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Kogut
United States147 Posts
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Vortok
United States830 Posts
On August 02 2011 09:07 zeross wrote: an apparently official non-intended leak annonced there wil be a 4th difficulty mode called inferno. You can found the leak at this adresse on blizzard website it's an hidden interview that someone (evilix) at diablofans.com discovered by looking a the page source. in a question Martens say : Whether it's true or not, it would be interesting if there's a difficulty that essentially has the entire game aimed at max level characters. Would allow you to farm items wherever, as opposed to only the final acts. It took Borderlands forever to implement, though they finally made the entire game level with you after you're done the story. That game has a bit of a flawed loot system (chest farming + easy to access chests + glitches), but the overall design of allowing you to farm loot outside of one or two areas is interesting. I'm guessing that in D3 they want to combat, at least in part, the endgame being very little outside of things like nonstop Meph/Baal/Cow runs. | ||
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tbeen
Germany98 Posts
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Perseverance
Japan2800 Posts
On August 02 2011 07:43 DDie wrote: Paladins sucked throught out the entire D2 history, and yes, my first class was a charge-hammerdin, way back in 1.01. The hammerdin back then was the only halfass viable build for a paladin to even try soloing act4, and even in that you had to have a handfull of rejs, because he sucked, HARD. Pally's were the best in D2. You must be smoking crack lol. | ||
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
On August 02 2011 12:23 Kogut wrote: Personally, what was my most anticipated game coming out anytime soon just became a no-purchase after today's announcement of a "real money" AH. It's a matter of principle, not cost. Buying/selling items privately or through eBay is hard enough to deal with. Blizzard is just going too far for me at this point. Clearly this is their next plan for WoW, so I'm even more glad I let the subscription to that fiasco expire a while back. Sad to see Blizzard hunting for every penny. Thanks, Activision. Clearly you're not too into it if you're put off by something that only affects you if you choose to use it. You can just never use the feature and play normally ya know. | ||
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rabitslayer
Canada24 Posts
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Tiamat
United States498 Posts
What is Blizzard going to do when a bugged or gamebreaking item is introduced into the environment and is being sold in the RMAH? They cannot remove or change that item can they? On the plus side, this creates "rares" an old Ultima Online verb, which is basically items that don't spawn anymore. On the flipside, Blizzard has to triple check each item to make sure that does not break the game, and I have a feeling that this means that most items will be "underpowered". Kinda like in the card game, Magic the Gathering, cards over the years never stack up to the pre 4th edition versions. And god forbid someone actually figures out a way to dupe items or figures out an exploit to make D3 spawn what items they want. They said SC2 could not be map hacked or drop hacked and it didnt even take them a year to crack it :D | ||
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
On August 02 2011 12:14 Seditary wrote: I don't have much to add, just want to say I'm old enough for that. Man D1 was so sweet back in the day. Reminiscing ftw. Still have the CD and CD case sitting right next to me | ||
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Gescom
Canada3525 Posts
On August 02 2011 12:23 Kogut wrote: Personally, what was my most anticipated game coming out anytime soon just became a no-purchase after today's announcement of a "real money" AH. It's a matter of principle, not cost. Buying/selling items privately or through eBay is hard enough to deal with. Blizzard is just going too far for me at this point. Clearly this is their next plan for WoW, so I'm even more glad I let the subscription to that fiasco expire a while back. Sad to see Blizzard hunting for every penny. Thanks, Activision. Well, there won't be any spam bots or outside sites like d2jsp or things as a result. It's actually a positive change. | ||
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benbrad2
103 Posts
