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On October 12 2012 05:20 tMomiji wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 05:18 Djzapz wrote:On October 12 2012 05:17 heliusx wrote:On October 12 2012 05:16 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Why is arresting people for having sex in public a good thing? Suppose I think sex in public is good and should be allowed, and you are imposing your discomfort on me. Please tell me you are joking... What's wrong with the thing he said? What's so scary about people shagging? Well, I don't think most people want to see people dry-humping or fingering each other or practicing bondage when they walk out their front door...at least, I mean, I really wouldn't.
I demand that my right to observe scissoring in public be protected. So says my version of social contract theory.
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On October 12 2012 05:18 jdseemoreglass wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 05:17 heliusx wrote:On October 12 2012 05:16 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Why is arresting people for having sex in public a good thing? Suppose I think sex in public is good and should be allowed, and you are imposing your discomfort on me. Please tell me you are joking... Nope, I'm being serious, just playing devils advocate here. We need to draw a line somewhere on when it's ok to force your discomfort on other people and when it's not ok. I'm curious where you will place it.
That's not the issue at stake here at all.
The issue here is equal rights for all groups. If society would be ok with people having sex on the street it would have to apply to heterosexuals, bisexuals and homosexuals equally. Society obviously draws an arbitrary line at some point, but that line needs to be applied to all different groups equally.
I'd figure out of all people you'd appreciate that.
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On October 12 2012 05:23 armada[sb] wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 05:19 jdseemoreglass wrote:On October 12 2012 05:18 armada[sb] wrote:On October 12 2012 05:18 Djzapz wrote:On October 12 2012 05:17 heliusx wrote:On October 12 2012 05:16 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Why is arresting people for having sex in public a good thing? Suppose I think sex in public is good and should be allowed, and you are imposing your discomfort on me. Please tell me you are joking... What's wrong with the thing he said? What's so scary about people shagging? Really nothing except "the kids" argument. Right, but people use that same exact argument against gays. That they want to "protect their children" from seeing that sort of thing. Yup, I'm of the opinion that sex is natural and beautiful and there's really nothing to be offended or disturbed by. I think people who want to "protect their children" from sex are misguided. Sex created us, and our children will have their own children by having sex. Should we pretend it doesn't happen? Lie to our kids and tell them the stork dropped them into the damn chimney? I like this, it's an interesting topic of discussion.
Yes, it is interesting, and it gets to the root of the problem instead of repeating the "bigotry" argument over and over.
So with your stance, are you saying adults would be allowed to expose themselves to children, to commit sexual acts in front of children?
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On October 12 2012 05:23 armada[sb] wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 05:19 jdseemoreglass wrote:On October 12 2012 05:18 armada[sb] wrote:On October 12 2012 05:18 Djzapz wrote:On October 12 2012 05:17 heliusx wrote:On October 12 2012 05:16 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Why is arresting people for having sex in public a good thing? Suppose I think sex in public is good and should be allowed, and you are imposing your discomfort on me. Please tell me you are joking... What's wrong with the thing he said? What's so scary about people shagging? Really nothing except "the kids" argument. Right, but people use that same exact argument against gays. That they want to "protect their children" from seeing that sort of thing. Yup, I'm of the opinion that sex is natural and beautiful and there's really nothing to be offended or disturbed by. I think people who want to "protect their children" from sex are misguided. Sex created us, and our children will have their own children by having sex. Should we pretend it doesn't happen? Lie to our kids and tell them the stork dropped them into the damn chimney? I like this, it's an interesting topic of discussion.
It's a beautiful thing between those who are having sex, and in seeing it I feel like I've intruded on something sensual and special. People who display it like that offend me because it's like they don't care how special it is.
