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If I am right, that is a really dumb reason to have your initial read in the first place.
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On July 07 2015 15:07 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 15:01 Trfel wrote:On July 07 2015 14:55 ritoky wrote:@trfel: please respond to what HF posted here: On July 07 2015 13:58 ritoky wrote:On July 07 2015 12:30 Holyflare wrote:LS's filter is SCUMMY. Read it. I can link a dozen posts that raised my eyebrow. Whether you are town or mafia, your job is to build narratives. The question is which are the most convincing. I didn't think Trfel's was particularly convincing, but at least he is offering up a thread that we can then weight. This does not answer the point at all and is most concerning. I do not care if he builds a narrative on LS. I care that he earlier said LS is not scum after reading LS' filter. Nothing had happened since then. Trfel then returns and asks LS a question about Ritoky. Suddenly Trfel's read on LS changes to LS being mafia. Then he posts a case on LS and none of the things in the case on LS being mafia contain the questions about Ritoky. So why is his case a different version than his opinion in the thread? This is a good post. This post should be answered. Unfortunately for HF he would make this post as either alignment so he only gets half the credit he deserves for it. thanx. In the event that I'm wrong about LightningStrike, answering this question would be the most harmful thing I could possibly do for town. And I guess I'm not convinced enough about LightningStrike to do that. If it means I get lynched for it, so be it. How would it be detrimental to town? You said you read his filter and he was town, then there was people being idiots around my claim, then you said he was mafia; but everything you said made him mafia was stuff that you had already previously read in his filter. Is this an incorrect representation? Correct me if it is wrong. Aka, answer the post. I was scumreading LightningStrike.
Then, I changed my read on him to town.
Something about those questions changed the read back to scum, and the actual reasons that he was scum were the initial things I was scumreading him for.
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On July 07 2015 15:14 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 15:07 ritoky wrote:On July 07 2015 15:01 Trfel wrote:On July 07 2015 14:55 ritoky wrote:@trfel: please respond to what HF posted here: On July 07 2015 13:58 ritoky wrote:On July 07 2015 12:30 Holyflare wrote:LS's filter is SCUMMY. Read it. I can link a dozen posts that raised my eyebrow. Whether you are town or mafia, your job is to build narratives. The question is which are the most convincing. I didn't think Trfel's was particularly convincing, but at least he is offering up a thread that we can then weight. This does not answer the point at all and is most concerning. I do not care if he builds a narrative on LS. I care that he earlier said LS is not scum after reading LS' filter. Nothing had happened since then. Trfel then returns and asks LS a question about Ritoky. Suddenly Trfel's read on LS changes to LS being mafia. Then he posts a case on LS and none of the things in the case on LS being mafia contain the questions about Ritoky. So why is his case a different version than his opinion in the thread? This is a good post. This post should be answered. Unfortunately for HF he would make this post as either alignment so he only gets half the credit he deserves for it. thanx. In the event that I'm wrong about LightningStrike, answering this question would be the most harmful thing I could possibly do for town. And I guess I'm not convinced enough about LightningStrike to do that. If it means I get lynched for it, so be it. How would it be detrimental to town? You said you read his filter and he was town, then there was people being idiots around my claim, then you said he was mafia; but everything you said made him mafia was stuff that you had already previously read in his filter. Is this an incorrect representation? Correct me if it is wrong. Aka, answer the post. I was scumreading LightningStrike. Then, I changed my read on him to town. Something about those questions changed the read back to scum, and the actual reasons that he was scum were the initial things I was scumreading him for.
Okay nevermind, I didn't understand.
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Ritoky can you post my refutation to trfel's case so he can talk about it because it's from someone he's not ignoring for irrational reasons. Post it as your own words so it looks legit.
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On July 07 2015 15:18 Holyflare wrote:
Ritoky can you post my refutation to trfel's case so he can talk about it because it's from someone he's not ignoring for irrational reasons. Post it as your own words so it looks legit. I'll get to it later.
