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This is very interesting. China saving the world from all the Trump shenanigans. And it's actually quite crazy how they did it and the implications of it.
Can't lie, this is a bit vindicating. That Europe and the rest of the world would end up relying on China to stand up to the US was inevitable. Unlikely to be enough to break them of their Stockholm syndrome though.
Where all you dumb assholes who kept calling the Russia investigation a "witch hunt" at?
I don’t think the smart ones challenged who Russia wanted to win and their influence towards that. It was whether the Trump campaign actively colluded with them. Two years answered that one.
Bold claim that there are smart ones.
The actual smart ones know Trump would have accepted and asked for any help he could. They are just OK with the cheating to win attitude.
I think it is once again time for the Gerhard Bronner quote.
"There are three things, that can't be united: intelligence, decency and national socialism. One can be intelligent and nazi. Then one has no decency. One can be decent and nazi. Then one is not intelligent. And one can be decent and intelligent. Then one is no nazi."
A similar thing can surely be said about MAGAs.
You can be smart and MAGA, then you are one of the grifters. You can be MAGA and not a grifter, then you are not smart. And you can be smart and not a grifter. Then you are not MAGA.
Well put. With maybe the exception of uniformed, there are plenty of people who pay no attention rather than the occasional joke or meme they see. But I wouldn’t consider those people MAGA per se.
On July 17 2026 06:23 Billyboy wrote: So wait, Trump is talking about the 2020 election tonight? WTF, I thought maybe the Iran war, or inflation, or even immigration, but no he still stuck on pretending he won?
How people support this selfish moron is beyond me.
I mean, yeah, it is somewhat funny that he seems to be stuck on that and that he just can't seem to deal with having lost that election, but on the other hand it is also his transparent excuse to fuck with future elections.
Because if that election was tampered with, surely we need more "protections" to prevent that from happening again. And since any result that isn't Trump winning is proof of election fraud, we need to put system ins place to make sure that Trump wins.
250,000 foreigners registered to vote in 4 states? That's pretty bad.
China getting 220 million US voter files? That's pretty bad.
Pattern of intelligence community bureaucrats quashing information and investigations from Senate-confirmed appointees of the President? Yeah we're not doing that again.
Amazingly states that are working together with the federal government got 400,000 dead people and 28,000 foreigners off their voter rolls. Meanwhile states that aren't interested in cooperating are busy spending all their money on drawings of high speed trains.
No, the idea there was no proof of fraud in the last 3 elections is an editorialized addition by the incompetent, or malicious, or schizophrenic journalist Malcolm Ferguson.
Solomon wasn't even talking about fraud. Solomon's statement was that it hasn't come out that a foreign power hacked/flipped votes. One of the releases yesterday is that certain systems are vulnerable to hacking. Do you guys understand that vulnerability is a problem per se, even if nobody has untraceably hacked and flipped votes in an election yet or not? One release is the Venezuelan regime at least had the capability at some level. Another release said China was printing industrial levels of fake IDs for voting schemes.
Foreign interference is what he was talking about, didn't use the word "fraud" at all which usually means home-grown domestic fraud and is something you used to think was simply vanishingly small, not zero, so it's an interesting move to cite a guy thinking he's saying it doesn't even exist at all.
If you nevertheless believe and want to stand behind the idea there is no proof of election fraud in the last three elections (even though it's not what he said), it's a respectable choice. It's a universal claim easily disproven by one counterexample.
If you want to say you actually meant something reasonable like "widespread" or "enough to affect elections" or "no proof" was just vibes and not supposed to be taken literally, next time choose words with care. NJ had a redo election for a seat in 2020 due to fraud: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/20/politics/paterson-new-jersey-city-council-voter-fraud
This is very interesting. China saving the world from all the Trump shenanigans. And it's actually quite crazy how they did it and the implications of it.
Can't lie, this is a bit vindicating. That Europe and the rest of the world would end up relying on China to stand up to the US was inevitable. Unlikely to be enough to break them of their Stockholm syndrome though.
