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LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2880 Posts
2 hours ago
#117261
John Solomon, a member of Trump’s election task force, confessed that there is no proof of election fraud in the last three elections: https://newrepublic.com/post/213185/trump-election-fraud-guy-john-solomon-found-no-proof
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17793 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-17 14:11:07
2 hours ago
#117262


This is very interesting. China saving the world from all the Trump shenanigans. And it's actually quite crazy how they did it and the implications of it.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18375 Posts
1 hour ago
#117263
On July 17 2026 17:35 oBlade wrote:
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On July 17 2026 16:52 Acrofales wrote:
On July 17 2026 16:24 oBlade wrote:
On July 17 2026 06:37 Simberto wrote:
On July 17 2026 06:23 Billyboy wrote:
So wait, Trump is talking about the 2020 election tonight? WTF, I thought maybe the Iran war, or inflation, or even immigration, but no he still stuck on pretending he won?

How people support this selfish moron is beyond me.


I mean, yeah, it is somewhat funny that he seems to be stuck on that and that he just can't seem to deal with having lost that election, but on the other hand it is also his transparent excuse to fuck with future elections.

Because if that election was tampered with, surely we need more "protections" to prevent that from happening again. And since any result that isn't Trump winning is proof of election fraud, we need to put system ins place to make sure that Trump wins.

250,000 foreigners registered to vote in 4 states? That's pretty bad.

China getting 220 million US voter files? That's pretty bad.

Pattern of intelligence community bureaucrats quashing information and investigations from Senate-confirmed appointees of the President? Yeah we're not doing that again.

Amazingly states that are working together with the federal government got 400,000 dead people and 28,000 foreigners off their voter rolls. Meanwhile states that aren't interested in cooperating are busy spending all their money on drawings of high speed trains.


Like clockwork. Repeating Trump's baseless drivel. Here, have a link debunking it: https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20260717-fact-check-trump-s-primetime-speech-rehashing-election-claims

Your link doesn't seem to debunk dead and foreigners on voter rolls.

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On July 17 2026 16:24 oBlade wrote:
250,000 foreigners registered to vote in 4 states? That's pretty bad.

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Noncitizen voters
Trump claimed hundreds of thousands of non-citizens were registered to vote.

Non-citizen voting is illegal and has been shown by both election audits and independent research to be exceedingly rare. Several safeguards prevent non-citizens from voting.

Is this a joke? Someone in Spain is linking a newspaper in France that says "we think foreigners in the US don't vote very often" as a response to the fact of there being hundreds of thousands of dead and foreigners registered to vote.

"Voter roll" means "list of people who can vote." It's different than "list of people who voted in a given election." Is that what you misunderstood? Otherwise your response doesn't make sense.

"It's illegal for noncitizens to vote" is a pretty clueless rebuttal to the fact that there are foreigners registered to vote, because noncitizens registering to vote IS ALSO ALREADY ILLEGAL. Not a confidence-inspiring piece of propaganda.

Worried about foreigners voting? Don't worry, it's illegal!
Ah, they won't vote because it's illegal, but so it was legal for them to register, then?
No, that was illegal too.
...

Being registered is the problem. Your newspaper which quotes a blog seems to be debunking a different claim you imagined I said, like "These dead and foreigner votes flipped a specific election," which you have a Pavlovian response for. Find someone claiming that and debunk them.

I linked an AFP article because I figured you'd prefer it over left-wing propaganda rags like www.reuters.com, PBS or www.cbsnews.com. But sure, my bad. Next time I'll make sure to stick to AMUHRICAN sources for you! Doesn't change the fact that everything you said is thoroughly debunked.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2880 Posts
49 minutes ago
#117264
Document Declassified by Trump Reveals Russia Tried To Help Him Win the 2020 Election: https://www.mediaite.com/politics/trump/document-declassified-by-trump-reveals-russia-tried-to-help-him-win-the-2020-election/

Where all you dumb assholes who kept calling the Russia investigation a "witch hunt" at?
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dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States515 Posts
48 minutes ago
#117265
On July 17 2026 23:10 Manit0u wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkA0bkb6ZO0

This is very interesting. China saving the world from all the Trump shenanigans. And it's actually quite crazy how they did it and the implications of it.
He’s a little too much of a special pleader and downplays or lightly touches on counter arguments. It would benefit from releasing a second episode with an economist guest actually challenging the host on facts and suppositions. The podcast/youtube problem is that the host cherry-picks the selection of what information to display and how seriously or lightly it addresses competing theories.
dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States515 Posts
44 minutes ago
#117266
On July 18 2026 00:42 LightSpectra wrote:
Document Declassified by Trump Reveals Russia Tried To Help Him Win the 2020 Election: https://www.mediaite.com/politics/trump/document-declassified-by-trump-reveals-russia-tried-to-help-him-win-the-2020-election/

Where all you dumb assholes who kept calling the Russia investigation a "witch hunt" at?
I don’t think the smart ones challenged who Russia wanted to win and their influence towards that. It was whether the Trump campaign actively colluded with them. Two years answered that one.
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2020 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-17 15:59:09
34 minutes ago
#117267
On July 18 2026 00:48 dyhb wrote:
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On July 18 2026 00:42 LightSpectra wrote:
Document Declassified by Trump Reveals Russia Tried To Help Him Win the 2020 Election: https://www.mediaite.com/politics/trump/document-declassified-by-trump-reveals-russia-tried-to-help-him-win-the-2020-election/

Where all you dumb assholes who kept calling the Russia investigation a "witch hunt" at?
I don’t think the smart ones challenged who Russia wanted to win and their influence towards that. It was whether the Trump campaign actively colluded with them. Two years answered that one.

Bold claim that there are smart ones.

The actual smart ones know Trump would have accepted and asked for any help he could. They are just OK with the cheating to win attitude.
dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States515 Posts
2 minutes ago
#117268
On July 18 2026 00:58 Billyboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2026 00:48 dyhb wrote:
On July 18 2026 00:42 LightSpectra wrote:
Document Declassified by Trump Reveals Russia Tried To Help Him Win the 2020 Election: https://www.mediaite.com/politics/trump/document-declassified-by-trump-reveals-russia-tried-to-help-him-win-the-2020-election/

Where all you dumb assholes who kept calling the Russia investigation a "witch hunt" at?
I don’t think the smart ones challenged who Russia wanted to win and their influence towards that. It was whether the Trump campaign actively colluded with them. Two years answered that one.

Bold claim that there are smart ones.

The actual smart ones know Trump would have accepted and asked for any help he could. They are just OK with the cheating to win attitude.
The trouble with the “would have” in a legal context is that we don’t say somebody committed adultery if you’re just very sure he would have if there was a better opportunity.

The dumb view is that Russia didn’t have a favorite and didn’t exert covert and overt influence to get their preferred election outcome. Thats dumb on so many levels. Everyone knows the preferred pick on both sides. We allow foreign activists to volunteer for domestic campaigns … Labour did it for Clinton and Kamala … Farage did it for Trump … public statements and convention envoys from PES/Greens. The smarter, relative term, is whether there was actually collusion or criminal conspiracy.

Obviously don’t look for nuance on that topic if the person thinks Trump won 2020 or tariffs will grow revenue without causing inflation.
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