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Shingi11
Profile Joined May 2016
290 Posts
January 07 2021 19:00 GMT
#59481
So Trump attempts a coup and fails and even after knowing that you still get some people in that are like "ya I still vote for him".
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-07 19:06:36
January 07 2021 19:02 GMT
#59482
Thanks to the deplorables, yesterday was the first time the confederate flag appeared in the capitol. And the KKK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
January 07 2021 19:04 GMT
#59483
On January 08 2021 04:00 Shingi11 wrote:
So Trump attempts a coup and fails and even after knowing that you still get some people in that are like "ya I still vote for him".


Even better: All the people who were arm chair calling for insurrection and violent civil war are now saying "that was ANTIFA, not us".
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
January 07 2021 19:06 GMT
#59484
Everything is always antifa, even the literal profa!
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
January 07 2021 19:08 GMT
#59485
Biden is speaking. Always nice to hear an adult speak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2842 Posts
January 07 2021 19:09 GMT
#59486
On January 08 2021 03:53 Mohdoo wrote:
One interesting component here is that if Trump is forcibly removed, it would mean he can't run again in 2024. It is likely hugely positive for Republicans if Trump is not a possibility.


No way he is getting impeached unless they are 100 % certain they have republican votes. Otherwise they are just stupid.
Having Trump both as a boogyman and tearing holes in the GOP is an incredible asset for 2024.
Unity, support, family, and kneecapping bitches.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
January 07 2021 19:15 GMT
#59487
On January 08 2021 04:09 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2021 03:53 Mohdoo wrote:
One interesting component here is that if Trump is forcibly removed, it would mean he can't run again in 2024. It is likely hugely positive for Republicans if Trump is not a possibility.


No way he is getting impeached unless they are 100 % certain they have republican votes. Otherwise they are just stupid.
Having Trump both as a boogyman and tearing holes in the GOP is an incredible asset for 2024.

It's too much like having a live grenade in your hands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
January 07 2021 19:15 GMT
#59488
Nancy Pelosi invoking HeAlInG tHe SoUl Of OuR nAtIoN and uNiTy upsets me.

Unity is not what we fucking need.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9062 Posts
January 07 2021 19:17 GMT
#59489
CNN has put names to some of the faces and will probably out more as it investigates.
(CNN)The mob of Trump supporters who stormed the US Capitol on Wednesday included conspiracy theorists linked to QAnon and the Proud Boys -- two right-wing extremist factions that President Donald Trump repeatedly refused to condemn during his election campaign last year.

The insurrection at the heart of America's democracy, egged on by Trump's rhetoric, represented a stunning show of force for the fringe movements and their adherents. Four people were left dead during the mayhem, according to the Washington, D.C. Metropolitan Police Department, including one woman shot by a U.S. Capitol Police officer and three other people who had medical emergencies.
One of the most recognizable figures in the videos and photos of the chaos on Capitol Hill was a man in his 30s with a painted face, fur hat and a helmet with horns.
The protester, Jake Angeli -- known by followers as the QAnon Shaman -- quickly became a symbol of the bizarre and frightening spectacle as photos circulated of him roaming the Capitol halls holding an American flag affixed to a spear in one hand and a bullhorn in the other, and even standing shirtless atop the Senate dais.

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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
January 07 2021 19:18 GMT
#59490
On January 08 2021 04:15 Zambrah wrote:
Nancy Pelosi invoking HeAlInG tHe SoUl Of OuR nAtIoN and uNiTy upsets me.

Unity is not what we fucking need.


Half of republicans support the assault on the capital. Half don't. The good half needs to unite with democrats to vanquish the beast.
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
January 07 2021 19:19 GMT
#59491
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-07 19:22:37
January 07 2021 19:20 GMT
#59492
Edit:nevermind
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-07 19:23:45
January 07 2021 19:21 GMT
#59493
On January 08 2021 04:18 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2021 04:15 Zambrah wrote:
Nancy Pelosi invoking HeAlInG tHe SoUl Of OuR nAtIoN and uNiTy upsets me.

Unity is not what we fucking need.


Half of republicans support the assault on the capital. Half don't. The good half needs to unite with democrats to vanquish the beast.


I hope she means it in a Stop Trump Way and not in the Let’s Be Nice to Shitty Republicans way, but I’m worried.