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Well he seems a lot like Oats. Constantly doing nothing. Promising to do stuff. Never following through.
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On July 06 2015 08:51 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 08:34 Holyflare wrote:On July 06 2015 07:39 marvellosity wrote:
oh hey dis guy too..... What do you think about Obi's shit vote? It leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but would he really try that as scum? Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 08:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Holyflare might be mafia for thinking that Marv is mafia.
My vote is serious now. Marv only has this one post. Marv isn't looking good and we know how much he loves rolling mafia. Marv looks worse than HF right now. hmmm
On July 06 2015 09:36 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 09:27 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 09:25 scott31337 wrote:On July 06 2015 09:03 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 08:51 scott31337 wrote:On July 06 2015 08:34 Holyflare wrote:On July 06 2015 07:39 marvellosity wrote:
oh hey dis guy too..... What do you think about Obi's shit vote? It leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but would he really try that as scum? On July 06 2015 08:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Holyflare might be mafia for thinking that Marv is mafia.
My vote is serious now. Marv only has this one post. Marv isn't looking good and we know how much he loves rolling mafia. Marv looks worse than HF right now. hmmm what? What are you unsure of? I didn't care for his vote, although he does explain it decently here - On July 06 2015 09:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 06 2015 08:51 scott31337 wrote:On July 06 2015 08:34 Holyflare wrote:On July 06 2015 07:39 marvellosity wrote:
oh hey dis guy too..... What do you think about Obi's shit vote? It leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but would he really try that as scum? On July 06 2015 08:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Holyflare might be mafia for thinking that Marv is mafia.
My vote is serious now. Marv only has this one post. Marv isn't looking good and we know how much he loves rolling mafia. Marv looks worse than HF right now. hmmm This seems like a major overreaction tbh. Why are you so pissy about my vote? Honestly marv doesn't really look like anything, but Hf calling him out when nothing has happened seems a bit out of the ordinary. I'd imagine town!Hf wouldn't even care about Marv at all considering what an easily-resolved player he is. And I'm not pissy - I just called it a shit vote because, well, it is.  On July 06 2015 09:16 KelsierSC wrote:
scptt fuck you ![[image loading]](http://oilersnation.com/uploads/Image/wrong.jpg) i don't remember you dont like hf but uou like ,marv? ??? Expand No, you misunderstood here. Marv usually does a bit more as town then his one post - he's probably waiting for his buddy Palmar - they love to interact - I'm not caring for Marv. HF has a slight townlean for now, I liked his first post (although it could have been pre-made, I had a mindmeld with it)
I don't really follow what this guy's opinion on marv was. In the first post it looks like he wants to incite suspicion and in the second he emphasizes he didn't really care about it.
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Vivax completely failing to read again. Someone with a gun, please shoot Vivax dead.
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Like that's at least the second time he's read something completely wrong in addition to taking things out of context. He's a quite decent lynch as well.
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Good Morning, catching up
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On July 07 2015 16:28 geript wrote:
Like that's at least the second time he's read something completely wrong in addition to taking things out of context. He's a quite decent lynch as well.
In fact I was reading in context and that post is written so badly Kelsier had to ask again as well (wanna lynch him too?), and I see no other version that makes sense.
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Why am I talking to this guy? It was obvious from the start he's mafia.
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[quote=Kelsier]
i don't remember
you dont like hf
but uou like ,marv?
???[/QUOTE]
[quote=Scott]No, you misunderstood here. Marv usually does a bit more as town then his one post - he's probably waiting for his buddy Palmar - they love to interact - I'm not caring for Marv. HF has a slight townlean for now, I liked his first post (although it could have been pre-made, I had a mindmeld with it)[/QUOTE]
Seems quite clear. Kelsier's all like, "LOL WUT??? U LIKE MARV'S BIG GAY DICK?" Scott's all like, "U RED DAT RONG BITCH. I DON'T LIKE MARV BUT HE MAY BE WAITING FOR PALMER."
