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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 07 2015 08:02 GMT
#1841
last game I played with lightning strike he was town, he did 1000 scummy things in the first day but despite this he had the majority of the game calling him town and saying things like "it's just LS"

this game he actually feels better to me like yeh he made a few weird reads but he seems pretty relaxed and again he is making a lot of posts.

so either LS got better at mafia overnight and is better at looking townie when he is mafia, which if i recall isn't the consensus, apparently he is easy to catch as mafia.
or he is town and we have people trying to push a lynch on him.

I'm not liking damdred at all at this point as a result.
Zerg for Life
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 07 2015 08:02 GMT
#1842
I lied, I'm too sleepy. Not getting to my Holyflare read tonight.

I'll do my best to share it tomorrow. Sorry.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 07 2015 08:13 GMT
#1843
I just feel genuinely sorry that you guys are going to lynch me, because I haven't been playing my best. You guys deserve better.

I know it sounds really shallow, but I honestly feel pretty awful about this.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 07 2015 08:38 GMT
#1844
On July 07 2015 16:54 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 16:50 geript wrote:
It's pretty clear. In the first he's talking about Marv lacking impetus to post/play as mafia. In the second he's saying maybe Marv is town wants to have fun with Palmer instead of other shit. But Scott is clear that he still doesn't like the low activity. They're conflicting thoughts along the same line. It's not Marv clearly 100% mafia then Marv clearly maybe 50% mafia. It's, "I don't like Marv's low activity and that makes me think he's mafia but maybe he just wants to be chill this game instead of 20p filters. This isn't rocket science.


This is what you say in your odd confidence, not what he said. You also leave out the part from the second post where he said he didn't care about marv previously but the first post is formulated as if.

You mean where he says, "I'm not caring for Marv"? Because that could mean that he can't care (for Marv) in Marv's place. Or it could mean the usual thing, you know that he doesn't care for Marv. Like how I don't care for running. Or like how I don't care for cauliflower. You see this is the bullshit. There's no about in that statement. It's not me in my confidence anything. It's basic fucking reading comprehension. He's isn't "not caring about Marv". He is "not caring for Marv." So keep up with your bullshit so you get shot.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 07 2015 08:41 GMT
#1845
If there's not a ton of votes on either Vivax or Oats when I get back then I'm going to raise hell. Because both of them need to die. I think they need to die more than Trfel too.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 07 2015 09:00 GMT
#1846
On July 07 2015 08:40 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 08:39 Holyflare wrote:
what kind of mafia makes a list hunting blue's in the thread instead of in his mafia qt


this is also a good point


no it's not. note: thus far I only caught up to page 76 which is where I quoted that post from.

I hunted blues in my second game (trying to find masons). I did that as town and I went down the full newbie road. Bluehunter is saying nothing all game long. Then he comes up with that huge post, not being very solid, not following up on anything, but, well, going for blue roles. He's a smurf who called himself bluehunter. I don't buy the "he might be a newb" thing at all, no way, no. Instead, my tinfoilhat senses tell me that he throws that out, wanting people to exactly think what HF just said. like, "you wouldn't do that as mafia". Erm, of course you would. That's the same thought that is behind bussing a teammate. Do something that seemingly does not make sense for your alignment, wait for some naive town to point it out (or a teammate to point it out if no town member does it) and boom, there you go.

I already didn't like this:

On July 06 2015 07:19 Holyflare wrote:
"sweet i got investigator!"
*checks op*
*oh.... "


Someone (don't remember who it was) said that this is a very natural thought. Scenario: you read your role pm, see "oh cool, I'm a blue - damn, I'm just VT". And yes, a similar thought came to my mind - but that happened when I read the OP before the game started. I assume that HF did the very same. We find this pattern of seemingly naive and honest posts in Bluehunter's as well as in Holyflare's playstyle in this game.

boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 07 2015 09:02 GMT
#1847
so tl;dr

I don't buy HF's naive claim and I don't think that "making a public list of blues" is not scum indicating.
Tinfoil senses say that both players share the same pattern in terms of such seemingly naive posts, I can see both being scum.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 07 2015 09:09 GMT
#1848
On July 07 2015 08:55 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 08:51 Half the Sky wrote:
Going to check the timestamps to see where it came from for myself, although Trfel really needs to explain himself at this point, what changed his read?
Sorry, it's not something I'm going to explain.

