EPTThe dog wins. The person will barely have the time to react. Even an average person on instinct will protect their throat and vital areas, but they'll pass out from a bite to the leg or arm given enough time.
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Tatari
United States1179 Posts
The dog wins. The person will barely have the time to react. Even an average person on instinct will protect their throat and vital areas, but they'll pass out from a bite to the leg or arm given enough time. | ||
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NexCa
Germany954 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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kruxey
Bulgaria168 Posts
except if you are afraid of dogs... | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
 @Detri: that's because the bull was immobilized and had a bunch of dogs set on it lol. Also notice the dog flying in the air. The dogs are more agile than the bull and having multiple dogs set on a bull and distract it etc helps a lot...moot point in that regard imo. I think....assuming that the human is a male and is reasonably well-muscled, he does have a chance, but it won't be an easy win by a long shot. He'd have to be ready for the dog for sure, for one. It's true that the human need only watch out for one specific attack. If he can block or parry or otherwise end up not writhing in pain or dead right after that instant (very difficult), he should be able to immolize the dog or choke it etc. Having hard boots or being somewhat heavily dressed could help as well. When faced with fight-or-flight situations, humans can definitely transcend normal human boundaries. The human flight-or-flight response is extremely, extremely powerful (e.g. a guy pushing a boulder the size of him off of his arm with his other arm, breaking his other arm's bones in the process, the force he exerted was so great; also a police running a sub-10-second 100m dash when he realized that a bomb was about to go off) and our mental capacity could also allow us to react extremely quickly and with the best course of action. That being said, the person obviously has to be at least above a certain threshold in terms of physical capability. If it's a scrawny guy or a normal woman, he/she'd stand no chance because they probably literally would be physically incapable of taking down a dog that way. A reasonably-fit person would stand a chance if he went into full fight-or-flight, as he'd realize that he'd have to fight to the death and that puts a human capable of doing some ridiculous things. Having martial arts experiences or at least knowing how to kick and what attacks would work on a dog would be very important as well/ Other things to consider--human using just the clothes on his back as a tool. If he could react quickly enough, he could use his clothing to ward off attacks (Bourne supremacy style with a bath towel vs a knife lol), smother the dog etc. Also thicker clothing could reduce the pressure to a bearable level (also depends on tolerance) so that the person could get a grip on the dog. I don't think it would be easy for either the dog or the human. Also I've read and heard somehow that giving a dog a knee in the chest will actually stop it in its tracks if you're big enough and you hit it in the right place. Evidently takes the air right out of its lungs and is actually sort of a weak spot if it jumps up and tries to go straight for your neck. If it latches on to a limb, the person is going to get seriously injured if he's able to prevent it from getting the neck, but he should be able to lie on it and choke it or something. The neck is very flexible, which is why you would have to choke higher up and go for the eyes etc. Looking it up, a German Shepherd has a bite of "over 238 lbs" which isn't as impressive as the 800+ lbs statistic some of you guys are giving. Maybe wikipedia is wrong on that one though. Seriously though, a human pumped full of adrenaline and whatever else is also extremely, extremely dangerous (as is his German Shepherd counterpart). If the human is prepared and isn't an idiot, I can see him coming out on top if he manages to land the first blow somehow, etc. A human in full fight-or-flight also would feel a lot less pain (woman who fell off a 26 drop directly on one leg hobbled 10 miles to get help, feeling no pain until she was in the airlift bed) and could be able to fight through it. It's not 100% chance either way but I think it would be in the favor of a prepared, intelligent, fit, and full-on fighting state human versus the same in a dog since a human in fight-or-flight could do more I think. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45542 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xyLRv.jpg) This thing would rape me and then kill me and then rape my corpse, but that's because I've never really fought before and I'm not a huge guy. I don't know if I could make a sweeping generalization for all adults, but we're talking about german shepherds here, not any arbitrary puppy or less vicious dog. These boys are machines. Big adults could take them. Fighters could take them. Plenty of people would get wrecked though. | ||
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nikj
Canada669 Posts
I've never had to do this personally so I'm not sure if it would work or not. | ||
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Peqqz
Germany201 Posts
On July 22 2012 00:23 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: How you beat that? | ||
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smokeyhoodoo
United States1021 Posts
On July 21 2012 23:36 trainRiderJ wrote: Are the people voting for humans assuming the dog will sit on command instead of attacking? Do any of you know how big and strong a german shepard is? This fight would be over in 10 seconds and I doubt the dog would even be moderately injured. Yes, less than half the size of a human, and considerably weaker due to much less muscle mass. | ||
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frontliner2
Netherlands844 Posts
If you grab on to the dog it will easily take all your fingers. Your only chance is to gauge out it's eyes or kick in it's chest, you will be highly unlikely though, a dog is fast and reacts instinctively. Also as soon as you stuble or for one second lose your defensive stance you it will tear your throat out. I'll vote DOG | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
