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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
"nothing that isnt part of you as a weapon" "no protective clothing" so you get to wear either a tshirt and some pants or go naked, boots not an option i think the dog wins 90% of the time, humans never developed to fight things head to head, we're smart and the smart thing to do is to not get in the cage. | ||
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TrainSamurai
339 Posts
On July 22 2012 01:11 CobaltBlu wrote: I'm not sure how many people here think they're going to squarely kick a charging dog in the face anyway or even get a hand near the dogs face without your hand getting destroyed. I know from playing with my mutt at home that GS would destroy me if It was trying to kill me and all I had to fight it with were my hands. Not to mention if the dog goes for your arm and bites your wrist. | ||
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Rassy
Netherlands2308 Posts
Though by lowering himself to the ground he exposes his throat wich would be an insta gg if the dog gets hold of it. Thoose boots would definatly help and i cant imagine the dog taking a heavy blow in the head without sustaining significant damage, giving the human an easy win. Though i think it will be verry difficult to get in a good hit,The dog seems agile enough to avoid direct and heavy hits. Only keeping the dog at a distance will loose for the human in the end as the dog can just keep circling around till the human is completely out of energy. Still going with the dog i think. Realy wish an expert ,maybe cesar milano ,stepped in to solve this now realy interesting question lol,somehow an internet search didnt give anny good info yet. | ||
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JamesArk
Canada37 Posts
On July 22 2012 00:55 Dr.Lettuce wrote: Pretty sure you could RNC a german shephard, hell take it's back and gnp that mother fucker! I dunno man, that would have to be some awfully fast back taking and even then you'd have to get both hooks in between a scrambling dog's legs or it would just flail and turn out. I think a guillotine would be possible if you threw yourself on top of it but I still wouldn't want to get close enough to an angry dog to find out. I also think everyone greatly overestimates their ability to kill an adrenaline-pumping animal with a super-powered jaw. Kick it when it's coming in, maybe try to get a knee off when it's close - after that you're just food. | ||
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NrG.Bamboo
United States2756 Posts
I just feel sad thinking about it though  But if you were to break a dog's leg, it should become quite difficult for it to attack you very well, I would think. However, anyone who has been attacked by a good sized dog that was genuinely looking to do serious damage would probably think twice before choosing a human to win. Having a dog with its teeth inside you wrestling you back and tearing your muscle would certainly hinder your ability to suck it up long enough to do enough substantial damage. It's not like a dog just bites you and stands there; it will bite you and continue to pull and reposition until the flesh is torn off, the dog is forced off, or the dog finds a better target on your body.I guess in the end, if the human is able to withstand the pain and stay calm (not really calm, but focus adrenaline/energy correctly) enough to fight efficiently, there's a good chance to win, but my bet is definitely with the dog. They do have instincts to attack effectively, ignore pain in order to finish the fight, and are incredibly agile. Besides, if the human were to fall down at any point, it could easily be gg. The pain/ability to die from being attacked in the face/neck region is much too high to win if the dog ever got the upper hand. On July 21 2012 22:55 Crushinator wrote: I own the most massive great dane you've ever seen, but from my experiences wrestling him, I would say I have a fair chance against him. He is extremely strong and if he knew what to do I would stand no chance, but he doesn't have much of a clue. Your great dane could and would easily kill you. You are his master, and he is just playing around with you. | ||
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Ksyper
Bulgaria665 Posts
If it's someone like Bas Rutten, or Badr Hari you can count that the dog will be out in one kick. But if it's me 60 kg out of shape gamer dude and the dog is well fed and healthy, it's really likely that it would eat me. If it's a underweight dog I am pretty sure I can take it out, otherwise doesn't seem likely ;D | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On July 22 2012 01:11 SoleSteeler wrote: I don't think I've ever seen a dog get "knocked out". Kicking a dog as many times as you want probably won't do jack shit. Even "gouging the eyes" - are you serious? You're going to eye gouge a dog? A dog will fuck up a normal human in this situation. There's not really any better option than eye gouging, when you only have one arm to use. Eyes are the weakest spot on most animals and don't require special knowledge of anatomy to exploit. | ||
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puppykiller
United States3137 Posts
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Terranist
United States2496 Posts
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NrG.Bamboo
United States2756 Posts
On July 22 2012 01:26 puppykiller wrote: I would punch the dog in the nose, throat and penis. Well you do seem to have the necessary prerequisites for this job. | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On July 22 2012 01:26 puppykiller wrote: I would punch the dog in the nose, throat and penis. Ill tell you a story: My dad's friends needed to hit a dog in the balls 10 times with a 2x4 before it let go of its prey. Edit: And lol I just got the joke. | ||
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ninini
Sweden1204 Posts
On July 22 2012 00:54 OneOther wrote: I think most people picking humans probably never had much experience with shepherds. I'm pretty average sized 5'9/170 (maybe a little smaller than the american male average) and my old shepherd would own me in a do or die fight. No chance, no doubt. If you are a linebacker at 6'3/250 then maybe. Even then I wouldn't bet on it. I've had a few German shepherds, and they are strong, but fairly small compared to a grown up guy who is in shape. Dogs are better suited for fighting, but humans are bigger, which gives a significant advantage. A male GS weighs like 35kg. That's comparable to a 10 year old child. If the dog throws himself at you, it doesn't take much power to kick him down. I have no doubts that an athletic guy have the pure strength to kick a dogs ass, and as long as he's prepared for the attack, he should be able to dodge any bite attempts. | ||
