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elhonko
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden33 Posts
July 21 2012 16:59 GMT
#821
If the dog would bite me once. I would rip its jaw off.
Maybe I would die from the infection but a dog killing me before I killed it. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL


PS. my mother has been breeding great danes since I was just a little boy and we've had some problems with violent dogs.
eehh va?
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 17:05:59
July 21 2012 17:03 GMT
#822
On July 22 2012 01:50 YourMom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 01:45 Sorkoas wrote:
On July 22 2012 00:47 YourMom wrote:
Wrap cloth around forearm, let the dog bite then smash his neck.

GG no re.

As a piece of cloth is gonna be enough for a dog with a bite power of hundreds of pounds.


Sure you sacrifice the arm, but you'll survive. You'll get a Titanium prosthetic for it and be more prepared the next time a dog decides to fuck with a human.


You can't smash its neck you simply won't have the leverage. Kneeing works on humans but it doesn't work on dogs, because they react completely differently to attacks to their vital organs. There is also seems to be a really thick padding around its neck and body which must be like wearing body armor, because I have no idea how any human could have stayed up after my feeble attempts to fight some dog (long story), I looked absolutely pathetic trying to kick it while it stood there. You could possibly use its velocity to slam it on the ground and pin it down with your knee and attempt jump on and break its neck.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 17:08:42
July 21 2012 17:07 GMT
#823
I see the human winning if they play it out right. Can't really prove or disprove it as it's not exactly a scenario that's been enacted and got on tape a lot, but keep deflecting it by kicking it in the face with all your strength when it leaps. If it ends up getting close, huddle its back and poke it's eyes out (sorry :o). If it's on the ground for any period of time, stomp the fucked out of it.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Ryuhou)aS(
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1174 Posts
July 21 2012 17:08 GMT
#824
ezpz all you do is stick one arm out and take the bite, then shove that arm further down it's throat. (since dogs teeth are curved inwards you're actually pulling the teeth out of the wound without tearing it, which would happen when you pull out). Then the dogs whole attack system is useless while it's gagging on your arm, and you just choke that bitch out. ezpz.
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Beorning
Profile Joined June 2011
United States243 Posts
July 21 2012 17:08 GMT
#825
Human imo, if you can land some sort of kick with your heel on the dog's head. Or get some sort of hold on the dog from behind. But you gotta be quick, that dog could bite your arm and tear everything off it D:
SiroKO
Profile Joined February 2012
France721 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 17:34:36
July 21 2012 17:29 GMT
#826
Dogs are really overrated.
One of my grand father who was a postman destroid a german shepherd with one big kick in the face (he had special big boots).
The dog lost 2 teeth and his jaw was broken.

Only thing the human would need to win is a decent physical training, to protect his throat and preferably have big boots.


That saying, I believe most nerds with no physical training would get eaten alive.
All their theorycrafting would vanished at the second they feel the pain of the first bite.

I dont think anyone could overcome the fear and the pain of sharp teeth piercing up your veins and chewing up your flesh without having experienced other serious physical pain before.
And you don't learn that kind of things in the books nor in the gym, but while taking shots, for instance while boxing or practicing martial arts at a certain level.
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Sorkoas
Profile Joined May 2010
549 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 17:33:39
July 21 2012 17:33 GMT
#827
I'm still waiting for the video evidence to back up your claims about humans having any chance whatsoever versus a Shepherd in good shape
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 17:50:17
July 21 2012 17:49 GMT
#828
On July 22 2012 02:33 Sorkoas wrote:
I'm still waiting for the video evidence to back up your claims about humans having any chance whatsoever versus a Shepherd in good shape

I'm not sure if you're referring to one person in particular, but I'd also like to see video evidence backing the Shepherd > Human claim. Not that I would be surprised if I went either way, but if I had to guess without any results/evidence I would guess humans. I think most people are also just predicting and not saying they are positive it would go one way or the other.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
SiroKO
Profile Joined February 2012
France721 Posts
July 21 2012 17:51 GMT
#829
On July 22 2012 02:33 Sorkoas wrote:
I'm still waiting for the video evidence to back up your claims about humans having any chance whatsoever versus a Shepherd in good shape


Look at it rationally.