I understand that english isn't your first language. But your comprehension is terrible. Somehow you thought Oats was the thread sentiment when I pushed him. Now you're trying to make a case where there's literally nothing there. You're completely divorced from any sort of actual reality. I'm just trying to figure out if you're a few nuts short of a fruitcake or if you're plain old mafia. Either way, you're a detriment.
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Kelsier wrote:
i don't remember
you dont like hf
but uou like ,marv?
???
Scott wrote:
No, you misunderstood here. Marv usually does a bit more as town then his one post - he's probably waiting for his buddy Palmar - they love to interact - I'm not caring for Marv. HF has a slight townlean for now, I liked his first post (although it could have been pre-made, I had a mindmeld with it)
Seems quite clear. Kelsier's all like, "LOL WUT??? U LIKE MARV'S BIG GAY DICK?" Scott's all like, "U RED DAT RONG BITCH. I DON'T LIKE MARV BUT HE MAY BE WAITING FOR PALMER."
I understand that english isn't your first language. But your comprehension is terrible. Somehow you thought Oats was the thread sentiment when I pushed him. Now you're trying to make a case where there's literally nothing there. You're completely divorced from any sort of actual reality. I'm just trying to figure out if you're a few nuts short of a fruitcake or if you're plain old mafia. Either way, you're a detriment.
fixed for prettiness
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I want to be clear. I think Vivax is a pretty terrible player. But this level of incompetence is really pretty stunning. Any vigi who doesn't shoot him is not clearly thinking through their shot.
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On July 07 2015 16:39 geript wrote:Show nested quote +Scott wrote:
No, you misunderstood here. Marv usually does a bit more as town then his one post - he's probably waiting for his buddy Palmar - they love to interact - I'm not caring for Marv. HF has a slight townlean for now, I liked his first post (although it could have been pre-made, I had a mindmeld with it) Seems quite clear. Kelsier's all like, "LOL WUT??? U LIKE MARV'S BIG GAY DICK?" Scott's all like, "U RED DAT RONG BITCH. I DON'T LIKE MARV BUT HE MAY BE WAITING FOR PALMER." I understand that english isn't your first language. But your comprehension is terrible. Somehow you thought Oats was the thread sentiment when I pushed him. Now you're trying to make a case where there's literally nothing there. You're completely divorced from any sort of actual reality. I'm just trying to figure out if you're a few nuts short of a fruitcake or if you're plain old mafia. Either way, you're a detriment. fixed for prettiness
Meanwhile, you left the point of posting this out of that equation:
Marv only has this one post. Marv isn't looking good and we know how much he loves rolling mafia. Marv looks worse than HF right now. hmmm
Tell me how it fits in with what he says afterwards, Sherlock.
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It's pretty clear. In the first he's talking about Marv lacking impetus to post/play as mafia. In the second he's saying maybe Marv is town wants to have fun with Palmer instead of other shit. But Scott is clear that he still doesn't like the low activity. They're conflicting thoughts along the same line. It's not Marv clearly 100% mafia then Marv clearly maybe 50% mafia. It's, "I don't like Marv's low activity and that makes me think he's mafia but maybe he just wants to be chill this game instead of 20p filters. This isn't rocket science.
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On July 07 2015 16:50 geript wrote:
It's pretty clear. In the first he's talking about Marv lacking impetus to post/play as mafia. In the second he's saying maybe Marv is town wants to have fun with Palmer instead of other shit. But Scott is clear that he still doesn't like the low activity. They're conflicting thoughts along the same line. It's not Marv clearly 100% mafia then Marv clearly maybe 50% mafia. It's, "I don't like Marv's low activity and that makes me think he's mafia but maybe he just wants to be chill this game instead of 20p filters. This isn't rocket science.
This is what you say in your odd confidence, not what he said. You also leave out the part from the second post where he said he didn't care about marv previously but the first post is formulated as if.
