On October 12 2012 04:45 zalz wrote: Just because you can't handle a display of sexuality doesn't mean other people have to save your feelings.
Oke, so you aren't comfortable with a gay parade. What part of the world is it where the government puts a gun in your neck and forces you to go there?
I don't like communists rallying, doesn't mean they should be denied the right to do so.
Where exactly do you get off making the leap from:
"I am uncomfortable with sex"
too
"Other people must live life the way I dictate"
When was the last time you saw a straight pride parade? No? Because straight people never felt the need to feel special.
If LGBTs want to be treated like everyone else they should start doing so themselves. There are far better ways to raise awareness nowadays with the internet and all.
You don't see straight pride parades because people aren't assaulted and murdered for being straight, and they don't have to fight for more rights to openly express their heterosexuality. I'm sorry, but that's a stupid argument.
There are far better ways to raise awareness nowadays
SOME displays of sexuality should in general not happen in (too) public areas. I don't want to see random people fucking on the streets, and i think most people agree with that. It does not matter if they are gay or not. However, this is not what this is about. If we talk about holding hands or kissing, i don't see a problem.
And why would one outlaw gay pride parades? That sounds ridiculous. What is so much worse about gay people parading that they like to be gay when compared to for example techno guys parading around playing insanely loud techno? The latter is probably more annoying if you live close to it. And if it is more of a political demonstration, don't people have a right to demonstrate about basically anything? If Nazis are allowed to demonstrate, outlawing gay demonstrations is just plain wrong.
On October 12 2012 04:45 whatevername wrote: Its kinda amusing that the most 'liberal' [generally actually social democrats] members of our society are exactly the ones peddling this retarded notion that you have a right not to be offended, which such a notion is entirely abused by radical muslims, xenophobes etc-- basically illiberal types.
I don't know where you are from but thats literally the opposite of the truth in the case of canda and usa.
Yeah except no. Liberals in Canada advocate human rights councils, literally have banned people from publishing articles because they said something 'hateful' i.e offensive. Democrats in America are constantly bitching that we should be respectful and tolerant. Sure, they arent arguing for legal restrictions but they are culturally enshrining the notion that we shouldnt offend anyone.
Your argument has little to do with what we're talking about here. If you want to talk about oversensitivity in America, that's fine, but we're talking about what's going on in the Ukraine.
On October 12 2012 03:55 Wrath 2.1 wrote: that's good. Sex life should be something private and not something that needs advertising or parades.
That's good? How in the hell is that good? Gay pride parades being cancelled because of threats of violence, people not being able to show affection to their loved one because of fear of persecution/prosecution, outlawing of homosexuality in media? Explain to me where in this there is any good? I'll be waiting.
Sex life may not need advertising or parades, but equality sure as shit does.
The problem is the misconception that all gays are like the annoying vocal minority that wants to shove their sexuality in your face and be seen as "special" for it. That minority is ruining it for the rest, the way I see it, which is awful...
I'm not sure that it has as much to do with that as it has to do with bigotry, I'm sorry. People have every right to want the freedom to express themselves, and if they do that by expressing their sexuality, then so be it. It's not like homosexuals are going door to door trying to convert people. And what's the problem with them wanting to be seen as special?
Well my point is more that it won't stop it from annoying some people, and these are the VOCAL minority. A lot of people think they speak for the entire group, but they don't.
I think we disagree on the other point though. I see sex as something special that you keep to yourself; something that lets you bond with someone you trust and who is important to you. It's nobody's business what happens in your sex life; nobody's but your own.
The problem with being seen as special for it is that it can (it won't always) lead to feelings of superiority. I don't think gays should get special treatment or attention or privileges at all...just treat them like anyone else.
TLDR - "I only care about someone's sexuality when I'm trying to have sex with that person!"
Edit: What you said about how gays don't go door to door trying to convert people reminded me of this... (Warning: Language.)
And when positive portrayals of homosexuality are banned, don't you think it will lead to feelings of superiority amongst heterosexuals?
And as far as keeping sex to yourself, I'm all for that too, but that has nothing to do with banning positive portrayals of homosexuality in media. We aren't talking about some guy you work with who brags about all the dick he gets (which, mind you, is no different from the guy you work with brags about all the girls he gets), we're talking about movies depicting homosexuals positively being banned. That's just outright wrong and I don't see how you can defend that, as you have yet to do so other than to cop out with "oh, well, I don't like to hear about other people's sex lives'.