Physically trained men have strong arms, strong legs, strong upper and lower body.
They're also very big compared to a dog (assuming 1m70+ 65-70+kg).

The shepherd has nothing but a strong jab and big teeth.
They weight 30-35kg.

Assuming you don't kick and kill him right out the bat, only thing the shepherd would be able to do is bite a single of your arm or leg.
And then it's up to you.

You either fall in pain or you overcome your pain and hit him strong in the face.
The dog weighs 30-35 kg and has nothing but hits teeth.
2-3 hits in the face and the dog lose a teeth or is KO and the human wins.

Our envy always last longer than the happiness of those we envy
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 17:59:56
July 21 2012 17:54 GMT
#830
On July 22 2012 02:49 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 02:33 Sorkoas wrote:
I'm still waiting for the video evidence to back up your claims about humans having any chance whatsoever versus a Shepherd in good shape

I'm not sure if you're referring to one person in particular, but I'd also like to see video evidence backing the Shepherd > Human claim. Not that I would be surprised if I went either way, but if I had to guess without any results/evidence I would guess humans. I think most people are also just predicting and not saying they are positive it would go one way or the other.


No video, but there have been many anecdotal stories of dog fights (including mine) that shows its almost impossible to beat a dog.

Find a padded wall and punch and kick it continuously as hard as you can for about ten minutes, the amount of damage you have done to the wall will be the amount of damage you have done effectively to the dog. Whether or not you broke their ribs or cracked their skull doesn't matter it doesn't affect their ability to attack you in anyway.

You actually need a lot of technique and experience to take down a dog. Something of which an average human could not do, and even if he knew, couldn't do (e.g choking the dog, or grabbing the legs and splitting them).


On July 22 2012 02:51 SiroKO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 02:33 Sorkoas wrote:
I'm still waiting for the video evidence to back up your claims about humans having any chance whatsoever versus a Shepherd in good shape


Look at it rationally.

Physically trained men have strong arms, strong legs, strong upper and lower body.
They're also very big compared to a dog (assuming 1m70+ 65-70+kg).

The shepherd has nothing but a strong jab and big teeth.
They weight 30-35kg.

Assuming you don't kick and kill him right out the bat, only thing the shepherd would be able to do is bite a single of your arm or leg.
And then it's up to you.

You either fall in pain or you overcome your pain and hit him strong in the face.
The dog weighs 30-35 kg and has nothing but hits teeth.
2-3 hits in the face and the dog lose a teeth or is KO and the human wins.



This is not rational, as you have never fought a dog before.

Even if the dog is attacking another dog, 2-3 hits in the face does jack all. I've grabbed the collar and head of a dog (who was latched onto another dog) and kneed it 10 times in the face and it didn't do shit. Punched it in the nose, tried the entire kit and kaboodle of mythical places to hit that are supposedly painful to the dog and didn't do anything.
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Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 21 2012 17:58 GMT
#831
On July 22 2012 02:51 SiroKO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 02:33 Sorkoas wrote:
I'm still waiting for the video evidence to back up your claims about humans having any chance whatsoever versus a Shepherd in good shape


Look at it rationally.

Physically trained men have strong arms, strong legs, strong upper and lower body.
They're also very big compared to a dog (assuming 1m70+ 65-70+kg).

The shepherd has nothing but a strong jab and big teeth.
They weight 30-35kg.

Assuming you don't kick and kill him right out the bat, only thing the shepherd would be able to do is bite a single of your arm or leg.
And then it's up to you.

You either fall in pain or you overcome your pain and hit him strong in the face.
The dog weighs 30-35 kg and has nothing but hits teeth.
2-3 hits in the face and the dog lose a teeth or is KO and the human wins.



Dog's skull is stronger than your fist. A human hand would be obliterated before it did damage to a dog's skull.
Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
July 21 2012 18:02 GMT
#832
On July 22 2012 02:54 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 02:49 Grobyc wrote:
On July 22 2012 02:33 Sorkoas wrote:
I'm still waiting for the video evidence to back up your claims about humans having any chance whatsoever versus a Shepherd in good shape

I'm not sure if you're referring to one person in particular, but I'd also like to see video evidence backing the Shepherd > Human claim. Not that I would be surprised if I went either way, but if I had to guess without any results/evidence I would guess humans. I think most people are also just predicting and not saying they are positive it would go one way or the other.