And there is much more to my LightningStrike scumread than his latest few posts.


Yeah what

##unvote ##vote Trfel
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 07 2015 09:09 GMT
#1849
Also I might refrain from my HF scum lean, the read change from Trfel that he observed was really good. Still need to catch up.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 07 2015 09:11 GMT
#1850
Narf, okay. Ignore my posts and my vote, gonna ##unvote until I caught up to the thread. I really need to read the full picture before making assumptions. Sorry for the confusion.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 07 2015 09:24 GMT
#1851
Breshke made a case on someone and I kinda was okay with it.

Morning btw.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 07 2015 09:38 GMT
#1852
hey Plam. I'm either 28 or 38 pages behind. hurray!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 07 2015 09:41 GMT
#1853
On July 07 2015 18:38 marvellosity wrote:
hey Plam. I'm either 28 or 38 pages behind. hurray!

That's ok, I'm like 93 pages behind.

I'm not even pretending to be trying to read everything.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 07 2015 09:44 GMT
#1854
I'll read it all. Glutton for punishment.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 07 2015 09:48 GMT
#1855
It was 38. How sad.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 07 2015 09:51 GMT
#1856
On July 07 2015 15:12 rsoultin wrote:
nh

yeah going to bed

the people i was talking to apparently...don't care to talk -_- and i can't wait up for truffle

i still find milo's play pretty weird...i'd prefer him over an oats' lynch but will consolidate to oats...unless something in truffle's giant post makes me reconsider you're on your own for him though lol ><
[/B]
So clearly I'm your second top scumread. What bullshit that you are willing to lynch someone you don't even have a scumread on in a 25 player game.

Ritoky, means that hf thinks that the dude is somewhat scummy. Which could be important.
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 07 2015 09:56 GMT
#1857
On July 07 2015 04:14 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 03:42 marvellosity wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:41 geript wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:40 Holyflare wrote:
well keep on being poop then geript, nobody is going to listen to a line of post that says 0 reasons on why someone is mafia

Keep on being poop HF for not being good enough to understand my reads

your attitude is pretty scummy because it looks like you're angling to be ignored while whining that you're being ignored.

Nah, it's just that have no intentions of helping you guys and will ignore everyone and anyone who chooses to ignore my reads. It's a 2 way street marv. You know I tend to have very good reads early on and very strong well developed meta reads later on. Especially my townread early on are usually quite on point; exceptionally fantastically on point. It's one of the reasons why I've made a note that I still don't have a townread on Damdred. That should at least alert you to there being a problem there.

then fine, be ignored.

your attitude is toxic and has no place in a mafia game.

if you've not learnt how to play mafia and get your point across without being a massive bell-end, then you probably never will, and you deserve never to be listened to by anyone ever again.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 09:56 GMT
#1858
Good morning, catching up.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 07 2015 10:00 GMT
#1859
Lol geript is totally faking this push shit. He uses completely superficious reasoning to call vivax mafia without explain why mafia would intentionally misstate someone's posts. That's like super super dumb.

Please please can someone tell me why they aren't voting for geript.

He's gonna fake some anger when he gets back, but he doesn't even care about the current leading lynches, milo and trfel.

I'm not seeing anything for lynching milo.
And trfel seems pretty damn genuine. Can we talk about hts? And how her read on hf is so bad.
No gg, No skill.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 10:02 GMT
#1860
On July 07 2015 18:09 boxerfred wrote:
Also I might refrain from my HF scum lean, the read change from Trfel that he observed was really good. Still need to catch up.


I thought it was good when I first saw his post too. But HF is really good at taking things out of context if/when he's scum. Even if he's town the post is flawed because LS' filter showed some reasonable basis for the change.

The easiest way to cross check that is to look at LightningStrike's filter against the time stamps provided. It is a little annoying to do because the time stamps are in Korean time but once I did I found three quotes that I objectively found scummy in his filter before Trfel even explained it. (You hit the quote button and you'll find time stamp quoted in KST.)
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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