On October 12 2012 09:40 autoexec wrote: Why aren't there any straight pride parades?
Now THAT is discrimination.
Are you fucking serious?
Go ahead and organize a Straight Pride Parade. Who is stopping you?
What I want to know is why there aren't straight kids committing suicide because they're being bullied for being straight.
Why aren't straight kids being told they are going to burn in hell for being straight?
Let's even out the playing field here.
None of that is the reason, either. The reason there are no straight pride parades is because there is no interest in those. It would be discrimination if you were not allowed to have one, which i am pretty sure you are. It is just that noone organizes one, and if they try, apparently not a lot of people go there. If you really want to have one, find enough likeminded people and organize one.
A straight pride parade would be a very sad affair, likely mostly populated by people who are very into normative heterosexuality.
On October 12 2012 09:40 autoexec wrote: Why aren't there any straight pride parades?
Now THAT is discrimination.
Are you fucking serious?
Go ahead and organize a Straight Pride Parade. Who is stopping you?
What I want to know is why there aren't straight kids committing suicide because they're being bullied for being straight.
Why aren't straight kids being told they are going to burn in hell for being straight?
Let's even out the playing field here.
None of that is the reason, either. The reason there are no straight pride parades is because there is no interest in those. It would be discrimination if you were not allowed to have one, which i am pretty sure you are. It is just that noone organizes one, and if they try, apparently not a lot of people go there. If you really want to have one, find enough likeminded people and organize one.
Straight pride marches would just end up being really populated with neo-nazis.
The average joe really isn't going to go out of his way to march on what would, in the end, not boil down to a celebration of being straight, but a childish sneer at those who are gay.
On October 12 2012 16:56 gylka wrote: Wow, a thread on TL about situation in my country... Sick! Accidently saw the thread on the right side of main screen of this site. I'm sorry for maybe not good english cause my native is ukrainian.
Guys, I wouldn't pay attention on that shit with that law voting in our parliament. It's like in any country when they have huge REAL problems (like now we have very shitty economy) those fuckers from powers (government, president and parliament at this moment are controlled by one big group) decide to throw attention from REAL problems by throwing some shit that causes butthurt - laws about gays, laws about languages, laws about religion etc. Those politicians dont actualy care about all these gays/languages, cause its just a distraction so news lines wont be like "Ukraine's economy is in deep shit", "Ukraine is bankrupt". 2-3 month earlier we had "language" vote. We have 1 sovereign language - ukrainian (but still 30-50% people speak russian). That vote was about facticly getting russian language regional status. And so on...
On 28th of October (ye, in 16 days ) we have parliamentary elections and politicians dont want people to hear "ukraine is bankrupt", they want them to hear about gay/language/religion because talking about REAL problems (economy, corruption) will cause huge rating falling right before elections (I actualy dont know who votes for them, but sadly to say... most people are not realy smart).
So dont be misleaded... People here are just the same as in your country (by your I mean any country you're reading from, US, England, France, Mexica etc. ). Of course most people are homophobic, but but dont showing it. And of course we dont show it and act tolerately in most cases just like in any other country. And of course people DONT realy care about that idiotic law...
Here laws are made in 2 stages in parliament (1st vote and 2nd vote). 1st vote - thats what you know and what newspapers wrote about, but the law starts working after 2nd vote. And as far as I remember 2nd vote is after elections so I think they just will "forget" about this idiotic law and wont even do the 2nd vote...
Thank you. This is one of the first things a government does when in deep deep shit. Start make the population think in a "we vs them" way, and bring the country together. Nationalism and conservatism is the go-to way to deal with bad economy if you want to be re-elected.
Everytime I read shit about straight people being 'offended' by gay people and how they have to right not to be exposed to their lifestyle or some shit like that I just roll my eyes and think how fucking privileged these people are. It's such a disgrace.
I am straight myself, but I have a lot of sympathy for my gay friends. Don't ya think some of them aren't exactly excited to see straight people kiss in like every movie ever made? That they can't run away from crappy romance plots in the vast majority of books, TV shows, what have you? That you can't walk two feet outside of any city in the Western world without seeing some guy and a girl hold hands and kiss? Maybe they don't find it very hot either, but you don't hear them crying about it because it's their lot to grow up as a sexual minority and accept the ubiquity of straight sexuality everywhere they look?
So really, all I can say to whiny straight people is that privilege is a very fine drug indeed and that you can get the fuck out of my life right now if you don't understand what it is. Seriously.