No video, but there have been many anecdotal stories of dog fights (including mine) that shows its almost impossible to beat a dog.

Find a padded wall and punch and kick it continuously as hard as you can for about ten minutes, the amount of damage you have done to the wall will be the amount of damage you have done effectively to the dog. Whether or not you broke their ribs or cracked their skull doesn't matter it doesn't affect their ability to attack you in anyway.

You actually need a lot of technique and experience to take down a dog. Something of which an average human could not do, and even if he knew, couldn't do (e.g choking the dog, or grabbing the legs and splitting them).


Maybe its because I'm an experienced dog owner, but I am just so confident i could take on my own dog. My dog weighs nearly 80 kg and not 35 kgs like a puny German sheperd. Just so many tricks dogs are defenseless against. Ofcourse I would take some damage, teeth are hard to avoid, but I'm fairly confident I would disable him before it gets too bad.
Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
July 21 2012 18:03 GMT
#833
On July 22 2012 02:58 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 02:51 SiroKO wrote:
On July 22 2012 02:33 Sorkoas wrote:
I'm still waiting for the video evidence to back up your claims about humans having any chance whatsoever versus a Shepherd in good shape


Look at it rationally.

Physically trained men have strong arms, strong legs, strong upper and lower body.
They're also very big compared to a dog (assuming 1m70+ 65-70+kg).

The shepherd has nothing but a strong jab and big teeth.
They weight 30-35kg.

Assuming you don't kick and kill him right out the bat, only thing the shepherd would be able to do is bite a single of your arm or leg.
And then it's up to you.

You either fall in pain or you overcome your pain and hit him strong in the face.
The dog weighs 30-35 kg and has nothing but hits teeth.
2-3 hits in the face and the dog lose a teeth or is KO and the human wins.



Dog's skull is stronger than your fist. A human hand would be obliterated before it did damage to a dog's skull.


YOu dont hit it on the skull. YOu hit it on the jaw or an area near the jaw. Just like with humans.
YourMom
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania565 Posts
July 21 2012 18:04 GMT
#834
I love how people think that you actually feel pain during the fight.
I'm very good at making carriers.
Holy_AT
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria978 Posts
July 21 2012 18:05 GMT
#835
On July 22 2012 02:54 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 02:49 Grobyc wrote:
On July 22 2012 02:33 Sorkoas wrote:
I'm still waiting for the video evidence to back up your claims about humans having any chance whatsoever versus a Shepherd in good shape

I'm not sure if you're referring to one person in particular, but I'd also like to see video evidence backing the Shepherd > Human claim. Not that I would be surprised if I went either way, but if I had to guess without any results/evidence I would guess humans. I think most people are also just predicting and not saying they are positive it would go one way or the other.


No video, but there have been many anecdotal stories of dog fights (including mine) that shows its almost impossible to beat a dog.

Find a padded wall and punch and kick it continuously as hard as you can for about ten minutes, the amount of damage you have done to the wall will be the amount of damage you have done effectively to the dog. Whether or not you broke their ribs or cracked their skull doesn't matter it doesn't affect their ability to attack you in anyway.

You actually need a lot of technique and experience to take down a dog. Something of which an average human could not do, and even if he knew, couldn't do (e.g choking the dog, or grabbing the legs and splitting them).


Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 02:51 SiroKO wrote:
On July 22 2012 02:33 Sorkoas wrote:
I'm still waiting for the video evidence to back up your claims about humans having any chance whatsoever versus a Shepherd in good shape


Look at it rationally.

Physically trained men have strong arms, strong legs, strong upper and lower body.
They're also very big compared to a dog (assuming 1m70+ 65-70+kg).

The shepherd has nothing but a strong jab and big teeth.
They weight 30-35kg.

Assuming you don't kick and kill him right out the bat, only thing the shepherd would be able to do is bite a single of your arm or leg.
And then it's up to you.