...I seem to be of a rather unique viewpoint here, confirm/deny. XD
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On October 12 2012 05:26 tMomiji wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 05:23 armada[sb] wrote:On October 12 2012 05:19 jdseemoreglass wrote:On October 12 2012 05:18 armada[sb] wrote:On October 12 2012 05:18 Djzapz wrote:On October 12 2012 05:17 heliusx wrote:On October 12 2012 05:16 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Why is arresting people for having sex in public a good thing? Suppose I think sex in public is good and should be allowed, and you are imposing your discomfort on me. Please tell me you are joking... What's wrong with the thing he said? What's so scary about people shagging? Really nothing except "the kids" argument. Right, but people use that same exact argument against gays. That they want to "protect their children" from seeing that sort of thing. Yup, I'm of the opinion that sex is natural and beautiful and there's really nothing to be offended or disturbed by. I think people who want to "protect their children" from sex are misguided. Sex created us, and our children will have their own children by having sex. Should we pretend it doesn't happen? Lie to our kids and tell them the stork dropped them into the damn chimney? I like this, it's an interesting topic of discussion. It's a beautiful thing between those who are having sex, and in seeing it I feel like I've intruded on something sensual and special. People who display it like that offend me because it's like they don't care how special it is. ...I seem to be of a rather unique viewpoint here, confirm/deny. XD
confirm,lol. sex is really casual to many people.
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On October 12 2012 05:24 arfyron wrote:
I like how decriminalization in 1991 is seen as the mark of a tolerant society.
Hey dude, don't hate, I hear women's suffrage is almost guaranteed to be legislated within two years!
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On October 12 2012 05:25 jdseemoreglass wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 05:23 armada[sb] wrote:On October 12 2012 05:19 jdseemoreglass wrote:On October 12 2012 05:18 armada[sb] wrote:On October 12 2012 05:18 Djzapz wrote:On October 12 2012 05:17 heliusx wrote:On October 12 2012 05:16 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Why is arresting people for having sex in public a good thing? Suppose I think sex in public is good and should be allowed, and you are imposing your discomfort on me. Please tell me you are joking... What's wrong with the thing he said? What's so scary about people shagging? Really nothing except "the kids" argument. Right, but people use that same exact argument against gays. That they want to "protect their children" from seeing that sort of thing. Yup, I'm of the opinion that sex is natural and beautiful and there's really nothing to be offended or disturbed by. I think people who want to "protect their children" from sex are misguided. Sex created us, and our children will have their own children by having sex. Should we pretend it doesn't happen? Lie to our kids and tell them the stork dropped them into the damn chimney? I like this, it's an interesting topic of discussion. Yes, it is interesting, and it gets to the root of the problem instead of repeating the "bigotry" argument over and over. So with your stance, are you saying adults would be allowed to expose themselves to children, to commit sexual acts in front of children?
I think we benefit from being realists here. We can't just assume that out society doesn't exist, so no adults shouldn't be allowed to "expose themselves" (especially not in those words, ew) to children. But that's because it CAN be traumatic to them because they've been programmed to not know how to react to sexuality.
On October 12 2012 05:26 tMomiji wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 05:23 armada[sb] wrote:On October 12 2012 05:19 jdseemoreglass wrote:On October 12 2012 05:18 armada[sb] wrote:On October 12 2012 05:18 Djzapz wrote:On October 12 2012 05:17 heliusx wrote:On October 12 2012 05:16 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Why is arresting people for having sex in public a good thing? Suppose I think sex in public is good and should be allowed, and you are imposing your discomfort on me. Please tell me you are joking... What's wrong with the thing he said? What's so scary about people shagging? Really nothing except "the kids" argument. Right, but people use that same exact argument against gays. That they want to "protect their children" from seeing that sort of thing. Yup, I'm of the opinion that sex is natural and beautiful and there's really nothing to be offended or disturbed by. I think people who want to "protect their children" from sex are misguided. Sex created us, and our children will have their own children by having sex. Should we pretend it doesn't happen? Lie to our kids and tell them the stork dropped them into the damn chimney? I like this, it's an interesting topic of discussion. It's a beautiful thing between those who are having sex, and in seeing it I feel like I've intruded on something sensual and special. People who display it like that offend me because it's like they don't care how special it is. ...I seem to be of a rather unique viewpoint here, confirm/deny. XD
People get to choose eh. Sex is private for some, and for others they do it for $2000 and hundreds of dudes are fapping to it because it's a video on the internet.