And you're just proving my point with your last statement, homosexuals should receive the same rights as everyone else. If we're allowed to portray heterosexual relationships in a positive light, then we should allow it for homosexuals as well. If heterosexuals are allowed to kiss in public, homosexuals should be as well. And to outlaw any sort of protest/pride marches is just totally outrageous. Like someone else said, if you support this concept, than it must go both ways, and that is totally medieval to me.
I think you missed my point. It does go both ways, but kissing or holding hands isn't sex...so why would I care? Answer: I don't. I don't care about what happens in movies or books because someone can choose not to watch a movie or not to read a book...the only part where we disagree is the pride marches. (I mean imagine what would ensue if someone organized a straight pride march - talk about double standard, and that's just one problem!)
But little things like kissing...no. Those shouldn't be banned. I never said they should, nor will I ever.
People have every right to a straight pride parade. The fact is, most homosexuals have to endure the fear of being alienated from their family, being verbally and physically assaulted, and many other things that heterosexuals don't have to go through based on their sexuality. For some, the pride marches are to show that they aren't alone and that together they can stand up to inequality.
And as far as your stance on everything else, sorry if I missed you saying that you are against the banning of media, etc.
That's okay, and I'm glad you think that way, but I know for sure other people would twist a "straight pride parade" into an "anti-gay parade"...and I hate double standards. This is why we can't have nice things. D:
On October 12 2012 04:45 zalz wrote: Just because you can't handle a display of sexuality doesn't mean other people have to save your feelings.
Oke, so you aren't comfortable with a gay parade. What part of the world is it where the government puts a gun in your neck and forces you to go there?
I don't like communists rallying, doesn't mean they should be denied the right to do so.
Where exactly do you get off making the leap from:
"I am uncomfortable with sex"
too
"Other people must live life the way I dictate"
When was the last time you saw a straight pride parade? No? Because straight people never felt the need to feel special.
If LGBTs want to be treated like everyone else they should start doing so themselves. There are far better ways to raise awareness nowadays with the internet and all.
You don't see straight pride parades because people aren't assaulted and murdered for being straight, and they don't have to fight for more rights to openly express their heterosexuality. I'm sorry, but that's a stupid argument.
There are far better ways to raise awareness nowadays
Who are you to decide that? They're not hurting anybody and they should have the right to assembly and protest just like everyone else.
And what the fuck is up with everyone saying "they want to be/feel special". This is just bigotry, flat out. People are fighting for the same rights as everyone else. That's like saying that African Americans in the 60's just wanted to eat in the same restaurants as whites so they could "feel special". Give me a fucking break.
On October 12 2012 04:45 zalz wrote: Just because you can't handle a display of sexuality doesn't mean other people have to save your feelings.
Oke, so you aren't comfortable with a gay parade. What part of the world is it where the government puts a gun in your neck and forces you to go there?
I don't like communists rallying, doesn't mean they should be denied the right to do so.
Where exactly do you get off making the leap from:
"I am uncomfortable with sex"
too
"Other people must live life the way I dictate"
When was the last time you saw a straight pride parade? No? Because straight people never felt the need to feel special.
If LGBTs want to be treated like everyone else they should start doing so themselves. There are far better ways to raise awareness nowadays with the internet and all.
Really? I see straight pride parades all the time. Every chick flick, frat party, valentine's day, wedding ceremony, club, sitcom, and advertisement is a celebration of heteronormativity (i.e. a straight pride parade).
Chick flick, sitcoms and ads - in my previous post I said banning gayness in films and media goes too far
Valentine's day - When was this a only heterosexual thing? Thanks corporate America
Weddings and clubs - Personally I'm pro-gay marriage, but the difference between these and parades is that club events don't block my fucking road.
On October 12 2012 04:45 zalz wrote: Just because you can't handle a display of sexuality doesn't mean other people have to save your feelings.
Oke, so you aren't comfortable with a gay parade. What part of the world is it where the government puts a gun in your neck and forces you to go there?
I don't like communists rallying, doesn't mean they should be denied the right to do so.
Where exactly do you get off making the leap from:
"I am uncomfortable with sex"
too
"Other people must live life the way I dictate"
When was the last time you saw a straight pride parade? No? Because straight people never felt the need to feel special.
If LGBTs want to be treated like everyone else they should start doing so themselves. There are far better ways to raise awareness nowadays with the internet and all.
