EPTbtw I'm retroactively adding a disclaimer: I'm being super candid with all my reads this game and trying not to care too much about being wrong. So don't think I have some magical reads on the people I'm throwing out. I'm trying to force myself to be more okay with being wrong. (notice how being wrong one game after a very successful streak of games caused me to just drop off the face of mafia for like 2 months). I care way too much about being wrong.
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Palmar
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btw I'm retroactively adding a disclaimer: I'm being super candid with all my reads this game and trying not to care too much about being wrong. So don't think I have some magical reads on the people I'm throwing out. I'm trying to force myself to be more okay with being wrong. (notice how being wrong one game after a very successful streak of games caused me to just drop off the face of mafia for like 2 months). I care way too much about being wrong. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On July 07 2015 05:08 KelsierSC wrote: ritoky was part of the LS wtf brigade when this happened in himilayas so i don't see why he does this at all his excuse about lynch pressure seems incorrect, he would have needed about 9 people to all vote on him. *grumps*. why did you have to find this, i could have just stopped thinking about ritoky entirely. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On July 07 2015 00:16 geript wrote: First off, that's one word dumbass. Second the word investigator means nothing to me. It shouldn't to anyone. It's fucking stupid. Roles are listed in the op. On July 07 2015 00:22 geript wrote: I think he's trying to say he scumslipped and was just following what HF did early not realizing there are two investigators. Also scum slip . | ||
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Half the Sky
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On July 07 2015 17:02 KelsierSC wrote: last game I played with lightning strike he was town, he did 1000 scummy things in the first day but despite this he had the majority of the game calling him town and saying things like "it's just LS" this game he actually feels better to me like yeh he made a few weird reads but he seems pretty relaxed and again he is making a lot of posts. so either LS got better at mafia overnight and is better at looking townie when he is mafia, which if i recall isn't the consensus, apparently he is easy to catch as mafia. or he is town and we have people trying to push a lynch on him. I'm not liking damdred at all at this point as a result. Since you brought it up, Vivax raised a point earlier that he thought Damdred questioning of LS was bait worthy/loaded. I quoted several of the questions and Damdreds conclusions and found nothing wrong feeling the questions were straightforward. I'm on mobile atm but you should be able to find them in my filter. If you had an opinion on that exchange that might be the place to start. I'm town reading Damdred atm but he has tricked me before. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Is he usually a non-entity? how about milo? | ||
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marvellosity
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On July 07 2015 07:39 Half the Sky wrote: BM doesn't really play as mafia right? Or maybe I could be wrong on that, maybe I need to re-read WC3. That game was a blur despite my cohosting it other than that it was ill tempered all around and scumteam didn't play well. Independent of meta, he is sheeping marv, could be a faulty vote. The wanderer claim could be an effort to get people to disregard him but I am concerned seeing not really the town play to back that up. BM, you have any thoughts on his claim? Or ritoky at all? Or anyone else for that matter? I did think about this when I saw a BM post a page or two before this post. And I wondered whether a tracker should go ahead and track BM. I also wondered if BM might just claim it as mafia hoping there isn't a tracker. BM doesn't mind the ballsy plays. I didn't really come to a conclusion about what to do, so I didn't post. Except now i'm posting to waffle on about it now because this post reminded me. | ||
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Half the Sky
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On July 07 2015 19:08 Oatsmaster wrote: Hts, if ls did objectively scummy things, why aren't you voting for him? Prior to my going to bed I thought Milo was far worse. I was pretty clear why I didn't like him. It sounds like he's posted since so will read closely again. The 3 quotes I was referring to was where he responded to Trfel about the ritoky DT claim. That was around the time I know Damdred and I were asking Trfel what he thought on ritoky. | ||
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marvellosity
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On July 07 2015 08:11 geript wrote: I'd also point out that very few people are in any way interested in lynching Oats. That very rarely happens when he's town. true | ||
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Half the Sky