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On October 12 2012 05:25 Derez wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 05:18 jdseemoreglass wrote:On October 12 2012 05:17 heliusx wrote:On October 12 2012 05:16 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Why is arresting people for having sex in public a good thing? Suppose I think sex in public is good and should be allowed, and you are imposing your discomfort on me. Please tell me you are joking... Nope, I'm being serious, just playing devils advocate here. We need to draw a line somewhere on when it's ok to force your discomfort on other people and when it's not ok. I'm curious where you will place it. That's not the issue at stake here at all. The issue here is equal rights for all groups. If society would be ok with people having sex on the street it would have to apply to heterosexuals, bisexuals and homosexuals equally. Society obviously draws an arbitrary line at some point, but that line needs to be applied to all different groups equally. I'd figure out of all people you'd appreciate that.
Yes, that's a valid way to approach this problem. It's just that in practice, society has passed laws based purely on discomfort without regard to discrimination or equality under the law.
I'm trying to think of a comparable example of a censoring law that has popular support and yet is discriminatory in nature. Can't think of any now, but if I do I'll be sure to bring it up.
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On October 12 2012 05:29 heliusx wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 05:26 tMomiji wrote:On October 12 2012 05:23 armada[sb] wrote:On October 12 2012 05:19 jdseemoreglass wrote:On October 12 2012 05:18 armada[sb] wrote:On October 12 2012 05:18 Djzapz wrote:On October 12 2012 05:17 heliusx wrote:On October 12 2012 05:16 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Why is arresting people for having sex in public a good thing? Suppose I think sex in public is good and should be allowed, and you are imposing your discomfort on me. Please tell me you are joking... What's wrong with the thing he said? What's so scary about people shagging? Really nothing except "the kids" argument. Right, but people use that same exact argument against gays. That they want to "protect their children" from seeing that sort of thing. Yup, I'm of the opinion that sex is natural and beautiful and there's really nothing to be offended or disturbed by. I think people who want to "protect their children" from sex are misguided. Sex created us, and our children will have their own children by having sex. Should we pretend it doesn't happen? Lie to our kids and tell them the stork dropped them into the damn chimney? I like this, it's an interesting topic of discussion. It's a beautiful thing between those who are having sex, and in seeing it I feel like I've intruded on something sensual and special. People who display it like that offend me because it's like they don't care how special it is. ...I seem to be of a rather unique viewpoint here, confirm/deny. XD confirm,lol. sex is really casual to many people.
Haha, I figured I'd be unique in this. Does that make me old-fashioned? ^^;
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On October 12 2012 05:30 jdseemoreglass wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 05:25 Derez wrote:On October 12 2012 05:18 jdseemoreglass wrote:On October 12 2012 05:17 heliusx wrote:On October 12 2012 05:16 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Why is arresting people for having sex in public a good thing? Suppose I think sex in public is good and should be allowed, and you are imposing your discomfort on me. Please tell me you are joking... Nope, I'm being serious, just playing devils advocate here. We need to draw a line somewhere on when it's ok to force your discomfort on other people and when it's not ok. I'm curious where you will place it. That's not the issue at stake here at all. The issue here is equal rights for all groups. If society would be ok with people having sex on the street it would have to apply to heterosexuals, bisexuals and homosexuals equally. Society obviously draws an arbitrary line at some point, but that line needs to be applied to all different groups equally. I'd figure out of all people you'd appreciate that. Yes, that's a valid way to approach this problem. It's just that in practice, society has passed laws based purely on discomfort without regard to discrimination or equality under the law. I'm trying to think of a comparable example of a censoring law that has popular support and yet is discriminatory in nature. Can't think of any now, but if I do I'll be sure to bring it up.
If it helps sodomy is still illegal here in Malaysia  technically blowjobs too.