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On July 07 2015 11:35 Holyflare wrote:
did you read what i've been writing?
all of his start of the game is indicative of someone burnt out from playing mafia twice in a row, he's never played like this ever as town at the start of the game
all of his questions when he did start asking questions were circular and could do nothing with the response
his reads don't make sense and aren't ever elaborated on, he scum reads me etc as well as ls and only ever explained ls
he's trolling through the thread
he switched his stance on ls from not scum to scum based on him asking questions about ritoky but that never featured in his case on LS which means those questions were irrelevant to his stance change which means his original post on not scum reading LS any more was bs
just read my filter it's full of stuff I consider this to be the best single post expressing why people want to lynch me.
Meta
If you want to lynch me for meta, you ought to know what you're talking about, first.
+ Show Spoiler +- Student Mafia IV: Town Tracker Killed Night 1
+ Show Spoiler +First game of forum mafia ever, third game of mafia (any type) ever. I was really, really bad. I got townread early for making really terrible meta cases (that took several hours to make, despite being absolutely useless), and was killed Night 1 with the (failed) intention of generating WIFOM.
- TL Mafia LXIX: Carol of the Bells: Town Cop Killed Night 2
+ Show Spoiler +I didn't play the game at all Day 1. I was required to vote or be modkilled, so I voted for the leading wagon without having any clue what was happening so that my vote wouldn't affect anything. Through late Day 2, most people were okay with lynching me. Towards the end of Day 2, I was getting very worried about dying and was very desperate, and ended up posting a case on KelsierSC that wasn't bad (primarily motivated by desperation). Scum thought that I might be a power role, and I was basically confirmed town, so I was killed that night.
- Newbie Mini Mafia LX: Town Vanilla Killed Night 1
+ Show Spoiler +I was on a plane and missed a fair part of Day 1. I got night killed anyway because scum thought I was a threat, even though I hadn't really done anything yet.
- Student Mafia V: Mafia Goon Lynched Day 2
+ Show Spoiler +I played really badly. Rsoultin caught me at the very start of the game. I got cop checked Night 1 and lynched the next day. Not much to say.
- Linux Mini Mafia: Town Doctor Survived Night 1
+ Show Spoiler +We won the game Night 1 after a Day 1 scum lynch and a scum modkill. Not much to say. I was an active participant, though I didn't actually contribute very much actual helpful content to town.
- Newbie Mini Mafia LXI: Town Vanilla Endgamed Day 4
+ Show Spoiler +A very painful game, and not just because I threw the game in 3 player LYLO. I managed to make one player extremely upset. I poured all of my effort into the game, and ended up making some very bad reads and being too abrasive. This game showed me that I wasn't as good as I thought I was. It also showed me that it doesn't work just to devote my life to the game, and it taught me that I'm really, really bad when trying to lead town (thought that doesn't stop me from trying, sometimes  )
- Mini Mafia Down Under 2: Town Vigilante Endgamed Day 4
+ Show Spoiler +First, it's worth mentioning Mini Mafia Down Under (the first game). The game was aborted. I played really, really badly, and most everyone thought I was scum. I had a fair chance of being lynched Day 1, but the game was cut short.
I shot mafia Night 1, confirming myself as town. But throughout the game, I was extremely lazy and useless. My play this game was extremely bad, and I'm still ashamed of it. We lost pretty badly.
- TL Mafia LXX: Guardians of the Galaxy: Town Veteran Lynched Day 7
+ Show Spoiler +Yet another bad game for me.
I missed a lot of Day 1, and only ended up reading all of it by like Day 5 or something (IIRC). Many people were scumreading me, but I managed to pull off a really lucky night action with a special item to basically confirm me as town. I was fairly lazy and useless throughout the game.
- Aperture Mafia 4: Third Party Dungeon Master Endgamed Night 3
+ Show Spoiler +I didn't really play, didn't really read the thread, and died quickly.
The only notable thing this game is that in the Night 1 PMs, Holyflare posed as a science company and figured out that I wasn't town. That was really, really embarrassing.