You don't see straight pride parades because people aren't assaulted and murdered for being straight, and they don't have to fight for more rights to openly express their heterosexuality. I'm sorry, but that's a stupid argument.
There are far better ways to raise awareness nowadays
Who are you to decide that? They're not hurting anybody and they should have the right to assembly and protest just like everyone else.
And what the fuck is up with everyone saying "they want to be/feel special". This is just bigotry, flat out. People are fighting for the same rights as everyone else. That's like saying that African Americans in the 60's just wanted to eat in the same restaurants as whites so they could "feel special". Give me a fucking break.
Think we'll just agree to disagree here.
To clarify more on my personal stance, I find pretty much most demonstrations / parades fucking annoying. No bigotry intended.
On October 12 2012 04:45 zalz wrote: Just because you can't handle a display of sexuality doesn't mean other people have to save your feelings.
Oke, so you aren't comfortable with a gay parade. What part of the world is it where the government puts a gun in your neck and forces you to go there?
I don't like communists rallying, doesn't mean they should be denied the right to do so.
Where exactly do you get off making the leap from:
"I am uncomfortable with sex"
too
"Other people must live life the way I dictate"
When was the last time you saw a straight pride parade? No? Because straight people never felt the need to feel special.
If LGBTs want to be treated like everyone else they should start doing so themselves. There are far better ways to raise awareness nowadays with the internet and all.
You don't see straight pride parades because people aren't assaulted and murdered for being straight, and they don't have to fight for more rights to openly express their heterosexuality. I'm sorry, but that's a stupid argument.
There are far better ways to raise awareness nowadays
Who are you to decide that? They're not hurting anybody and they should have the right to assembly and protest just like everyone else.
And what the fuck is up with everyone saying "they want to be/feel special". This is just bigotry, flat out. People are fighting for the same rights as everyone else. That's like saying that African Americans in the 60's just wanted to eat in the same restaurants as whites so they could "feel special". Give me a fucking break.
Think we'll just agree to disagree here.
To clarify more on my personal stance, I find pretty much most demonstrations / parades fucking annoying. No bigotry intended.
I understand your point about parades and demonstrations being annoying, and that they can mess up your routine. But it's not like they're spur of the moment things. They are planned months in advance and if a road is going to be shut down, then there will be signs letting you know beforehand. If you don't plan around it that's on you. And I'm not saying it's bigotry to be against those sorts of demonstrations (although I really, really, really disagree with you), I'm saying it's bigotry to disregard pride marches and other demonstrations as homosexuals "wanting to feel special".
On October 12 2012 04:45 zalz wrote: Just because you can't handle a display of sexuality doesn't mean other people have to save your feelings.
Oke, so you aren't comfortable with a gay parade. What part of the world is it where the government puts a gun in your neck and forces you to go there?
I don't like communists rallying, doesn't mean they should be denied the right to do so.
Where exactly do you get off making the leap from:
"I am uncomfortable with sex"
too
"Other people must live life the way I dictate"
When was the last time you saw a straight pride parade? No? Because straight people never felt the need to feel special.
If LGBTs want to be treated like everyone else they should start doing so themselves. There are far better ways to raise awareness nowadays with the internet and all.
Really? I see straight pride parades all the time. Every chick flick, frat party, valentine's day, wedding ceremony, club, sitcom, and advertisement is a celebration of heteronormativity (i.e. a straight pride parade).
Chick flick, sitcoms and ads - in my previous post I said banning gayness in films and media goes too far
Valentine's day - When was this a only heterosexual thing? Thanks corporate America
Weddings and clubs - Personally I'm pro-gay marriage, but the difference between these and parades is that club events don't block my fucking road.
My point is that there are no straight pride parades because you don't need them. When have you ever been ashamed of being straight? Heterosexuality is the default. Society caters to it. You don't need to publicly identify your orientation because everyone just assumes it. Gay pride is really about identifying to other gay people that they aren't alone and they don't need to be ashamed of not being the default orientation.
On October 12 2012 04:45 zalz wrote: Just because you can't handle a display of sexuality doesn't mean other people have to save your feelings.
Oke, so you aren't comfortable with a gay parade. What part of the world is it where the government puts a gun in your neck and forces you to go there?
I don't like communists rallying, doesn't mean they should be denied the right to do so.
Where exactly do you get off making the leap from:
"I am uncomfortable with sex"
too
"Other people must live life the way I dictate"
When was the last time you saw a straight pride parade? No? Because straight people never felt the need to feel special.