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On October 12 2012 05:32 tMomiji wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 05:29 heliusx wrote:On October 12 2012 05:26 tMomiji wrote:On October 12 2012 05:23 armada[sb] wrote:On October 12 2012 05:19 jdseemoreglass wrote:On October 12 2012 05:18 armada[sb] wrote:On October 12 2012 05:18 Djzapz wrote:On October 12 2012 05:17 heliusx wrote:On October 12 2012 05:16 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Why is arresting people for having sex in public a good thing? Suppose I think sex in public is good and should be allowed, and you are imposing your discomfort on me. Please tell me you are joking... What's wrong with the thing he said? What's so scary about people shagging? Really nothing except "the kids" argument. Right, but people use that same exact argument against gays. That they want to "protect their children" from seeing that sort of thing. Yup, I'm of the opinion that sex is natural and beautiful and there's really nothing to be offended or disturbed by. I think people who want to "protect their children" from sex are misguided. Sex created us, and our children will have their own children by having sex. Should we pretend it doesn't happen? Lie to our kids and tell them the stork dropped them into the damn chimney? I like this, it's an interesting topic of discussion. It's a beautiful thing between those who are having sex, and in seeing it I feel like I've intruded on something sensual and special. People who display it like that offend me because it's like they don't care how special it is. ...I seem to be of a rather unique viewpoint here, confirm/deny. XD confirm,lol. sex is really casual to many people. Haha, I figured I'd be unique in this. Does that make me old-fashioned? ^^;
Probably just makes you a good christian or something. Be proud though cause most of them only pretend to share that view. haha
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" He elaborates that the free speech of the gay minorities is a violation of other people's right to not to have to hear something offensive."
Wow... just wow...
They don't seem to know what free speech ACTUALLY is.
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On October 12 2012 05:33 S_SienZ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 05:30 jdseemoreglass wrote:On October 12 2012 05:25 Derez wrote:On October 12 2012 05:18 jdseemoreglass wrote:On October 12 2012 05:17 heliusx wrote:On October 12 2012 05:16 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Why is arresting people for having sex in public a good thing? Suppose I think sex in public is good and should be allowed, and you are imposing your discomfort on me. Please tell me you are joking... Nope, I'm being serious, just playing devils advocate here. We need to draw a line somewhere on when it's ok to force your discomfort on other people and when it's not ok. I'm curious where you will place it. That's not the issue at stake here at all. The issue here is equal rights for all groups. If society would be ok with people having sex on the street it would have to apply to heterosexuals, bisexuals and homosexuals equally. Society obviously draws an arbitrary line at some point, but that line needs to be applied to all different groups equally. I'd figure out of all people you'd appreciate that. Yes, that's a valid way to approach this problem. It's just that in practice, society has passed laws based purely on discomfort without regard to discrimination or equality under the law. I'm trying to think of a comparable example of a censoring law that has popular support and yet is discriminatory in nature. Can't think of any now, but if I do I'll be sure to bring it up. If it helps sodomy is still illegal here in Malaysia technically blowjobs too.
Guess I know where not to go for my summer trip! 
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On October 12 2012 05:34 heliusx wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 05:32 tMomiji wrote:On October 12 2012 05:29 heliusx wrote:On October 12 2012 05:26 tMomiji wrote:On October 12 2012 05:23 armada[sb] wrote:On October 12 2012 05:19 jdseemoreglass wrote:On October 12 2012 05:18 armada[sb] wrote:On October 12 2012 05:18 Djzapz wrote:On October 12 2012 05:17 heliusx wrote:On October 12 2012 05:16 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Why is arresting people for having sex in public a good thing? Suppose I think sex in public is good and should be allowed, and you are imposing your discomfort on me. Please tell me you are joking... What's wrong with the thing he said? What's so scary about people shagging? Really nothing except "the kids" argument. Right, but people use that same exact argument against gays. That they want to "protect their children" from seeing that sort of thing. Yup, I'm of the opinion that sex is natural and beautiful and there's really nothing to be offended or disturbed by. I think people who want to "protect their children" from sex are misguided. Sex created us, and our children will have their own children by having sex. Should we pretend it doesn't happen? Lie to our kids and tell them the stork dropped them into the damn chimney? I like this, it's an interesting topic of discussion. It's a beautiful thing between those who are having sex, and in seeing it I feel like I've intruded on something sensual and special. People who display it like that offend me because it's like they don't care how special it is. ...I seem to be of a rather unique viewpoint here, confirm/deny. XD confirm,lol. sex is really casual to many people. Haha, I figured I'd be unique in this. Does that make me old-fashioned? ^^; Probably just makes you a good christian or something. Be proud though cause most of them only pretend to share that view. haha
That's HILARIOUS because I'm actually not religious at all! XD
Edit: It's amazing that this topic hasn't descended into a flame war. That makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside.  There ARE still reasonable people on the internets.