- Newbie Student Mafia 8
So, I was making a list of all of the games I've played, and my descriptions of them. But it was just too many words, and taking too long. I left what I had written spoilered above, just in case.
Basically, there are several games I've played extremely lazily. I often have trouble getting motivated to play as town. Meanwhile, playing as scum isn't as hard for me. I immediately know who my team is, and I have a responsibility to them. I know that I have a responsibility to town, too, but it's harder for me to feel it when I don't know who town is.
I'm a very emotional player, read my coaching QT from Newbie Mafia LXI and you'll see that immediately. And I'm also capable of extreme laziness, often tied to me being emotional, often tied to procrastinating.
I haven't gotten "burned out" from playing as mafia, but I do get "burned out" from playing as town. Look at my coaching QT from Newbie Mafia LXI, I burned out after Night 1 (first time surviving for more than 72 hours). I almost asked for a replacement. On the contrary, I was mostly fine with activity and effort throughout the game. Read the things I said postgame, and tell me I was worn out from it.
All of my questions (ok fine, only most of them.. not quite all) had a very distinct purpose. I don't feel the need to share my reads every second, only when there are major changes. And I don't feel the need to respond with "Thank you for answering my question" every time someone answers my question. Sometimes, I ask a question with multiple possible answers in mind, some of which are useless and some are useful. Often, these questions result in nothing; sometimes, they are very beneficial. Many things I learned from my questions are best kept to myself.
Also, if you really think that my "trolling" is alignment indicative... Look at my scum games. I was serious the entire time. Then look at my town games. It's true that this game, I've been the least serious of all of my games, but that doesn't mean I'm scum. For example, look at Aperture. If you want to see what me not caring and not playing looks like, that's it. I was third party, and I made one or two posts with reads, and then just collapsed. If I were burnt out from being mafia, THAT'S what my play would look like.
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On July 07 2015 15:06 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 10:49 Holyflare wrote:On July 07 2015 09:41 Trfel wrote:LightningStrike- Responses to scumreads
+ Show Spoiler +On July 06 2015 07:32 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 07:28 geript wrote:On July 06 2015 07:26 LightningStrike wrote:On July 06 2015 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
##vote trfel
Super over explained afk entry excuse post You already got a vote on someone like he's scum it not going to be just his entrance it would be for other things as the game goes on... Scum #2 I've caught. I not what are smoking bro? Weed? Crack? When he gets scumread by geript, he just says he's not scum, and then says that something must be impeding geript's ability to read him. He responds to geript's scumread, but without providing any content. He doesn't actually ask geript why he had this scumread, doesn't think about geript's alignment at all, and seemingly assumes that geript is town. Furthermore, I'm not used to LightningStrike being this aggressive in his wording. On July 06 2015 08:36 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 08:35 Breshke wrote:
I also really like damdreds read on LS here. The fact that you didn't meta scott straight away makes it more likely you are your lazy scum self LS
It always feels good sheeping damdred. Choo Choo
##Vote Lightningstrike I not scum what are you and Damdred smoking? Cocaine? Weed? Alcohol? Jesus Christ you are bad Breshke. Again, he's really aggressive about the claim, and assumes that Breshke is town. There are more examples, they're all similar. Contrast this to other games, for example Himalayas: On June 17 2015 07:10 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 07:09 Damdred wrote:
So ok claiming town which means ls is scum Really because I actually rolled scum so therefore you must be scum! + Show Spoiler + I've never seen LightningStrike respond to scumreads as aggressively as he has in this game.
- Changes his play in response to pressure, early townread on Damdred
+ Show Spoiler +On July 06 2015 07:46 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 07:42 Damdred wrote:
If you dislike playing mafia with anyone play voice mafia with them you 100% love those people later.
