NBA Regular Season 2011-2012 - Page 13
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zeehar
Korea (South)3804 Posts
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13004 Posts
According to sources, Golden State is offering Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson and Ekpe Udoh. The team would also amnesty Andris Biedrins in order to create cap space to reunite Paul with Tyson Chandler. Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... z1foePZUYN Pretty nice deal also. Warriors 2011 lineup Paul Ellis Wright Lee Chandler. I still like the Clips version better if they can sign Chandler to go with Paul. Paul Gordon SF Blake Chandler. | ||
Steamroller
Finland756 Posts
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
If the Clippers could somehow get Paul, Gordon, random sf defender, Blake, Chandler/Jordan with Mo Williams/Bledsoe and Kaman coming off the bench, combined with the majestic grace that is Ralph Lawlers voice would becoming instantly watchable, rather than tolerable. | ||
MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
And yes, I like the Clippers lineup oh man. If they are able to somehow wait and be able to sign Howard as a free agent then dam even more. Haha I love the "majestic grace that is Ralph Lawler's voice". Brought a smile to my face. | ||
Miss_Cleo
United States406 Posts
On December 07 2011 12:49 Holcan wrote: Paul, Monte, Wright, Lee, Chandler is only mediocre but it would be make the Warriors much more watchable. If the Clippers could somehow get Paul, Gordon, random sf defender, Blake, Chandler/Jordan with Mo Williams/Bledsoe and Kaman coming off the bench, combined with the majestic grace that is Ralph Lawlers voice would becoming instantly watchable, rather than tolerable. I mute my TV when watching Clipper games because of the shitty commentating, Mike Smith and Ralph Lawler have the relationship of a spiteful husband and wife duo. | ||
Ace
United States16096 Posts
On December 07 2011 11:24 Xeris wrote: I'd ALMOST put Dirk on that list... but until the past 2 seasons I don't think he had put it all together. Right now though, I wouldn't trade him for anything. Well there are 2 reasons I wouldn't put Dirk on the list: 1.) He isn't an all around dominant player on the level of any of these guys 2.) Dirk has always had a team built around him. Not saying he can't do what these guys did although I am doubtful, but the Mavs have went out and got players to surround him with every season. No idea what Dirk looks like playing with different kinds of teams except his early days where he didn't break out yet. On December 07 2011 10:25 RowdierBob wrote: Ace, I know you're big on Eric Gordon. If you were the Clippers, would you trade Gordon and your high Minny pick for Howard (assuming he'd sign long-term. Also assuming you'd still have around $20 mill in cap space too to make a play at a big FA)? Yes. The only way I wouldn't is if another good Center came along and I trusted Eric Gordon's development to go to near Dwyane Wade/Kobe levels. A team of Griffin+Howard won't go far without stellar guard play anyway. | ||
shawster
Canada2485 Posts
On December 07 2011 12:03 igotmyown wrote: They sell #1 picks in the nba for cash. The patriots got Randy Moss (most gifted receiver of all time with motivation issues) for a 4th round pick, and if the Raiders asked for a #1, they would have been laughed off. Most first round draft picks in the nba end up as at best role/bench players and a good percentage end up out of the league. I don't really understand why it works that way, but I'm guessing it's that your number 1s are expected to reinvent your team and aren't as much developmental projects (except quarterbacks), while in the nba, you stink for years and keep playing the lottery until you win. Football's probably simpler to be great at, too (except quarterbacks). You can't bet your franchise by building around a random single high first round pick, but you can in the nfl. Otherwise the wolves and other perennial lottery teams would be godly. so what you're saying is that #1 pick overall isn't as much of a gamble in the NFL as it is in the NBA? i can kinda get that. | ||
MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
On December 07 2011 13:32 Miss_Cleo wrote: I mute my TV when watching Clipper games because of the shitty commentating, Mike Smith and Ralph Lawler have the relationship of a spiteful husband and wife duo. haha, first thing I thought of as well. Those two bicker during their casts so much it gets ridiculous and annoying. edit: seems they have met with Caron Butler two times already. edit 2: Butler meets with SA also, after SA decided it will use amnesty on Jefferson | ||
VENDIZ
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Tyree
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I mean i get that he is a more marketable star, but it just seems like crazy talk | ||
Ace
United States16096 Posts
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Kiarip
United States1835 Posts
On December 08 2011 07:23 Ace wrote: Chris Paul isn't injury prone, he's had 1 injury that he recovered from. That said he's better than Rondo at everything even when he isn't 100% healthy. You trade Rondo if you can because there is nothing Chris Paul can't do. Rondo plays significantly better defense, and is only a marginally worse play-maker | ||
igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On December 08 2011 07:23 Ace wrote: Chris Paul isn't injury prone, he's had 1 injury that he recovered from. That said he's better than Rondo at everything even when he isn't 100% healthy. You trade Rondo if you can because there is nothing Chris Paul can't do. Recovered is a strong statement, he doesn't have cartilage in one of his knees anymore, and it's never going to be better. It's just going to keep wearing away at the bone until he just can't play anymore. Rondo's taller and surprisingly good at getting rebounds in the air. Not just those long rebounds that you have to run, but grabbing the ball out of midair. Remember his putback over the Lakers in the middle of the paint? And Rondo broke his arm during the heat series, got back in and still ended up being the go to scorer. Not sure Chris Paul could do that. | ||
Ace
United States16096 Posts
How does Rondo's play against Miami even matter here?. He isn't even close to the player Chris Paul is. You can argue that he is the best Point Guard defender in the NBA and at best on the same level in terms of playmaking ability but that's about it. Chris Paul is the best Point Guard in the NBA since Isaiah Thomas/Magic Johnson days. | ||
slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On December 08 2011 09:09 Kiarip wrote: Rondo plays significantly better defense, and is only a marginally worse play-maker Chris Paul adds so much more than Rajon Rondo. Anyone who doesn't think so is clearly not watching basketball with any sort of discernment. | ||
zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On December 08 2011 09:43 Ace wrote: Chris Paul's injury was a torn meniscus which isn't the same as having no cartilage. It's also wrong to say he isn't ever going to get better when he actually played better basketball as the year went on, culminating in embarassing the Lakers with no David West. He was still the best PG and top 3 player in the NBA last year. How does Rondo's play against Miami even matter here?. He isn't even close to the player Chris Paul is. You can argue that he is the best Point Guard defender in the NBA and at best on the same level in terms of playmaking ability but that's about it. Chris Paul is the best Point Guard in the NBA since Isaiah Thomas/Magic Johnson days. Chris Paul had a torn meniscus, which I take it is cartilage. He had it removed completely. Paul underwent surgery on the knee in early February. Noted orthopedist Dr. James Andrews, unable to sew the damaged piece of cartilage, cut it away instead Same as the Brandon Roy procedure. His shots at the rim are around half of what they were before (more a year ago, less this year). http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Chris Paul He's still finding a way to get things done, although he hasn't kept up in PER and win shares. | ||
Ace
United States16096 Posts
http://www.hoopsnotes.com/teams/neworleans/paul-similar-knee-problems-than-roy/ Joe’s take- Unless I’m remembering incorrectly, or I just received faulty information from the get go, Paul didn’t have his entire meniscus removed, but only a piece. I will ask Paul on Wednesday if I get a chance. No conclusive evidence to show he'll be in the same position as Brandon Roy. Especially since, you know Chris Paul was actually playing basketball. | ||
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