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On October 12 2012 05:34 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 05:33 S_SienZ wrote:On October 12 2012 05:30 jdseemoreglass wrote:On October 12 2012 05:25 Derez wrote:On October 12 2012 05:18 jdseemoreglass wrote:On October 12 2012 05:17 heliusx wrote:On October 12 2012 05:16 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Why is arresting people for having sex in public a good thing? Suppose I think sex in public is good and should be allowed, and you are imposing your discomfort on me. Please tell me you are joking... Nope, I'm being serious, just playing devils advocate here. We need to draw a line somewhere on when it's ok to force your discomfort on other people and when it's not ok. I'm curious where you will place it. That's not the issue at stake here at all. The issue here is equal rights for all groups. If society would be ok with people having sex on the street it would have to apply to heterosexuals, bisexuals and homosexuals equally. Society obviously draws an arbitrary line at some point, but that line needs to be applied to all different groups equally. I'd figure out of all people you'd appreciate that. Yes, that's a valid way to approach this problem. It's just that in practice, society has passed laws based purely on discomfort without regard to discrimination or equality under the law. I'm trying to think of a comparable example of a censoring law that has popular support and yet is discriminatory in nature. Can't think of any now, but if I do I'll be sure to bring it up. If it helps sodomy is still illegal here in Malaysia technically blowjobs too. Guess I know where not to go for my summer trip!
Food here's awesome though. And it's not like anyone's gonna be monitoring your intimate activities anyway.
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On October 12 2012 05:35 tMomiji wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 05:34 heliusx wrote:On October 12 2012 05:32 tMomiji wrote:On October 12 2012 05:29 heliusx wrote:On October 12 2012 05:26 tMomiji wrote:On October 12 2012 05:23 armada[sb] wrote:On October 12 2012 05:19 jdseemoreglass wrote:On October 12 2012 05:18 armada[sb] wrote:On October 12 2012 05:18 Djzapz wrote:On October 12 2012 05:17 heliusx wrote:
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Please tell me you are joking... What's wrong with the thing he said? What's so scary about people shagging? Really nothing except "the kids" argument. Right, but people use that same exact argument against gays. That they want to "protect their children" from seeing that sort of thing. Yup, I'm of the opinion that sex is natural and beautiful and there's really nothing to be offended or disturbed by. I think people who want to "protect their children" from sex are misguided. Sex created us, and our children will have their own children by having sex. Should we pretend it doesn't happen? Lie to our kids and tell them the stork dropped them into the damn chimney? I like this, it's an interesting topic of discussion. It's a beautiful thing between those who are having sex, and in seeing it I feel like I've intruded on something sensual and special. People who display it like that offend me because it's like they don't care how special it is. ...I seem to be of a rather unique viewpoint here, confirm/deny. XD confirm,lol. sex is really casual to many people. Haha, I figured I'd be unique in this. Does that make me old-fashioned? ^^; Probably just makes you a good christian or something. Be proud though cause most of them only pretend to share that view. haha That's HILARIOUS because I'm actually not religious at all! XD
Then I'm as confused as you are!