On July 22 2012 00:26 smokeyhoodoo wrote: Yes, less than half the size of a human, and considerably weaker due to much less muscle mass. It's hard to say it's considerably weaker. Maybe if you like arm wrestled it or something.... sure. But they can barrel you over really easily and push you around. The hind legs are insanely powerful. More importantly the jaw is as well... I have a German Shepherd. An 75 pound kid wouldnt be able to budge me. My 75 pound dog can drag me around with ease. | ||
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
A working German Shepherd has 800lbs bite pressure, is faster, more resiliant to attacks, has better hearing and smell and could fight blind, I just wonder why anyone would believe any person would have a chance. Fighting and killing efficiently is why the dog exists and was bred to begin with. I have read people think they can kick the dog. A dog's face is stronger than a human foot, and a dog's face has teeth. Headlock? Dog's neck is long enough to maul your face while you try that. As soon as the fight begins the human has very few options, and every single one of them involves being bitten. I see no way around it. A GS can pull a car with it's mouth. It will tear off everything it gets it's teeth on instantly, it can bite through bone. | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
Also dogs don't tend to let go very fast ones they get a hold of you, use it to your advantage. | ||
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WniO
United States2706 Posts
i remember when i was younger helping my dad remove like 30 porcupine needles from our springer spaniel, (much smaller than a g shep.) and my dad who is built strong had his whole body on the dog with me holding his head and the dog would literally be able to buck my dad a good amount, it was insane. | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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Sorkoas
549 Posts
Sure, it's a top class dog trained to fight, but then IMHO you can also assume that the police dog vs superhuman comparison is about the same as average dog of same breed vs average human would have a similar outcome. | ||
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Daray
6006 Posts
On July 22 2012 00:34 Lysanias wrote: Let it bite your leg, grab it by the neck and chocke it to death. adrenaline ftw and a cornered human is serieusly scarry. Also dogs don't tend to let go very fast ones they get a hold of you, use it to your advantage. Let it bite your leg? You'd pass out from the pain instantly. Seriously though you know it's the internet when people think they have any chance in this fight. | ||
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ninini
Sweden1204 Posts
If wolves were unfriendly enough that they hunted humans, I think we could assume these things: Humans in general, especially those living in the danger zone would be more fit, probably comparable to a professional tennis player in build/strength, but weaker in stamina. The human would have atleast a basic means of protection, like clothes and a pair of leather shoes. The shoes would make kicks more powerful as well as serve as a protection against everything except direct bites. The human would be educated and know the rough strategy on how to take down a wolf. I think we can assume these things to be true in a reality where wolves were this dangerous, and then I think the human would win. The height and range difference helps a lot. The human is also a lot more versatile, and smarter. If they're both females I'm not sure who would win, since the human kicks wouldn't be as critical, and the range advantage would be less significant. I agree that a wolf is probably more fit for fighting, but not by a significant amount, and the human wins big time on strategy and versatility. | ||
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On July 22 2012 00:34 Lysanias wrote: Let it bite your leg, grab it by the neck and chocke it to death. adrenaline ftw and a cornered human is serieusly scarry. Also dogs don't tend to let go very fast ones they get a hold of you, use it to your advantage. Yea this might work if you are fighting your neighbors puppy. We had a shepherd when I was younger, and these things will tear your limb apart and an average human is not going to be able to choke a shepherd to death while it's probably mauling everything off in range. | ||
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MVega
763 Posts
On July 22 2012 00:35 OneOther wrote: A German Shepherd vs an average human being? Are you kidding me? Do people think you can just kick a shepherd to death while it just lies there? These dogs are extremely fast, strong and even smart. Average human stands no chance. A lot people who have never owned a German Shepherd or similar dog actually do think that way. I've heard a lot of people remark that they'd simply "kick the dog." In my lifetime I've had a German Shepherd, a Doberman, Two huskies, and now I have a Pitbull. Just talking about the German Shepherd, he was smart. It didn't take him long to figure things out. A lot of people think dogs are stupid animals, but a smart breed like a German Shepherd is more clever than people give them credit for. I run, he ran faster and he was much more agile. I'm strong, but his jaws at the very least were stronger and his teeth were huge. When I was still training him there were times where he would pick something up that he wasn't supposed to have and I would have to take it away from him. I honestly couldn't pull his jaws apart to get it away from him. He was resilient. I saw that dog run face first into a wall one time because he was distracted, his head put a hole in the wall and he didn't give a shit. I saw him run around a swimming pool and straight into an old iron pole that was used for clotheslines. He didn't give a shit. Dogs are tougher than people who aren't dog owners give them credit for. Good thing that they're good natured until lazy/mean people ruin them. On July 22 2012 00:34 Lysanias wrote: Let it bite your leg, grab it by the neck and chocke it to death. adrenaline ftw and a cornered human is serieusly scarry. Also dogs don't tend to let go very fast ones they get a hold of you, use it to your advantage. Good luck getting a good hold on it and keeping a good hold on it while it thrashes around with a huge chunk of your flesh in it's mouth. | ||
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