You either fall in pain or you overcome your pain and hit him strong in the face.
The dog weighs 30-35 kg and has nothing but hits teeth.
2-3 hits in the face and the dog lose a teeth or is KO and the human wins.



This is not rational, as you have never fought a dog before.

Even if the dog is attacking another dog, 2-3 hits in the face does jack all. I've grabbed the collar and head of a dog (who was latched onto another dog) and kneed it 10 times in the face and it didn't do shit. Punched it in the nose, tried the entire kit and kaboodle of mythical places to hit that are supposedly painful to the dog and didn't do anything.


Are we talking about dogs or zombi dogs ?
This is other nonsense that you dont do much to a dog if you punch or kick it, you do the same damage as you would do to a human ... maybe even more because humans would try to use hands/feet to block the punches kicks while the dog would take the full bront of the force.
If you want a dog to let go frpm someone/something you come up from behind and use your elbow joint (is it called that ?) to choke the dog.
SiroKO
Profile Joined February 2012
France721 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 18:13:35
July 21 2012 18:07 GMT
#836
On July 22 2012 02:54 sluggaslamoo wrote:



Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 02:51 SiroKO wrote:
On July 22 2012 02:33 Sorkoas wrote:
I'm still waiting for the video evidence to back up your claims about humans having any chance whatsoever versus a Shepherd in good shape


Look at it rationally.

Physically trained men have strong arms, strong legs, strong upper and lower body.
They're also very big compared to a dog (assuming 1m70+ 65-70+kg).

The shepherd has nothing but a strong jab and big teeth.
They weight 30-35kg.

Assuming you don't kick and kill him right out the bat, only thing the shepherd would be able to do is bite a single of your arm or leg.
And then it's up to you.

You either fall in pain or you overcome your pain and hit him strong in the face.
The dog weighs 30-35 kg and has nothing but hits teeth.
2-3 hits in the face and the dog lose a teeth or is KO and the human wins.



This is not rational, as you have never fought a dog before.

Even if the dog is attacking another dog, 2-3 hits in the face does jack all. I've grabbed the collar and head of a dog (who was latched onto another dog) and kneed it 10 times in the face and it didn't do shit. Punched it in the nose, tried the entire kit and kaboodle of mythical places to hit that are supposedly painful to the dog and didn't do anything.


I told you one of my grandfather nearly killed a shepherd with a single kick.
As said before, dogs weight 30-35kg and take all your hits with full strength since they can't block anything.

If you can't break up any dog's teeth with 10 legs shot, it's up to you to have a physical training.
Our envy always last longer than the happiness of those we envy
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2502 Posts
July 21 2012 18:12 GMT
#837
Thank you for bumping this thread whoever you are.

Dogs are quite the faitfull type, so my opinion is that if the dog is fighting for someone, his owner for example, some dogs would fight to the DEATH to defend that person. Thats how they train police dogs, and lifegaurd dogs. Its all based on the relationship to the "owner" . Lifegaurds dogs will jump from helicopters to save people. Think about it. San Bernads (for life-saving), German shepards (for drugs) and Labradors (for Bombs). The psychological aspect of the fight is so important.

Plus another thing. In our society Humans are not allowed to fight each other with bear hands, except in specifically designed events such as Martial arts. Dogs (some of them) are used to fight each other.
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
July 21 2012 18:17 GMT
#838
you can see a video of a dog killing a man if you google worldstaruncut pitbull trying to bite man's arm off in brazil. warning - it's pretty graphic. although the guy was pretty old, out of shape, and seemed to be employing a strategy of "wait for help" instead of "fight to death"
ToFjames
Profile Joined November 2010
United States33 Posts
July 21 2012 18:18 GMT
#839
Step 1. reach hand down throat
Step 2. grab on to whatever is down there
Step 3. wait for dog to gag and pass out (dogs can't bite while they are gaging)
Step 4. curb stomp dog's head
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
July 21 2012 18:19 GMT
#840
Human would win. Too many ways a human can attack the dog, dog can only bite really. If it bites legs, you tear its eyes out/break its face in. If it bites your arms, you jump on top of it, hit with other arm, etc. Not to mention human would have reach advantage for a free shot before dog got to him.

If dog gets to your neck, you lose, but that should never happen.
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