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Shingi11
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15723 Posts
On January 08 2021 04:00 Shingi11 wrote: So Trump attempts a coup and fails and even after knowing that you still get some people in that are like "ya I still vote for him". Even better: All the people who were arm chair calling for insurrection and violent civil war are now saying "that was ANTIFA, not us". | ||
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Zambrah
United States7384 Posts
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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CuddlyCuteKitten
Sweden2649 Posts
On January 08 2021 03:53 Mohdoo wrote: One interesting component here is that if Trump is forcibly removed, it would mean he can't run again in 2024. It is likely hugely positive for Republicans if Trump is not a possibility. No way he is getting impeached unless they are 100 % certain they have republican votes. Otherwise they are just stupid. Having Trump both as a boogyman and tearing holes in the GOP is an incredible asset for 2024. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On January 08 2021 04:09 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote: No way he is getting impeached unless they are 100 % certain they have republican votes. Otherwise they are just stupid. Having Trump both as a boogyman and tearing holes in the GOP is an incredible asset for 2024. It's too much like having a live grenade in your hands. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7384 Posts
Unity is not what we fucking need. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
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(CNN)The mob of Trump supporters who stormed the US Capitol on Wednesday included conspiracy theorists linked to QAnon and the Proud Boys -- two right-wing extremist factions that President Donald Trump repeatedly refused to condemn during his election campaign last year. The insurrection at the heart of America's democracy, egged on by Trump's rhetoric, represented a stunning show of force for the fringe movements and their adherents. Four people were left dead during the mayhem, according to the Washington, D.C. Metropolitan Police Department, including one woman shot by a U.S. Capitol Police officer and three other people who had medical emergencies. One of the most recognizable figures in the videos and photos of the chaos on Capitol Hill was a man in his 30s with a painted face, fur hat and a helmet with horns. The protester, Jake Angeli -- known by followers as the QAnon Shaman -- quickly became a symbol of the bizarre and frightening spectacle as photos circulated of him roaming the Capitol halls holding an American flag affixed to a spear in one hand and a bullhorn in the other, and even standing shirtless atop the Senate dais. Source | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15723 Posts
On January 08 2021 04:15 Zambrah wrote: Nancy Pelosi invoking HeAlInG tHe SoUl Of OuR nAtIoN and uNiTy upsets me. Unity is not what we fucking need. Half of republicans support the assault on the capital. Half don't. The good half needs to unite with democrats to vanquish the beast. | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Zambrah
United States7384 Posts
On January 08 2021 04:18 Mohdoo wrote: Half of republicans support the assault on the capital. Half don't. The good half needs to unite with democrats to vanquish the beast. I hope she means it in a Stop Trump Way and not in the Let’s Be Nice to Shitty Republicans way, but I’m worried. EDIT: Pelosi refusing to commit to a timeline is pissing me off too, if you invoke Schumer then fucking say you’ll impeach him if we don’t 25th him today. Do not waffle like this. | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium4953 Posts
What was Robert E Lee thinking by signing the cease fire agreement!? It's like you guys want civil unrest or more. People can be scum, but people are misguided due to there being one too many platforms for the misguidance to intoxicate young people's minds. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On January 08 2021 04:19 plasmidghost wrote: Fuck Pelosi and every other establishment Dem calling for unity with the GOP. These fascists and enablers want me dead and I refuse to "make peace" with them As Neneu said, you can't banish the whole GOP. You need the appearance of both sides working together. | ||
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WorthlessSC
United States17 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15723 Posts
On January 08 2021 04:19 plasmidghost wrote: Fuck Pelosi and every other establishment Dem calling for unity with the GOP. These fascists and enablers want me dead and I refuse to "make peace" with them Its actually impossible to clean house as exclusively democrats. We need the sane part of the republicans who don't support the assault. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7384 Posts
On January 08 2021 04:22 Mohdoo wrote: Its actually impossible to clean house as exclusively democrats. We need the sane part of the republicans who don't support the assault. We need the sane ones but we cannot accept unity with them unless they’re willing to remove their most severely offending members. Unity can mean a lot of things and when Democrats usually invoke it it never amounts to anything good. Again, I hope I’m wrong, I hope it’s unity to remove the psychotic seditious congresspeople, but I cannot accept seeing unity with people like Ted fucking Cruz. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15723 Posts
On January 08 2021 04:25 Zambrah wrote: We need the sane ones but we cannot accept unity with them unless they’re willing to remove their most severely offending members. Unity can mean a lot of things and when Democrats usually invoke it it never amounts to anything good. Again, I hope I’m wrong, I hope it’s unity to remove the psychotic seditious congresspeople, but I cannot accept seeing unity with people like Ted fucking Cruz. What does it even mean to remove the severely offending members? You mean house/senate people voting against certifying the vote? In my eyes, impeaching and removing Trump is the most important thing, but it would also be nice to remove everyone who objected. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45024 Posts
On January 08 2021 04:22 Mohdoo wrote: Its actually impossible to clean house as exclusively democrats. We need the sane part of the republicans who don't support the assault. Unfortunately, I don't know how we actually figure out who does and does not support the assault. Plenty of Republicans (leadership and constituents) have been standing unified behind Trump for years, and now some of them are pikachu-facing with shock at how this could have happened... they say that they don't support the assault, yet they absolutely do, because they supported Trump's rhetoric and actions for years. Tens of millions of people. The vast majority of the Republican party. For me, personally, I draw the line at whether or not someone voted for Trump *a second time*. If you voted for him the first time, I think it's cringeworthy but maybe you just got conned hard. Fool you once, shame on Trump. But if four years of Trump didn't convince you to not vote for him in 2020, then shame on you. At that point, you're dead to me. And that happens to be nearly every single Republican who voted in this election. The "sane part", to me, is the set of Republicans who didn't vote for Trump in 2020. And that's a pretty small part. | ||
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