoss
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Australia341 Posts
April 24 2010 04:42 GMT
#63
On April 24 2010 13:41 Mohdoo wrote:
I definitely agree that it is strange that the only reason Blizzard gives for this decision is lag. People are already sharing accounts to compete in tournaments, its just a little messy. If people are already doing it, why can't they help make it a bit easier?


Because selling 2 or 3 copies of sc2 to every player is more profitable than 1 copy.
Nada got Yooned
Yukidasu
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Australia125 Posts
April 24 2010 04:42 GMT
#64
This is the worst decision Blizzard has ever made I think. There's no real justification for this - take Australia for example, our lag is already as bad as most US players would get playing on other servers.

Blizzard needs to realize the importance of having a global community.
Lost in a groundless dream. You can't fly if there's nowhere to fall.
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-24 04:43:24
April 24 2010 04:43 GMT
#65
On April 24 2010 12:47 Mohdoo wrote:
I admit that so far I am very pleased with the current state of Battle.net2.0. It does an excellent job at fixing many of the problems that were present in both Warcraft 3 and Brood War. The match making system is solid. I believe that Blizzard has succeeded in creating a competitive atmosphere which almost entirely eliminates the need for LAN play.


I don't get what's so good about B.Net2.0.
A competitive atmosphere? We created it. They could have given us a blank interface with one "play" button in the middle of the screen and the result would have been the same. There is simply nothing outstanding about bnet 2.0 and it has none of the vibrant life bnet1.0 had in starcrafts early years.

It is a ghost interface with little shitty xbox live gimmicks like avatars and achievements for a bored and underachieving audience and there is wasted space all over. Yes the spectator interface is not bad and the matchmaking makes things easier. But the lack of chat rooms, watching replays online together, presenting personal statistics in a interesting manner (just look at iccup ffs), the total whatthefuckage that is called ladder and divisions and now the complete separation of the community by key do not impress me the least.

But hey. At least there is one poor smuck who has to draw medals and trophies all day for our glorious achievements...i swear one day you get an achievement just for opening the game package...
eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
April 24 2010 04:44 GMT
#66
lets pull out the poll, so blizzard can get pwned in the face and maybe see that they have to change this
How's the weather down there?
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-24 04:49:21
April 24 2010 04:45 GMT
#67
(Before it's recent downfall.) Counter Strike, arguably the biggest eSport game in the Western world, never needed cross continent interaction to be a successful eSport. Obviously it sucks that you can't practice with your friends, but it wouldn't be the end of SC2 as an eSport.

The big international events will invite players from all over the world anyway, online will become more meaningless as more international tournaments pop up.

The worst thing about this is you fact you can't play with some of your best friends, unless you buy both editions, which i'm sure the majority of players will do.
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
zomgzergrush
Profile Joined August 2008
United States923 Posts
April 24 2010 04:45 GMT
#68
On April 24 2010 13:07 Floophead_III wrote:
99% of casuals won't care, but the 1% that is TL should be outraged! How will I be able to face koreans when I'm up at 6 am in the morning because I drank too many Dews. UNACCEPTABLE!

US korean hours aren't bad in sc2...that's when I ran into day9



lost all of 2 points in my top10 plat....
Bronze skipping straight to Diamond in 40 games retail release. Bnet 2.0 ladder really takes it's sweet time to think about that league placement.
roemy
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany432 Posts
April 24 2010 04:46 GMT
#69
not even an option?! even if buried somewhere deep inside the win registry or w/e?

picardwhatisthisshit.jpg
rock is fine.. paper could need a buff, but scissors have to be nerfed
nofAcedAgent
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States952 Posts
April 24 2010 04:47 GMT
#70
Yeah its a bummer
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15742 Posts
April 24 2010 04:49 GMT
#71
I edited a poll into the OP.
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
April 24 2010 04:50 GMT
#72
Brad April 24 2010 13:45. Posts 53 PM Profile Quote
(Before it's recent downfall.) Counter Strike, arguably the biggest eSport game in the Western world, never needed cross continent interaction to be a successful eSport. Obviously it sucks that you can't practice with your friends, but it wouldn't be the end of SC2 as an eSport.

The big international events will invite players from all over the world anyway, online will become more meaningless as more international tournaments pop up.