If LGBTs want to be treated like everyone else they should start doing so themselves. There are far better ways to raise awareness nowadays with the internet and all.
You don't see straight pride parades because people aren't assaulted and murdered for being straight, and they don't have to fight for more rights to openly express their heterosexuality. I'm sorry, but that's a stupid argument.
There are far better ways to raise awareness nowadays
Who are you to decide that? They're not hurting anybody and they should have the right to assembly and protest just like everyone else.
True. However, there have been times where things get out of control sexually and I am vividly reminded of those street fairs which really, REALLY should take place inside. Maybe I'm biased because I find it offensive on a personal level that to some people sex isn't sacred, but it's not like I have the right to change their minds on that...just please keep it where other people who might not want to see it won't see it? I don't think it's really too much to ask but of course whenever I bring this up to anyone, I get slammed as being "anti-gay" or...something.
Edit: To address your edit, yes, some people in the LGBT crowd do think they're "special" like that (being one of that crowd, I know some personally) but it's a vocal minority that gives the whole group a bad image, and that is not fair to anyone.
So the article doesn't say. . .does this have any shot of actually going through? That would be ridiculous.
As something of a side point, I always find the "Hurr durr they're shoving their sexuality in our face!!" nonsense amusing when it comes to homosexuality. Turn on your TV and watch some adverts and tell me heterosexuality isn't being "shoved down your throat" to a far greater degree, and that's just the start of it.
On October 12 2012 04:45 zalz wrote: Just because you can't handle a display of sexuality doesn't mean other people have to save your feelings.
Oke, so you aren't comfortable with a gay parade. What part of the world is it where the government puts a gun in your neck and forces you to go there?
I don't like communists rallying, doesn't mean they should be denied the right to do so.
Where exactly do you get off making the leap from:
"I am uncomfortable with sex"
too
"Other people must live life the way I dictate"
When was the last time you saw a straight pride parade? No? Because straight people never felt the need to feel special.
If LGBTs want to be treated like everyone else they should start doing so themselves. There are far better ways to raise awareness nowadays with the internet and all.
You don't see straight pride parades because people aren't assaulted and murdered for being straight, and they don't have to fight for more rights to openly express their heterosexuality. I'm sorry, but that's a stupid argument.
There are far better ways to raise awareness nowadays
Who are you to decide that? They're not hurting anybody and they should have the right to assembly and protest just like everyone else.
True. However, there have been times where things get out of control sexually and I am vividly reminded of those street fairs which really, REALLY should take place inside. Maybe I'm biased because I find it offensive on a personal level that to some people sex isn't sacred, but it's not like I have the right to change their minds on that...just please keep it where other people who might not want to see it won't see it? I don't think it's really too much to ask but of course whenever I bring this up to anyone, I get slammed as being "anti-gay" or...something.
I'm offended that people believe in gods and what not. I think religious conventions be forced to be indoors only. See where I'm going?
On October 12 2012 04:45 zalz wrote: Just because you can't handle a display of sexuality doesn't mean other people have to save your feelings.
Oke, so you aren't comfortable with a gay parade. What part of the world is it where the government puts a gun in your neck and forces you to go there?
I don't like communists rallying, doesn't mean they should be denied the right to do so.
Where exactly do you get off making the leap from:
"I am uncomfortable with sex"
too
"Other people must live life the way I dictate"
When was the last time you saw a straight pride parade? No? Because straight people never felt the need to feel special.
If LGBTs want to be treated like everyone else they should start doing so themselves. There are far better ways to raise awareness nowadays with the internet and all.
You don't see straight pride parades because people aren't assaulted and murdered for being straight, and they don't have to fight for more rights to openly express their heterosexuality. I'm sorry, but that's a stupid argument.
There are far better ways to raise awareness nowadays
Who are you to decide that? They're not hurting anybody and they should have the right to assembly and protest just like everyone else.
True. However, there have been times where things get out of control sexually and I am vividly reminded of those street fairs which really, REALLY should take place inside. Maybe I'm biased because I find it offensive on a personal level that to some people sex isn't sacred, but it's not like I have the right to change their minds on that...just please keep it where other people who might not want to see it won't see it? I don't think it's really too much to ask but of course whenever I bring this up to anyone, I get slammed as being "anti-gay" or...something.
I'm offended that people believe in gods and what not. I think religious conventions be forced to be indoors only. See where I'm going?