Ls what do you make of Scott asking rs for her read on you so early? Any experiences with him? Pretty weird esp because rsoultin said last game she can't read me well but she still had a town lean on me there. I had played with scott before but only when he was scum O_o On July 06 2015 07:48 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 07:47 Damdred wrote:On July 06 2015 07:46 LightningStrike wrote:On July 06 2015 07:42 Damdred wrote:
If you dislike playing mafia with anyone play voice mafia with them you 100% love those people later.
Ls what do you make of Scott asking rs for her read on you so early? Any experiences with him? Pretty weird esp because rsoultin said last game she can't read me well but she still had a town lean on me there. I had played with scott before but only when he was scum O_o Oh? I think I've played with town Scott once. But ls any other thoughts about him? Not much to go on him yet. This is his first discussion about reading people in this game. Damdred responds like this: On July 06 2015 07:55 Damdred wrote:
Maybe I'm expecting to much but you obviously are leaning one way on Scott currently and you have said that you played multiple times with him.
Usually you would throw that meta and five me a preliminary call now you just lazily tell me you don't have enough. Even if it is super early you do it as town a lot but never as scum. And LightningStrike responded like this: Which doesn't actually do anything to help his case. "Hey LightningStrike, you're scum because you didn't do this." "Okay, I did it, am I cool now?" On July 06 2015 08:10 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 08:09 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 08:08 LightningStrike wrote:On July 06 2015 08:05 Damdred wrote:
@ rs maybe your new read should go in the trash the damdred train is going past the ls lynch this day. Na her read on me is correct maybe your LS reading machine is overheating from last game thus not working correctly? Also on the note about scott: As scum seems to be more obvious as the game progresses I only skimmed some of his filter from his last two town games and I still need more posts from him to determine his alignment by meta. do you have any town at this point? Damdred even if he's wrong on me I see Town Damdred this game. The townread on Damdred feels very out of place. This is the only read he's made to this point in the game. Also, note the wording, he says "if" instead of "though". LightningStrike ought to know that he is town... On July 06 2015 11:18 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 11:16 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 11:13 Damdred wrote:On July 06 2015 11:06 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 11:04 Damdred wrote:On July 06 2015 10:59 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 10:57 Damdred wrote:
I'm back.
Kel I don't get it, you really like my points on ls which I feel is really strong and getting stronger by the second.
But instead you judge me based on the structure of a town read and don't even mention the ls read that you liked? That's kind of strange how i like to read you and rsoul is how you read eachother, your town read on her is less developed than usual i cant explain that shit. so i liked the ls case, but ls....like i just fucking hate whenever he types so if i ignore all that shit and try to play outside of that id ont like you make sens I'm not sure I follow 100%. example if you don't like a town read that's ok, but you like another read is developed with support you want to discard because you don't like him anyway? So you don't like me. that doesn't make sense and you are discarding part of my game play for no real reason it feels uneven and unnecessary coming from you im basically not sure i believe your LS read anymore and anything connected to LS is always slightly aids so im looking at your rs read and it doesnt feel as good im not 100% i just dont like you in my gut i guess it dpeends what ls does What does it even mean that my RS read didn't feel as good? Not as condensed as assassins where I had to be vs different here and the last game I played in? So you are scum reading me (sorta) on style rather than content? And you don't think my Ks read is good anymore when he is 100% still going against meta? well..it is like this. scott apparently has few games played and LS did explain the read of like "oh you get him later" LS is...well like you never know wtf is happening. so i think a few pages its hard to say well fuck yeh he is lazy...it just doesnt feel good...fuck i cant explain that properly so i feel like your LS scum is dishonest and your rsoul is town feels like a cheap rsoul is town comparitively Damdred is wrong about my alignment and Damdred does normally rsouls alignment correctly but he wrong on my alignment this game but that wont make him scum if he is scum. And it continues. He doesn't take any effort to explain this Damdred read at all. And he's so aggressive towards others who scumread him. It feels like he just townread Damdred to appease him. When LightningStrike finally gives a reason for townreading Damdred (in his list post), it's because Damdred is putting in effort. Which wasn't the case when LightningStrike first gave his townread of Damdred.
