EPTSomething might actually be happening, thank fuckin’ god,
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
Something might actually be happening, thank fuckin’ god, | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46713 Posts
On January 08 2021 03:08 Zambrah wrote: AOC and Jamaal Bowman came out in support of reconvening congress to impeach Trump if the 25th amendment isn’t going to happen today, so expect to see more and more Democrats trickle in calling to reconvene maybe. Something might actually be happening, thank fuckin’ god, Just like during the first impeachment, it may pass the House but it won't pass the Senate. I wish it would, but there's no way. 2/3 of the Senate would need to convict Trump, and that would require Republicans to do the right thing. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
On January 08 2021 03:11 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Just like during the first impeachment, it may pass the House but it won't pass the Senate. I wish it would, but there's no way. 2/3 of the Senate would need to convict Trump, and that would require Republicans to do the right thing. Tbh, I’m not sure it’s that impossible, frankly I think even McConnell might be done enough to remove him from office right now. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On January 08 2021 03:13 Zambrah wrote: Tbh, I’m not sure it’s that impossible, frankly I think even McConnell might be done enough to remove him from office right now. When I imagine the rage McConnell must have felt being evacuated from the chamber, I think its possible. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
On January 08 2021 03:17 Mohdoo wrote: When I imagine the rage McConnell must have felt being evacuated from the chamber, I think its possible. I imagine he might be literally fearing for the future of the Republican Party too, if anyone is a hardcore Party Man in politics it’s him imo. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
On January 08 2021 03:06 KwarK wrote: Sorry, is your stance here that China and Japan weren't in WW2, they were still in the 1931-1945 Sino Japanese war as a distinct thing or is your stance that they were in WW2, and in the Sino Japanese war, but one war ended (possibly in 1941?) and another started at the same time? I ask because you specify that it's a series of distinct wars which requires that you be able to distinguish between them. Obviously I can't distinguish between them but that's because I can't see how these are distinct wars. Please go ahead and distinguish. I'm saying that the Japan's invasion of Manchuria in 1931 is a distinct war from Sino Japanese war which started in 1937. There is no 1931-1945 Sino Japanese war. If you can lump the two together what with the cessection in hostility for 5 years, you might as well group any wars that share the same basis such as the broad category of the expansion of the Empire of Japan such as the 1904 Russo-Japan war or any war sharing the same nation even with a gap of 5 years as continuation of that war. At that point you might as well say that WW2 is just a small part of a global war that has been raging from about 1500 AD to present. (Not an entirely invalid point of view but also very far away from the idea of distinct separate wars.) Anyways, that's my last post on the matter as it's very offtopic at this point. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On January 08 2021 02:43 Gorsameth wrote: If the VP + Cabinet thinks the President is unable to do his duty they can remove him from power. Be it because he is unconscious, insane or whatever reason they deem appropriate. It's the VP + Cabinet + Senate | ||
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Starlightsun
United States1405 Posts
On January 08 2021 03:08 Zambrah wrote: AOC and Jamaal Bowman came out in support of reconvening congress to impeach Trump if the 25th amendment isn’t going to happen today, so expect to see more and more Democrats trickle in calling to reconvene maybe. Something might actually be happening, thank fuckin’ god, In addition to removing Trump I hope Democrats seize this moment to address the police treatments of black vs white. There's hardly a starker image of double standard than police letting a white mob waltz in to the nation's capitol building, less than a year after the brutal crackdowns we witnessed of BLM protests. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22705 Posts
Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide VP + cabinet. Or congress can pick a different group.The Senate does not have to approve anything so long as the VP and Cabinet agree, until the President disputes it. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
On January 08 2021 03:27 Starlightsun wrote: In addition to removing Trump I hope Democrats seize this moment to address the police treatments of black vs white. There's hardly a starker image of double standard than police letting a white mob waltz in to the nation's capitol building, less than a year after the brutal crackdowns we witnessed of BLM protests. Democrats can and should use this moment to do a TON of stuff, imo part of keeping fascism down in the US is going to relate to improving material conditions of Americans and improving civil rights. There is now a massive impetus for change in the US and Democrats have got to seize it. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On January 08 2021 03:18 Zambrah wrote: I imagine he might be literally fearing for the future of the Republican Party too, if anyone is a hardcore Party Man in politics it’s him imo. That was part of his argument against the objections, btw. Paraphrased : "Why are we trying to overturn the electoral college - you guys know if you succeed, we'll never win the presidency again, right?" McConnell is also very high risk for COVID and is known for taking extra precautions in the senate, so I would imagine he's extremely pissed about this. (Childhood polio means if he gets covid, he's basically dead). Even if they didn't want to kill him, they could do it by accident very easily. Duckworth is another person who would be more affected than normal - that's why her speech was so impassioned yesterday (she barricaded herself in her office, and she's a double amputee from the Iraq war, being ambushed by an insurgents IED). The 25th amendment is faster but Impeachment is easier, basically. (The 25th, if Trump contests that he is fit of mind and not insane, has to have the senate declare, no, dude, you're nuts, but it bypasses the house). Impeachment makes him unable to run again for ANY public office, as an additional benefit. A couple news items - A member of the WV house delegation (Derrick Evans) was a member of the insurrectionist group and filmed himself storming the DC capitol. He's now claiming he was acting as a journalist (seriously). Check out chucklefucks Gosar over here , btw. Calling for peace on twitter and being a provocateur on parler. | ||
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Starlightsun
United States1405 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22705 Posts
On January 08 2021 03:34 Nevuk wrote:The 25th amendment is faster but Impeachment is easier, basically. (The 25th, if Trump contests that he is fit of mind and not insane, has to have the senate declare, no, dude, you're nuts, but it bypasses the house). Impeachment makes him unable to run again for ANY public office, as an additional benefit. Democrats could even pull a McConnell if Trump challenges the 25th (which is would 100% do). They have 21 days to decide if he is fit or not before he automatically gets Presidential power back. They could simply never have a vote and wait out for Biden's inauguration. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On January 08 2021 03:27 Starlightsun wrote: In addition to removing Trump I hope Democrats seize this moment to address the police treatments of black vs white. There's hardly a starker image of double standard than police letting a white mob waltz in to the nation's capitol building, less than a year after the brutal crackdowns we witnessed of BLM protests. The guy who propped his feet up on a desk in pelosi's office, bled on said desk, stole letters and left her a threatening note is STILL walking around free even after confessing to NYT's reporters. He's also a confessed white nationalist. So yes, the police in this country need reformed. I don't mean "needs reforms". I mean reformed - a police force is necessary, but our current one needs literally broken apart and made anew in a lot of the country - starting with DC. NYT story : https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/us/politics/richard-barnett-pelosi.html | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
Ive seen images of it up on ebay too, but I cant confirm if its real. If it is, ebay took the listing down. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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HelpMeGetBetter
United States766 Posts
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Doublemint
Austria8778 Posts
On January 08 2021 03:47 HelpMeGetBetter wrote: Pelosi was supposed to speak 45mins ago. wonder what the delay is.... well she can't find her podium obviously. | ||
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HelpMeGetBetter
United States766 Posts
sorry i dont know the details | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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