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
On July 22 2012 01:08 discomatt wrote: A friend's mom breeds GS. They are amazing animals, but this comparison is unfair. A dog bred for strength, and trained to act aggressively is different than a pet. She has Shepherds that aren't allowed around children, and she has some that are docile, and in relatively bad shape. If you put an average dog against an average human, 'hand-to-hand,' the human would lose. We're not a physically strong species on average, mostly because we don't have to be. If you put a trained, strong human against a trained, strong dog, it's a toss-up, but I think the human would have a greater chance simply due to combat strategy and size. I've heard stories about dogs 'turning.' There were injuries, but the dogs ended up dead. Also, we have to keep in mind if we want a real 'species vs species' battle here, the human would win. We are smart to the point where we don't have to be the strongest to be at the top of the food chain. A semi-automatic pistol is enough for the average person to stop a Shepherd unscathed. They don't have anywhere near an 800lb bite. They are exceptional animals, but so are trained humans. We also have a wonderful intelligence, and opposing thumb that lets us utilize weaponry. You can't really say 'man vs dog' without taking that into account. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_bite_force_of_the_German_Shepherd | ||
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peacenl
550 Posts
On July 22 2012 01:21 starfries wrote: There's not really any better option than eye gouging, when you only have one arm to use. Eyes are the weakest spot on most animals and don't require special knowledge of anatomy to exploit. I feel like this is highly situational, these is never a definite winner. A bit of a problem for humans is that if you go into a very stressful mode, you can't come up with these creative solutions mentioned because your whole body is in using all its energy for the fight and instinct (a part of the brain that makes decisions faster than your rational thought) takes over. So here's my solution: because you will most likely be taken of balance and shaken around your best bet would be to use your own weight and tough spots such as elbows, foot and knees to immoblize the dog through their legs. Picture this: a dog bites down at your arm you use whole your weight to pin down the dogs neck to the ground and use your body as a counterweight to get him of your arm of leg. | ||
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Perdac Curall
242 Posts
On July 22 2012 01:30 ninini wrote: I've had a few German shepherds, and they are strong, but fairly small compared to a grown up guy who is in shape. Dogs are better suited for fighting, but humans are bigger, which gives a significant advantage. A male GS weighs like 35kg. That's comparable to a 10 year old child. If the dog throws himself at you, it doesn't take much power to kick him down. I have no doubts that an athletic guy have the pure strength to kick a dogs ass, and as long as he's prepared for the attack, he should be able to dodge any bite attempts. My brother has had two male German Shepherds and they both weighed around 115 lbs. They are extremely thick, heavy dogs. They would pose a real challenge to a weak human. But I still think any human that is of moderate size and strength would be able to get its arms around the dogs neck and choke it to death, though the dog would definitely get in a few bites that will leave scars before it goes down. | ||
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YourMom
Romania565 Posts
GG no re. | ||
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Sorkoas
549 Posts
On July 22 2012 00:47 YourMom wrote: Wrap cloth around forearm, let the dog bite then smash his neck. GG no re. As a piece of cloth is gonna be enough for a dog with a bite power of hundreds of pounds. | ||
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YourMom
Romania565 Posts
On July 22 2012 01:45 Sorkoas wrote: As a piece of cloth is gonna be enough for a dog with a bite power of hundreds of pounds. Sure you sacrifice the arm, but you'll survive. You'll get a Titanium prosthetic for it and be more prepared the next time a dog decides to fuck with a human. | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On July 22 2012 01:39 peacenl wrote: I feel like this is highly situational, these is never a definite winner. A bit of a problem for humans is that if you go into a very stressful mode, you can't come up with these creative solutions mentioned because your whole body is in using all its energy for the fight and instinct takes over. So here's my solution: because you will most likely be taken of balance and shaken around your best bet would be to use your own weight and tough spots such as elbows, foot and knees to immoblize the dog through their legs. Picture this: a dog grabs your arm you use whole your weight to pin down the dogs neck to the ground and use your body as a counterweight to get him of your arm of leg. Read my post on the last page, I talked about the stress thing already. There's no point trying to get it off your arm/leg, you'll just do more damage to yourself in the process while not doing any damage to the dog. Even if you get it off, the damage is already done, you've increased the bleeding by opening the wounds, and it's just going to bite you again. A terrible choice imo. If something with a full set of canine teeth latches onto you, you might as well write off that limb and take advantage of the fact that its teeth are now occupied. | ||
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MVega
763 Posts
On July 22 2012 01:44 YourMom wrote: You also could shove your fist down its throat and choke it to deth. GG no re. As someone who has reached into the mouth of a dog, I can tell you that this isn't really an option. Maybe if you have a little fist and the dog reacts really slowly for some reason. I've had to dislodge something from the back of a dog's throat and let me tell you, it gets really cramped in the back of their mouth and it's extremely sharp back there, it was a very painful experience even when the dog wasn't fighting me. Now imagine the dog is biting down on your hand/arm at the time. | ||
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