It's not really vindicating. But it shows the weakness of the current world order. On one hand you have EU with their overreliance on US, which was based on trade deals and the fact everyone in the gang is a reliable partner. This all goes out the window once one party stops being reliable (US currently). China also did perhaps save the world and quietly at that which will give them a lot of soft power boons but at the same time they tipped their hand when it comes to their oil reliance, which was supposed to be their weakness but can actually be their strength in any conflict up to 1 year (potential invasion of Taiwan).
All in all China came out on top with all of this - they can say they saved the world and get good boi points with the world and at the same time avoid the delicate topic of invading Taiwan by telling their own people they need to rebuild their stockpile now before it happens because they had to save the world.
China big winner of Trump admin, US big loser on the global arena (and potentially domestically but we'll see where it ends).
I'm wondering, since it's kind of hard to navigate to the point(s) in the thread when this was happening, could you the elder statesmen tell me: Did oBlade always refuse to admit Biden won in 2020 or is this a new(ish) development as he descends further in depraving himself and becoming completely subsumed by Trump?
Canada is on fire, so it's time to tax the American citizens more.
Next thing you know he'll banging on about this is why the US ought to annex Canada as the 51st state. He's looping.
As if he would be willing to put in the resources to stop or prevent all the forest fires of northern Canada. He would be denying us emergency funding because we wouldn't vote MAGA just like the other Democrat states that he has been denying emergency funding. Even if we were the 51st State we would not be the favoured sons of Trump to receive that kind of attention. Partisan hack.
Troy Jackson confirmed to be Graham Platner's replacement for the U.S. Senate race in Maine, he's both the most leftwing candidate and polling the best against Susan Collins.
Tate brothers arrested in Florida to be extradited to the UK again.
On July 11 2026 05:49 LightSpectra wrote: You ever talk to a fundamentalist Christian that fervently believes atheism and homosexuality don't actually exist, atheists secretly do believe in God and gay people are secretly straight, they just "behave that way" out of spite? That's what this conversation reminds me of.
Homophobes are gayer than Freddie Mercury in drag singing YMCA. They are miserable little people who are to afraid to even challenge authority in their fantasy.
On July 19 2026 09:51 LightSpectra wrote: Troy Jackson confirmed to be Graham Platner's replacement for the U.S. Senate race in Maine, he's both the most leftwing candidate and polling the best against Susan Collins.
Tate brothers arrested in Florida to be extradited to the UK again.
Jackson's political history and stances seem pretty docile and somewhat progressive, from 2016 onwards being a serious Bernie Sanders fan (with Sanders reciprocating by recently supporting Jackson): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Jackson_(politician)
It looks like Jackson's most controversial take, from 17 years ago which he eventually changed his position on, was: "Early in his legislative career, Jackson held socially conservative positions on LGBTQ rights. In May 2009, Jackson voted against a state legislative bill to legalize same-sex marriage in Maine. He attributed his anti-LGBTQ stances to his Roman Catholic upbringing.[7] He eventually changed his stance on LGBTQ civil rights. In his 2026 Senate campaign, Jackson ran on strengthening anti-discrimination laws to protect LGBTQ citizens.[53]"
Spotted a random Youtube video a while ago that might go well here.
It talks about the fight against Malaria (by a non-profit that works on the topic) and how US politics has been a large factor in how that has gone.
Towards the end they talk about USAID and European aid decreasing which they assume will cause a large backslide on the topic but is hard to prove this soon afterwards.
On July 19 2026 22:34 LightSpectra wrote: It would be hypocritical of me to condemn Troy Jackson for that since I myself was a homophobe (and also unwittingly closeted) in 2009.
That seems fair, so long as Jackson’s views have genuinely changed and aren’t for expediency’s sake
If one doesn’t give people the benefit of the doubt if they try earnestly to grow, I mean where’s the incentive to?
I know younger me had some pretty shitty views for sure, and even now I still struggle to overcome biases that are heavily ingrained
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