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Do we even care about balance?

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ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1738 Posts
1 hour ago
#1
Wait. WAIT! I know what you're thinking, but look, I'm a Protoss main player too. I love seeing Protoss heroes go deep in tournaments. I was gutted when BeSt fell at the absolute final hurdle. I hate it when another hydra bust knocks out one of my favourite players, and yes I do think that doing so takes relatively less skill to do than it does to deflect.

I get all that, I really do. But nonetheless, I see the amount that people go on about balance this, balance that and I find myself thinking - who cares? Does it matter even a bit if one race is less likely to win than the others, as long as we still get exciting games and as long as they're still in with a decent shot (which truly I think Protoss players are)? A perfectly balanced game is one concept of what makes for an enjoyable tournament but honestly, it seems to me one of the less important dimensions as long as games and storylines are engaging.

Come on, who else thinks that actually it's all a bit of a storm in a teacup? It just doesn't seem to me that it matters very much to what makes Broodwar so great, in fact barely at all.
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Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland622 Posts
1 hour ago
#2
I make a living out of it, so naturally, I care deeply!
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines1026 Posts
1 hour ago
#3
there are maps where Z destroys P and maps where P destroys Z

i think ASL22 showed that Z isn't the problem, soulkey is the problem... bro won 71% of the past 7 tournies... tourny winrate as high as FLaSh's TvX winrates

yeah the next best player is probably soma, but IMO we're just having a zerg equivalent of the era when boxer/nada/oov were reigning as bonjwas
"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
golikasa
Profile Joined September 2026
10 Posts
59 minutes ago
#4
"Not giving a shit" is not exactly a way too show your passion for something
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7201 Posts
55 minutes ago
#5
On October 20 2026 17:45 Bonyth wrote:
I make a living out of it, so naturally, I care deeply!

Im curious how zerg winning 6 ASL has affected your earnings and just the struggle of playing vs zerg overall ? xD
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8192 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-10-20 09:20:53
46 minutes ago
#6
Good thought experiment.

I don't care about a true 33/33/33 balance. The game does not need to be "exactly" balanced. However, it is frustrating to see Protoss players get contained on 2 bases and starved out over and over and over again. It feels like 2 bases is barely enough resources for Protoss to get a 3rd... and right as protoss gets a 3rd (IF they can get it at all) their main runs out.... so protoss is often on 2 base eco until they... get a 4th? I dunno. It just feels like the PvZ matchup is stale...

EDIT: And what I mean by stale is... in TvP very rarely we see strategies like 1 factory hidden 3rd base, or bio/tank.... or in ZvT there's 2 hatch lurker, or TvZ 2 port wraith... these kinds of "not viable but viable" builds add excitement to the matchup. But PvZ it seems like the only variable is "one stargate or 2 stargates"... there's no real surprise curveball builds that are viable. I am saying this purely as a spectator... I don't play Z or P well (or T well but... I do play T)

Yes there's occasional 2 gate builds or nexus/gate/core late cannon greedy types of things... but it doesn't feel like Protoss has a wealth of options to deal with Zerg and it is frustrating as a viewer. I feel like the other matchups have a lot of viable paths to choose from.

EDIT 2: And what sucks about that is: PvZ/ZvP army clashes are super fun to watch. There's nothing like an even game between zealot/archon/HT/dragoon/reaver vs ultra/crackling/hydra/defiler... very mobile and frantic. Unfortunately 93% of the time we just watch Protoss get starved out on 2 bases...
Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland622 Posts
12 minutes ago
#7
On October 20 2026 17:50 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2026 17:45 Bonyth wrote:
I make a living out of it, so naturally, I care deeply!

Im curious how zerg winning 6 ASL has affected your earnings and just the struggle of playing vs zerg overall ? xD

zerg winning 6 ASL = imbalanced state of the game
imbalanced state of the game = i got eliminated in at least 1 BSL prematurely because of it; all simple.
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