On October 12 2012 04:45 zalz wrote: Just because you can't handle a display of sexuality doesn't mean other people have to save your feelings.
Oke, so you aren't comfortable with a gay parade. What part of the world is it where the government puts a gun in your neck and forces you to go there?
I don't like communists rallying, doesn't mean they should be denied the right to do so.
Where exactly do you get off making the leap from:
"I am uncomfortable with sex"
too
"Other people must live life the way I dictate"
When was the last time you saw a straight pride parade? No? Because straight people never felt the need to feel special.
If LGBTs want to be treated like everyone else they should start doing so themselves. There are far better ways to raise awareness nowadays with the internet and all.
You don't see straight pride parades because people aren't assaulted and murdered for being straight, and they don't have to fight for more rights to openly express their heterosexuality. I'm sorry, but that's a stupid argument.
There are far better ways to raise awareness nowadays
Who are you to decide that? They're not hurting anybody and they should have the right to assembly and protest just like everyone else.
True. However, there have been times where things get out of control sexually and I am vividly reminded of those street fairs which really, REALLY should take place inside. Maybe I'm biased because I find it offensive on a personal level that to some people sex isn't sacred, but it's not like I have the right to change their minds on that...just please keep it where other people who might not want to see it won't see it? I don't think it's really too much to ask but of course whenever I bring this up to anyone, I get slammed as being "anti-gay" or...something.
I'm offended that people believe in gods and what not. I think religious conventions be forced to be indoors only. See where I'm going?
On October 12 2012 04:45 zalz wrote: Just because you can't handle a display of sexuality doesn't mean other people have to save your feelings.
Oke, so you aren't comfortable with a gay parade. What part of the world is it where the government puts a gun in your neck and forces you to go there?
I don't like communists rallying, doesn't mean they should be denied the right to do so.
Where exactly do you get off making the leap from:
"I am uncomfortable with sex"
too
"Other people must live life the way I dictate"
When was the last time you saw a straight pride parade? No? Because straight people never felt the need to feel special.
If LGBTs want to be treated like everyone else they should start doing so themselves. There are far better ways to raise awareness nowadays with the internet and all.
You don't see straight pride parades because people aren't assaulted and murdered for being straight, and they don't have to fight for more rights to openly express their heterosexuality. I'm sorry, but that's a stupid argument.
There are far better ways to raise awareness nowadays
Who are you to decide that? They're not hurting anybody and they should have the right to assembly and protest just like everyone else.
True. However, there have been times where things get out of control sexually and I am vividly reminded of those street fairs which really, REALLY should take place inside. Maybe I'm biased because I find it offensive on a personal level that to some people sex isn't sacred, but it's not like I have the right to change their minds on that...just please keep it where other people who might not want to see it won't see it? I don't think it's really too much to ask but of course whenever I bring this up to anyone, I get slammed as being "anti-gay" or...something.
I'm offended that people believe in gods and what not. I think religious conventions be forced to be indoors only. See where I'm going?
On October 12 2012 04:45 zalz wrote: Just because you can't handle a display of sexuality doesn't mean other people have to save your feelings.
Oke, so you aren't comfortable with a gay parade. What part of the world is it where the government puts a gun in your neck and forces you to go there?
I don't like communists rallying, doesn't mean they should be denied the right to do so.
Where exactly do you get off making the leap from:
"I am uncomfortable with sex"
too
"Other people must live life the way I dictate"
When was the last time you saw a straight pride parade? No? Because straight people never felt the need to feel special.
If LGBTs want to be treated like everyone else they should start doing so themselves. There are far better ways to raise awareness nowadays with the internet and all.
You don't see straight pride parades because people aren't assaulted and murdered for being straight, and they don't have to fight for more rights to openly express their heterosexuality. I'm sorry, but that's a stupid argument.
There are far better ways to raise awareness nowadays
Who are you to decide that? They're not hurting anybody and they should have the right to assembly and protest just like everyone else.
True. However, there have been times where things get out of control sexually and I am vividly reminded of those street fairs which really, REALLY should take place inside. Maybe I'm biased because I find it offensive on a personal level that to some people sex isn't sacred, but it's not like I have the right to change their minds on that...just please keep it where other people who might not want to see it won't see it? I don't think it's really too much to ask but of course whenever I bring this up to anyone, I get slammed as being "anti-gay" or...something.