The worst thing about this is you fact you can't play with some of your best friends, unless you buy both editions, which i'm sure the majority of players will do.


I dunno about you, but I'm 17. I don't have $100+ dollars to throw around for extra copies of a game...
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-24 04:54:48
April 24 2010 04:54 GMT
#73
On April 24 2010 13:50 Newguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
Brad April 24 2010 13:45. Posts 53 PM Profile Quote
(Before it's recent downfall.) Counter Strike, arguably the biggest eSport game in the Western world, never needed cross continent interaction to be a successful eSport. Obviously it sucks that you can't practice with your friends, but it wouldn't be the end of SC2 as an eSport.

The big international events will invite players from all over the world anyway, online will become more meaningless as more international tournaments pop up.

The worst thing about this is you fact you can't play with some of your best friends, unless you buy both editions, which i'm sure the majority of players will do.


I dunno about you, but I'm 17. I don't have $100+ dollars to throw around for extra copies of a game...


My point was more directed to the competitive scene, but yeah, the worst thing is that you can't play with some of your friends, but it's nothing new. This whole region thing has been happening for the past few years, mainly from MMO's. It sucked for WoW.
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
ilnp
Profile Joined December 2002
Iceland1330 Posts
April 24 2010 04:54 GMT
#74
to me there's no other way to describe it except being completely and utterly rude and disrespectful.

we can piss and moan about balance changes and how the people that make sc2 are not the people that make sc1.. but i mean, come on. seriously. what else besides this can demonstrate how completely ignorant and disrespectful they are of the community starcraft left behind?
8===D~~
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
April 24 2010 04:56 GMT
#75
It's atrocious. I don't know how they can even joke that they want to support eSports and then to segregate the three regions from each other. On top of that, USA eSports has YET to take off in RTS the way it has in euro/kor, and SC2 had a HUGE chance because SO many competitive gamers were looking forward to jumping in, due to the hype and from playing WoW and realizing Blizzard is great/etc.

I'm 100% certain Blizzard realizes this is dumb and is just saving that feature for an expansion to get some crowd cheers 2 Blizzcons from now -_-
www.justin.tv/veisc2 ~ 720p + commentary
PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
April 24 2010 04:59 GMT
#76
Only reason for this is they hope to get a few extra sales off of people buying 2-3 copies to play on other servers.


Its fucking bullshit
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
April 24 2010 05:00 GMT
#77
My point was more directed to the competitive scene, but yeah, the worst thing is that you can't play with some of your friends, but it's nothing new. This whole region thing has been happening for the past few years, mainly from MMO's. It sucked for WoW.


This will hurt the competitive scene, even if whitera and tlo buy three copies, having to purchase three copies just to play competitively is going to hurt the development of the scene badly.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
April 24 2010 05:01 GMT
#78
And I didn't think of it, but the other thing that totally blows is if you want to play late at night you won't be able to play people where they are at more normal hours =\
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-24 05:07:15
April 24 2010 05:05 GMT
#79
On April 24 2010 14:00 Newguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
My point was more directed to the competitive scene, but yeah, the worst thing is that you can't play with some of your friends, but it's nothing new. This whole region thing has been happening for the past few years, mainly from MMO's. It sucked for WoW.


This will hurt the competitive scene, even if whitera and tlo buy three copies, having to purchase three copies just to play competitively is going to hurt the development of the scene badly.


How will it hurt WhiteRa and TLO? I'm pretty sure the EU & US guys will get enough practice from there respected regions. You don't have to play guys from the US to get better, and vice versa.

They will train online and then play eachother at WCG, ESWC, ESL, MLG, Dreamhack, etc, etc or whatever companies pick up SC2 (Which i'm guessing will be all of them.).
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
April 24 2010 05:07 GMT
#80
On April 24 2010 14:00 Newguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
My point was more directed to the competitive scene, but yeah, the worst thing is that you can't play with some of your friends, but it's nothing new. This whole region thing has been happening for the past few years, mainly from MMO's. It sucked for WoW.


This will hurt the competitive scene, even if whitera and tlo buy three copies, having to purchase three copies just to play competitively is going to hurt the development of the scene badly.

Don't forget: 3 copies of the the original, then 3 copies of each expansion, so 9 total.

That puts you in the hole over $500 if you want to play with everybody. Fucking bullshit.
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