EDIT: Pelosi refusing to commit to a timeline is pissing me off too, if you invoke Schumer then fucking say you’ll impeach him if we don’t 25th him today. Do not waffle like this.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5194 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-07 19:23:15
January 07 2021 19:21 GMT
#59494
Yeah Zambrah, elected officials of the United States of America shouldn't think theres a need for unity right now. What they should be thinking is to find a way to disenfranchise two ideologue demographies from each other and create a rift two create the Norhtern and Southers USA so everyone can live their lives in peace, finally!
What was Robert E Lee thinking by signing the cease fire agreement!?

It's like you guys want civil unrest or more. People can be scum, but people are misguided due to there being one too many platforms for the misguidance to intoxicate young people's minds.
Taxes are for Terrans
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
January 07 2021 19:21 GMT
#59495
On January 08 2021 04:19 plasmidghost wrote:
Fuck Pelosi and every other establishment Dem calling for unity with the GOP. These fascists and enablers want me dead and I refuse to "make peace" with them

As Neneu said, you can't banish the whole GOP. You need the appearance of both sides working together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
WorthlessSC
Profile Joined June 2011
United States17 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-07 19:24:50
January 07 2021 19:22 GMT
#59496
From what I'm seeing in the press conference, it sounds like she wants Pence and co to invoke the 25th. But it's worrisome that she didn't say they'd impeach if he doesn't do it quickly.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
January 07 2021 19:22 GMT
#59497
On January 08 2021 04:19 plasmidghost wrote:
Fuck Pelosi and every other establishment Dem calling for unity with the GOP. These fascists and enablers want me dead and I refuse to "make peace" with them


Its actually impossible to clean house as exclusively democrats. We need the sane part of the republicans who don't support the assault.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
January 07 2021 19:25 GMT
#59498
On January 08 2021 04:22 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2021 04:19 plasmidghost wrote:
Fuck Pelosi and every other establishment Dem calling for unity with the GOP. These fascists and enablers want me dead and I refuse to "make peace" with them


Its actually impossible to clean house as exclusively democrats. We need the sane part of the republicans who don't support the assault.


We need the sane ones but we cannot accept unity with them unless they’re willing to remove their most severely offending members.

Unity can mean a lot of things and when Democrats usually invoke it it never amounts to anything good.

Again, I hope I’m wrong, I hope it’s unity to remove the psychotic seditious congresspeople, but I cannot accept seeing unity with people like Ted fucking Cruz.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
January 07 2021 19:28 GMT
#59499
On January 08 2021 04:25 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2021 04:22 Mohdoo wrote:
On January 08 2021 04:19 plasmidghost wrote:
Fuck Pelosi and every other establishment Dem calling for unity with the GOP. These fascists and enablers want me dead and I refuse to "make peace" with them


Its actually impossible to clean house as exclusively democrats. We need the sane part of the republicans who don't support the assault.


We need the sane ones but we cannot accept unity with them unless they’re willing to remove their most severely offending members.

Unity can mean a lot of things and when Democrats usually invoke it it never amounts to anything good.

Again, I hope I’m wrong, I hope it’s unity to remove the psychotic seditious congresspeople, but I cannot accept seeing unity with people like Ted fucking Cruz.

What does it even mean to remove the severely offending members? You mean house/senate people voting against certifying the vote?

In my eyes, impeaching and removing Trump is the most important thing, but it would also be nice to remove everyone who objected.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46223 Posts
January 07 2021 19:30 GMT
#59500
On January 08 2021 04:22 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2021 04:19 plasmidghost wrote:
Fuck Pelosi and every other establishment Dem calling for unity with the GOP. These fascists and enablers want me dead and I refuse to "make peace" with them


Its actually impossible to clean house as exclusively democrats. We need the sane part of the republicans who don't support the assault.


Unfortunately, I don't know how we actually figure out who does and does not support the assault. Plenty of Republicans (leadership and constituents) have been standing unified behind Trump for years, and now some of them are pikachu-facing with shock at how this could have happened... they say that they don't support the assault, yet they absolutely do, because they supported Trump's rhetoric and actions for years. Tens of millions of people. The vast majority of the Republican party.

For me, personally, I draw the line at whether or not someone voted for Trump *a second time*. If you voted for him the first time, I think it's cringeworthy but maybe you just got conned hard. Fool you once, shame on Trump. But if four years of Trump didn't convince you to not vote for him in 2020, then shame on you. At that point, you're dead to me. And that happens to be nearly every single Republican who voted in this election. The "sane part", to me, is the set of Republicans who didn't vote for Trump in 2020. And that's a pretty small part.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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