I'm offended that people believe in gods and what not. I think religious conventions be forced to be indoors only. See where I'm going?
No, because a lot of them already are indoors...
Pretty sure most sex is too so the analogy holds just fine.
Do you think all religion should be forced to only be indoors?
On October 12 2012 04:45 zalz wrote: Just because you can't handle a display of sexuality doesn't mean other people have to save your feelings.
Oke, so you aren't comfortable with a gay parade. What part of the world is it where the government puts a gun in your neck and forces you to go there?
I don't like communists rallying, doesn't mean they should be denied the right to do so.
Where exactly do you get off making the leap from:
"I am uncomfortable with sex"
too
"Other people must live life the way I dictate"
When was the last time you saw a straight pride parade? No? Because straight people never felt the need to feel special.
If LGBTs want to be treated like everyone else they should start doing so themselves. There are far better ways to raise awareness nowadays with the internet and all.
You don't see straight pride parades because people aren't assaulted and murdered for being straight, and they don't have to fight for more rights to openly express their heterosexuality. I'm sorry, but that's a stupid argument.
There are far better ways to raise awareness nowadays
Who are you to decide that? They're not hurting anybody and they should have the right to assembly and protest just like everyone else.
True. However, there have been times where things get out of control sexually and I am vividly reminded of those street fairs which really, REALLY should take place inside. Maybe I'm biased because I find it offensive on a personal level that to some people sex isn't sacred, but it's not like I have the right to change their minds on that...just please keep it where other people who might not want to see it won't see it? I don't think it's really too much to ask but of course whenever I bring this up to anyone, I get slammed as being "anti-gay" or...something.
Edit: To address your edit, yes, some people in the LGBT crowd do think they're "special" like that (being one of that crowd, I know some personally) but it's a vocal minority that gives the whole group a bad image, and that is not fair to anyone.
Public indecency laws already apply to everyone, I'm not sure what additional measures you'd like to see implemented.
On October 12 2012 04:45 whatevername wrote: Its kinda amusing that the most 'liberal' [generally actually social democrats] members of our society are exactly the ones peddling this retarded notion that you have a right not to be offended, which such a notion is entirely abused by radical muslims, xenophobes etc-- basically illiberal types.
I don't know where you are from but thats literally the opposite of the truth in the case of canda and usa.
Yeah except no. Liberals in Canada advocate human rights councils, literally have banned people from publishing articles because they said something 'hateful' i.e offensive. Democrats in America are constantly bitching that we should be respectful and tolerant. Sure, they arent arguing for legal restrictions but they are culturally enshrining the notion that we shouldnt offend anyone.
Bolded part 100% nullifies your argument. It is not relevant even in the most remote of details that they are "constantly bitching."
On October 12 2012 04:45 zalz wrote: Just because you can't handle a display of sexuality doesn't mean other people have to save your feelings.
Oke, so you aren't comfortable with a gay parade. What part of the world is it where the government puts a gun in your neck and forces you to go there?
I don't like communists rallying, doesn't mean they should be denied the right to do so.
Where exactly do you get off making the leap from:
"I am uncomfortable with sex"
too
"Other people must live life the way I dictate"
When was the last time you saw a straight pride parade? No? Because straight people never felt the need to feel special.
If LGBTs want to be treated like everyone else they should start doing so themselves. There are far better ways to raise awareness nowadays with the internet and all.
You don't see straight pride parades because people aren't assaulted and murdered for being straight, and they don't have to fight for more rights to openly express their heterosexuality. I'm sorry, but that's a stupid argument.
There are far better ways to raise awareness nowadays
Who are you to decide that? They're not hurting anybody and they should have the right to assembly and protest just like everyone else.
True. However, there have been times where things get out of control sexually and I am vividly reminded of those street fairs which really, REALLY should take place inside. Maybe I'm biased because I find it offensive on a personal level that to some people sex isn't sacred, but it's not like I have the right to change their minds on that...just please keep it where other people who might not want to see it won't see it? I don't think it's really too much to ask but of course whenever I bring this up to anyone, I get slammed as being "anti-gay" or...something.
I'm offended that people believe in gods and what not. I think religious conventions be forced to be indoors only. See where I'm going?
No, because a lot of them already are indoors...
Pretty sure most sex is too so the analogy holds just fine.
Do you think all religion should be forced to only be indoors?
Maybe you guys didn't get what I was specifically referring to. I wasn't sure it was so good to bring it up here...
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