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On October 12 2012 05:36 S_SienZ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 05:34 Djzapz wrote:On October 12 2012 05:33 S_SienZ wrote:On October 12 2012 05:30 jdseemoreglass wrote:On October 12 2012 05:25 Derez wrote:On October 12 2012 05:18 jdseemoreglass wrote:On October 12 2012 05:17 heliusx wrote:On October 12 2012 05:16 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Why is arresting people for having sex in public a good thing? Suppose I think sex in public is good and should be allowed, and you are imposing your discomfort on me. Please tell me you are joking... Nope, I'm being serious, just playing devils advocate here. We need to draw a line somewhere on when it's ok to force your discomfort on other people and when it's not ok. I'm curious where you will place it. That's not the issue at stake here at all. The issue here is equal rights for all groups. If society would be ok with people having sex on the street it would have to apply to heterosexuals, bisexuals and homosexuals equally. Society obviously draws an arbitrary line at some point, but that line needs to be applied to all different groups equally. I'd figure out of all people you'd appreciate that. Yes, that's a valid way to approach this problem. It's just that in practice, society has passed laws based purely on discomfort without regard to discrimination or equality under the law. I'm trying to think of a comparable example of a censoring law that has popular support and yet is discriminatory in nature. Can't think of any now, but if I do I'll be sure to bring it up. If it helps sodomy is still illegal here in Malaysia technically blowjobs too. Guess I know where not to go for my summer trip! Food here's awesome though. And it's not like anyone's gonna be monitoring your intimate activities anyway.
I was just kidding ^_^.
And now I'm hungry =(
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On October 12 2012 05:36 S_SienZ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 05:34 Djzapz wrote:On October 12 2012 05:33 S_SienZ wrote:On October 12 2012 05:30 jdseemoreglass wrote:On October 12 2012 05:25 Derez wrote:On October 12 2012 05:18 jdseemoreglass wrote:On October 12 2012 05:17 heliusx wrote:On October 12 2012 05:16 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Why is arresting people for having sex in public a good thing? Suppose I think sex in public is good and should be allowed, and you are imposing your discomfort on me. Please tell me you are joking... Nope, I'm being serious, just playing devils advocate here. We need to draw a line somewhere on when it's ok to force your discomfort on other people and when it's not ok. I'm curious where you will place it. That's not the issue at stake here at all. The issue here is equal rights for all groups. If society would be ok with people having sex on the street it would have to apply to heterosexuals, bisexuals and homosexuals equally. Society obviously draws an arbitrary line at some point, but that line needs to be applied to all different groups equally. I'd figure out of all people you'd appreciate that. Yes, that's a valid way to approach this problem. It's just that in practice, society has passed laws based purely on discomfort without regard to discrimination or equality under the law. I'm trying to think of a comparable example of a censoring law that has popular support and yet is discriminatory in nature. Can't think of any now, but if I do I'll be sure to bring it up. If it helps sodomy is still illegal here in Malaysia technically blowjobs too. Guess I know where not to go for my summer trip! Food here's awesome though. And it's not like anyone's gonna be monitoring your intimate activities anyway.
That's what you think, until they come for you.
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On October 12 2012 05:25 jdseemoreglass wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 05:23 armada[sb] wrote:On October 12 2012 05:19 jdseemoreglass wrote:On October 12 2012 05:18 armada[sb] wrote:On October 12 2012 05:18 Djzapz wrote:On October 12 2012 05:17 heliusx wrote:On October 12 2012 05:16 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Why is arresting people for having sex in public a good thing? Suppose I think sex in public is good and should be allowed, and you are imposing your discomfort on me. Please tell me you are joking... What's wrong with the thing he said? What's so scary about people shagging? Really nothing except "the kids" argument. Right, but people use that same exact argument against gays. That they want to "protect their children" from seeing that sort of thing. Yup, I'm of the opinion that sex is natural and beautiful and there's really nothing to be offended or disturbed by. I think people who want to "protect their children" from sex are misguided. Sex created us, and our children will have their own children by having sex. Should we pretend it doesn't happen? Lie to our kids and tell them the stork dropped them into the damn chimney? I like this, it's an interesting topic of discussion. Yes, it is interesting, and it gets to the root of the problem instead of repeating the "bigotry" argument over and over. So with your stance, are you saying adults would be allowed to expose themselves to children, to commit sexual acts in front of children?
No, because that leaves too much room for adults to manipulate children. I think a fair start would be to be more lenient as far as sex goes on television. I just don't see how so much horrific violence can be displayed but a nipple is just out of the question.
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Damn shame, really. Misinformation and stupidity on a national level is just outright wrong.
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