- Meek tone when asking people for reads
+ Show Spoiler +One of LightningStrike's most commonly asked questions to people is "what are your reads, please?" On July 06 2015 08:41 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 08:41 ritoky wrote:
hi, i am town. i will be back when relevant information is being posted. bye. Drive By Posting seems common this game O_o Normally, I would expect LightningStrike to ask a question to ritoky, such as "When you return, please share your reads" or something like that. In the Himalayas game, he asked this question very early on. But here, he just comments. No question, no conclusion, just a comment. On July 06 2015 11:49 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Oats while you at it can you explain your reads on the people you quoted please? On July 06 2015 12:30 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 12:29 milo109 wrote:
Alright you people are boring. I'll be back in the morning. When you wake up care to give me your thoughts? On July 06 2015 22:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Good morning Tina any thoughts you would like to share? Compare this to Assassination Mafia: On May 11 2015 21:57 LightningStrike wrote:
@Marv: What are your current reads?
@Palmar: Thoughts so far in the thread? On May 14 2015 06:13 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2015 05:57 Damdred wrote:
Sorry been afk had a hell of a day. Should cat h up and be productive shortly When you are caught up can I have your reads please? On May 14 2015 22:47 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2015 22:46 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 13 2015 09:00 Hapahauli wrote:Final Day 1 Vote Count: Vivax (8) - BlazingHand, Marvellosity, Xatalos, Half The Sky, KelsierSC, TalkingDead, Justanothertownie, Oatsmaster, Xatalos (2) - Vivax, LightningStrike Rsoultin (1) - Onegu Palmar (1) - RebirthOfLegend Sandroba (2) - Palmar, Batsnacks BlazingHand (7) - rsoultin, Sandroba, Yamato77, ObiWanShinobi, Damdred, Trfel, GlowingBear, Just for informational purposes. Hello VE thoughts so far on everyone? There's a very clear difference in tone between these games. On June 17 2015 08:04 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:02 Damdred wrote:
Nydus and ls are my first hard town reads of the game.
Kel is a town lean.
I'm town, this is a good start Any thoughts on other people atm? I would like to know what you thinking that's all. Here's a counter-example from Himalayas. However, I haven't seen LightningStrike play like this as town before, and it still feels like his tone is more meek in this game than his other town games (even the Himalays quote). Furthermore, he's being more aggressive towards people who scumread him this game than in other games. Why is he more aggressive in response to scumreads, but more defensive when asking people for reads? It doesn't make sense.
There is one more reason, possibly the strongest reason. But I need to see what people think about this before I could consider sharing it. And no, I'm not going to say what it is at this time, so don't ask. On July 06 2015 12:13 Holyflare wrote:On July 06 2015 12:09 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 12:08 Holyflare wrote:
ah ye olde crack/weed/alcohol meta read lol apparently i'm not the first to think of it. it any good? it only just clicked for me last game it's pretty basic but works for him being town from my exp, i have another stupid meta read that i'm waiting on for him too 1st point is a town read like we've said and you should have seen if you were reading the thread 2nd point is just silly because he does that regularly, you can just look at any game and see he plays reactionary to appease people 3rd point you literally compare 2 quotes that are exactly the same and say they are different When you wake up care to give me your thoughts?
When you are caught up can I have your reads please?
First point. Okay, I missed it. Could you please point it out to me? To me, the fact that he responds exactly the same way every time (well okay, every time except for one) is extremely scummy and feels fake.
Second point. It's primarily about the early townread on Damdred. However, the fact that he actively changes his play in response to what people scumread him for shows that he accepts that he did scummy things, but he still accuses everyone who scumreads him of doing drugs?
And there is a very notable difference. The content is unchanged, it's the tone. "Please give me your thoughts" and "Can I please have your reads" are very different. The first is like a request, and while he's being polite, he isn't at all doubting that there will be an answer. "Can I please have your reads" is still polite, but considers the possibility that this will be refused. It feels a lot less confident.
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