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hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
December 11 2013 02:24 GMT
#2261
On December 11 2013 11:20 Ace wrote:
whats wrong with this boxscore?

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?id=400489185


Field goals attempted for raptors and spurs is nearly equal. Toronto better bring back Gay, this can't be happening. They need atleast 100 FGA.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 11 2013 02:24 GMT
#2262
On December 11 2013 11:23 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i'm really confused what happened between last season and this season except for tyson chandler hurt that has made the knicks so bad.

Tyson chandler carried the knicks.
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
December 11 2013 02:28 GMT
#2263
Felton actually looked like a starting point guard last year, and JR was doing pretty well. Can't say the same thing right now.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
December 11 2013 02:29 GMT
#2264
On December 11 2013 11:24 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2013 11:23 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i'm really confused what happened between last season and this season except for tyson chandler hurt that has made the knicks so bad.

Tyson chandler carried the knicks.

And Jr Smith got paid, and remembered he was jr smith. And Shump started falling off, and they don't actually have a competent head coach, and they are extremely old, and their bench is weak.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-11 02:32:37
December 11 2013 02:29 GMT
#2265
On December 11 2013 11:24 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2013 11:23 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i'm really confused what happened between last season and this season except for tyson chandler hurt that has made the knicks so bad.

Tyson chandler carried the knicks.

Yep. My whole post about setting proper screens last page. There's surprisingly few players in the NBA that scree and roll properly. Chandler's contribution to the Knicks' offense went way above his usage %.

Also, guess I got my answer about Bosh vs West. Bosh still has a very hard time against Indiana's bigs. Too much of them and they're too strong.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
December 11 2013 02:32 GMT
#2266
On December 11 2013 11:24 hootsushi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2013 11:20 Ace wrote:
whats wrong with this boxscore?

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?id=400489185


Field goals attempted for raptors and spurs is nearly equal. Toronto better bring back Gay, this can't be happening. They need atleast 100 FGA.


Look at the positions listed and minutes played for Toronto. You think Casey gonna be there next year?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 11 2013 02:32 GMT
#2267
--- Nuked ---
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
December 11 2013 02:56 GMT
#2268
On December 11 2013 11:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Is it just me or is roy hibbert an unstoppable force every time they play the heat.

it helps that the heat have nobody big enough to stop this guy
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Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
December 11 2013 03:04 GMT
#2269
On December 11 2013 11:56 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2013 11:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Is it just me or is roy hibbert an unstoppable force every time they play the heat.

it helps that the heat have nobody big enough to stop this guy


ODEN

...


rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
December 11 2013 03:07 GMT
#2270
On December 11 2013 12:04 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2013 11:56 rabidch wrote:
On December 11 2013 11:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Is it just me or is roy hibbert an unstoppable force every time they play the heat.

it helps that the heat have nobody big enough to stop this guy


ODEN

...



with knees*
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
December 11 2013 03:11 GMT
#2271
SOMEBODY HELP PABLO
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 11 2013 03:14 GMT
#2272
Who the hell is Jeff Ayres
Freeeeeeedom
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 11 2013 03:17 GMT
#2273
brandon knight really knows how to kill an offense, also john henson is tooling on the bulls right now
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
December 11 2013 03:26 GMT
#2274
lol Brandon Knight now taking Jennings place as prime chucker on the Bucks

what a team
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
December 11 2013 03:41 GMT
#2275
Games over already?? Sooo early. Even for an East coast game. grr
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
December 11 2013 03:46 GMT
#2276
Holy shit, that bulls team. Rose out, Deng out, Noah out, Butler out, can it get any worse for the bulls?
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
December 11 2013 03:48 GMT
#2277
On December 11 2013 12:14 cLutZ wrote:
Who the hell is Jeff Ayres

Jeff Pendergraph
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
December 11 2013 03:57 GMT
#2278
On December 11 2013 12:46 hootsushi wrote:
Holy shit, that bulls team. Rose out, Deng out, Noah out, Butler out, can it get any worse for the bulls?

let's tanking!
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
December 11 2013 04:06 GMT
#2279
On December 11 2013 08:14 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2013 02:17 jmbthirteen wrote:
On December 10 2013 17:34 Doraemon wrote:
On December 10 2013 17:30 Jerubaal wrote:
On December 10 2013 17:25 AppleSauce123 wrote:
Spoelstra is the greatest coach in the league


Did you get a name change Aerisky?

I'm done with this echo chamber.


On December 09 2013 15:07 Jerubaal wrote:
I just shook my head at Grantland proclaiming Miami "the most highly evolved offense'.


you still haven't explained why they don't have the most highly evolved offense. all you did was go on a diatribe about how spol isn't great, he's unproven, he's so lucky he got 3 big stars.

Because its just not that special. All it is, is playing to your players strengths. The only reason its "evolved" at all is because how horrendous Miami's offense was early on, because the big 3 were just doing ISO all the time, rather than playing as a team.

There is nothing that makes the Heat's offense more evolved than the Triangle offense or Princeton offense. Its not even that the offense is highly evolved, its the players that evolved and learn how to play with each other. They have great ball movement. As they should with one of the best play creators of all time in LBJ. Chris Bosh hitting elbow jumpers, Wade cutting to the basket, and Chalmers camping at the three point line while LBJ directs the offense isn't special. Its just basketball.
This is not just basketball. If LBJ is the best play creator in the NBA right now, would you say Chris Paul is #2? Is the Clippers's off-ball movement even in the same realm as the Heat's? They score a lot of points, but it's running in transition like the Heat were in 2011, rather than executing in the half court (besides Crawford and Paul being amazing iso players.) Like I said, LBJ is actually initiating their offense less this year, so he's involved in the cuts like Wade is. The open looks are created through movements and screens, not a double team on an LBJ drive.

It's evolved because they leveraged their extraordinary talent to do things other teams can't. It includes the triangle, because they can run it through Lebron. They're also able to make cross-court passes more easily because of Lebron. So you're partially right, but plenty of other teams have had extraordinary talent and haven't been able to mold their offense around their players' strengths (ie. OKC.) Probably less than a third of the teams in the NBA run set plays competently from 1-5, and the Heat are #1 or #2. So it might not be "special" that players do what they're supposed to do, but in the context of other NBA teams it is.

If Lebron goes down for a stretch of time, I think the Heat's offense will still be very successful the same way the Spurs' is. I don't think that's true for Durant and the Thunder or Harden and the Rockets, even though all three offenses lead in PPP.

See I just don't consider this to be a highly evolved offense, but rather evolved offensive players. Don't get me wrong, the Heat are a fantastic offensive team. But going through that article and watching the Heat play, I don't see this remarkable offensive design. I see a few elite players that are fantastic at the game of basketball and role players who know their place.

Only 5ish teams really have a shot at winning the title this year, its not really fair to compare any of those teams to the rest of the NBA in pretty much any regard.

And this "highly evolved" offense was just held to 84 points against the best defense. Highly evolved is just a really dumb way of saying the Heat have a pretty damn good offense. Ball movement and screens aren't highly evolved, they are basketball. The Heat are just really good at basketball.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 11 2013 04:08 GMT
#2280
If the Bulls make the playoffs I just want them to play the Heat so Noah can do his yelling thing a lot. Otherwise, this season is lost for me emotionally.
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