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On July 07 2015 19:10 marvellosity wrote: Anyone know scott here? Is he usually a non-entity? how about milo? Scott has sometimes afked in his games as both alignments. Milo only one game (HG ch1) and his posting is low volume in that game. My scum read wasn't on volume though. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On July 07 2015 19:17 Half the Sky wrote: Scott has sometimes afked in his games as both alignments. Milo only one game (HG ch1) and his posting is low volume in that game. My scum read wasn't on volume though. i can't remember your opinion of him here, what is it? (milo) | ||
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marvellosity
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On July 07 2015 08:39 Holyflare wrote: what kind of mafia makes a list hunting blue's in the thread instead of in his mafia qt a ballsy one with the name Bluehunter? | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On July 07 2015 19:02 Half the Sky wrote: I thought it was good when I first saw his post too. But HF is really good at taking things out of context if/when he's scum. Even if he's town the post is flawed because LS' filter showed some reasonable basis for the change. The easiest way to cross check that is to look at LightningStrike's filter against the time stamps provided. It is a little annoying to do because the time stamps are in Korean time but once I did I found three quotes that I objectively found scummy in his filter before Trfel even explained it. (You hit the quote button and you'll find time stamp quoted in KST.) Finished reading. I don't like HF. The scum lean I explained already, plus what HtS says (not sheeping it, but if we lynch HF and he flips scum, HtS is basically confirmed town for me for the quoted post). In addition to those things, he was responsible for like 1 million posts that were just stupid fight posts. I don't like that, it's artificially lengthens the thread, makes his filter hard to read and derails town efforts. I'm fine with lynching HF. Thing is, nothing really happened that would make me not vote clarity_nl, my points against him still stand. At this point, there's not too much on him so I'll let go of him but keep him in mind. ##vote Holyflare HF, I'd like to ask some things. a) Do you promise to stop shitfighting? b) Who are your top scum reads? c) What do you think about Bluehunter? | ||
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marvellosity
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marvellosity
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On July 07 2015 09:53 ruXxar wrote: @Trfel Is something wrong with you? Did something traumatic happen in your life? You played like a fucking god in our newbie game. What changed? ahahahahahahahahaha. I like you. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On July 07 2015 19:15 Half the Sky wrote: Prior to my going to bed I thought Milo was far worse. I was pretty clear why I didn't like him. It sounds like he's posted since so will read closely again. The 3 quotes I was referring to was where he responded to Trfel about the ritoky DT claim. That was around the time I know Damdred and I were asking Trfel what he thought on ritoky. Can you post some of the objectively scummy things that milo posted? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On July 07 2015 10:17 geript wrote: Basically it boils down to this: 1. He's playing differently than he does as town. 2. He's responding differently than he does as town. Yes. He randomly calls people scum for bad reasons; but that's not alignment indicative. Rather look at the scope of things. There's no overarching thought process behind it. Not even a bad one. As town, there is a series of thoughts behind who he calls scum and why. It will bend it's way back and forth between what he says. Rather, there's no thought behind anything whatsoever. It's just mafia this person. That's BS. There's no interconnectivity between his reads which you see when he's town. Second, he doesn't snap back at people like he did at me as town. Like he'll bring it with more of a push or a thought as to why I'm scum and push me OR he'll make a push to try and figure out what he actually thinks about things. In short, he's posting how he usually does. But it lacks the real impulsivity his town play has and lacks the theme his townplay has. better! I like this geript. Why didn't you just do this at the start?! | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On July 07 2015 19:24 marvellosity wrote: geript also made some sensible posts since i've been reading. it makes me more inclined to believe he is town and makes me more inclined to think about his mafiaread on Oats. You have succumbed to the madness too? How are geripts posts sensible at all, and even if so, what makes him correct about me? | ||
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marvellosity
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On July 07 2015 19:33 Oatsmaster wrote: You have succumbed to the madness too? How are geripts posts sensible at all, and even if so, what makes him correct about me? he made some posts explaining a couple of townreads in a non-routine way. Also I have no idea if he's correct about you because i've not read his filter to crosscheck and think about what he said. Rather that at least he makes an argument that sounds like it makes sense. | ||
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