I know, ranty. But my eyes literally go O_____________O at all this fucking anti-gay rubbish lately and it just makes me go more I don't wanna live on this planet anymore.gif than most anything else, because, guh, so stupid.
On October 13 2012 07:28 Vo-one wrote: I just leave this link here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85DqjlKm0Io Multivoting, forceblocking - you can find all of these in Ukrainian Parliament! Enjoy and Laugh YourAO.
Personally, I believe in democracy. Yes, democracy. Not that shit that's in US/Canada right now where if you're black/gay/single mother, you get all sorts of special treatment.
I believe that the majority should decide what to do. There is no absolute fair way to do something. There is no way for everyone to be satisfied. The satisfaction of some people leads to the dissatisfaction of other people. Unfortunately in the US, people seem to think that if you're a minority, you need to be "protected" even if that would mean doing something that goes against what 95% of the population wants.
If they win the vote to outlaw gay propaganda, then that is the way it should be. If they don't then that is the way it should be.
I'm proud for Ukraina. You can fuck at your bed anyone you want, but you should be punished for homosexual propaganda.
On October 13 2012 07:28 Vo-one wrote: I just leave this link here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85DqjlKm0Io Multivoting, forceblocking - you can find all of these in Ukrainian Parliament! Enjoy and Laugh YourAO.
PS yeah, that's Klitchko.
You can find everything the same at almost every parliament of the world, dont be silly.
On October 12 2012 16:56 gylka wrote: Wow, a thread on TL about situation in my country... Sick! Accidently saw the thread on the right side of main screen of this site. I'm sorry for maybe not good english cause my native is ukrainian.
Guys, I wouldn't pay attention on that shit with that law voting in our parliament. It's like in any country when they have huge REAL problems (like now we have very shitty economy) those fuckers from powers (government, president and parliament at this moment are controlled by one big group) decide to throw attention from REAL problems by throwing some shit that causes butthurt - laws about gays, laws about languages, laws about religion etc. Those politicians dont actualy care about all these gays/languages, cause its just a distraction so news lines wont be like "Ukraine's economy is in deep shit", "Ukraine is bankrupt". 2-3 month earlier we had "language" vote. We have 1 sovereign language - ukrainian (but still 30-50% people speak russian). That vote was about facticly getting russian language regional status. And so on...
On 28th of October (ye, in 16 days ) we have parliamentary elections and politicians dont want people to hear "ukraine is bankrupt", they want them to hear about gay/language/religion because talking about REAL problems (economy, corruption) will cause huge rating falling right before elections (I actualy dont know who votes for them, but sadly to say... most people are not realy smart).
So dont be misleaded... People here are just the same as in your country (by your I mean any country you're reading from, US, England, France, Mexica etc. ). Of course most people are homophobic, but but dont showing it. And of course we dont show it and act tolerately in most cases just like in any other country. And of course people DONT realy care about that idiotic law...
Here laws are made in 2 stages in parliament (1st vote and 2nd vote). 1st vote - thats what you know and what newspapers wrote about, but the law starts working after 2nd vote. And as far as I remember 2nd vote is after elections so I think they just will "forget" about this idiotic law and wont even do the 2nd vote...
On October 13 2012 13:45 agfoxGnom wrote: You can find everything the same at almost every parliament of the world, dont be silly.
Nah... Far NOT at every parliament in the world. Just yours (you're from Russia, right? ), mine (ukr) and several others asian or african countries... )) In normal countries political hustlers act much more adequete, they're a bit smarter and NEVER vote for other people.
But I dont want to argue, just replying to the thread. Peace
On October 13 2012 13:45 agfoxGnom wrote: I'm proud for Ukraina. You can fuck at your bed anyone you want, but you should be punished for homosexual propaganda
btw, there is no such thing as homosexual propaganda. What is it? By that definition that your St.Petersburg's municipal council's law gave - it can be anything... Even when teacher at school is saying that animals in nature sometimes make homosexual acts (dogs, monkeys etc) - it passes definition of homosexual propaganda and that teacher should be punished. When the boy is born homosexual and has a bit problems with adaptation in his class at school and parents are sending him to school psychologyst and he is saying that its normal, that at any place in the world 3-7% are born homosexual (its geneticaly deternimed sign) and you're just one of them - he passes homosexual propaganda and should be punished by that law. Its idiotic, dumb and that law made by some cave-people that dont read what specialists say (psychiatrist, medics and others who study that thing... not just some random guy with his own opinion based on irrational fears and fantasy and which is often wrong).
EPT
Accidently saw the thread on the right side of main screen of this site. 