While Blizzard said numerous time that they will maintain "Gold" as the medium of trade, they now introduced something more valuable to go after. The Cash. All the godly items will no longer be traded in Gold, but instead will be up on AH for Cash. Why? Simply because everyone will be selling the godly of the godliest items in CASH ! Gold willl no longer be the medium when dealing with high quality gears.... I was afraid this will come one day. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On August 02 2011 12:23 Kogut wrote: Personally, what was my most anticipated game coming out anytime soon just became a no-purchase after today's announcement of a "real money" AH. It's a matter of principle, not cost. Buying/selling items privately or through eBay is hard enough to deal with. Blizzard is just going too far for me at this point. Clearly this is their next plan for WoW, so I'm even more glad I let the subscription to that fiasco expire a while back. Sad to see Blizzard hunting for every penny. Thanks, Activision. The game will still be just as fun and you don't NEED to use the real money AH.... | ||
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King of Kings
Germany481 Posts
The game will still be just as fun and you don't NEED to use the real money AH.... It's about bad players buying the best gear/chars and facerolling through the game. The Game is dead and most people won't buy it now. The players who spend the most real-life money will win. | ||
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:26 King of Kings wrote: It's about bad players buying the best gear/chars and facerolling through the game. The Game is dead and most people won't buy it now. The players who spend the most real-life money will win. But how does that affect you in any way? Why worry about what other people are doing, this game is about you and possibly your friends have fun and playing through it. | ||
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Lowkin
Canada232 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:26 King of Kings wrote: It's about bad players buying the best gear/chars and facerolling through the game. The Game is dead and most people won't buy it now. The players who spend the most real-life money will win. Seriously are you that ignorant?, In d2 the game without the auction system the players who spend the most money are winning. The game is not dead it took a step in the write direction. Seriously I am sick of reading these posts about it's going to make the people that want to spend money beat me. That WAS GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY. Most people will buy this game and I bet you will too, and if you don't to be outclassed by people that will spend 20$ then play hardcore. | ||
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Ksi
357 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:26 King of Kings wrote: It's about bad players buying the best gear/chars and facerolling through the game. The Game is dead and most people won't buy it now. The players who spend the most real-life money will win. It's not a competitive game. You're supposed to ask yourself "Will I have fun playing this? and will that fun be worth the X amount of money I pay for it?" If the answer is yes, you get the game and you play it. | ||
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OhYess
Canada41 Posts
It will become culturally acceptable eventually. | ||
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Millsington
United States28 Posts
However... Ebay, JSP, or Blizzard -- Diablo items will be sold in some fashion. There will be willing sellers and willing buyers, so it will happen no matter what. Better you're (probably) guaranteed not to be scammed with Blizzard officially supporting it. Plus, this will allow Diablo to continue to make money and hopefully provide incentive for continued support through its lifecycle. In my eyes, it is the best solution to an inevitable problem. | ||
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:06 Gescom wrote: Well, there won't be any spam bots or outside sites like d2jsp or things as a result. It's actually a positive change. Agreed. As for the RL auction house thing - In FFXI (taking this as a example), one of the hardest items to obtain were fully upgraded relic weapons ("Were". Not so much anymore and some have been outclassed >.> by new items that are about as difficult to obtain) which were worth essentially 150-200 milllion gil. Lets convert that to RL money - 1 mil was around $30. So that means relics cost $4500-6000 dollars just for a relic. So which do you want to pay for a relic? $4500-6000 or 150-200 million gil? Well rich people (or anyone not too frugal) I guess could pay the $4500-6000 but the average Joe will probably pay up with the gil. So I don't think the best items will be sold for cheap. Edit - Yes technically it is 1-3 years worth of farming and/or doing "raids"(not called raids in FFXI but close enough) but some people (myself included) enjoy farming in game and would rather pay with virtual currency as opposed to real life currency. Part of the fun of RPGs is developing your character. Sure one can theoretically buy the best and maxed out character they can be in an RPG (for example) but is that really fun? Now in terms of cheap items - Sort of same deal here. Average Joes will probably be buying them with regular game currency rather than RL currency (maybe once in a while). Personally I'm fine with this as long as Diablo 3 gets constant updates like WoW. Diablo 2 did get updates (biggest was 1.10) but even that one is no where as big as the updates WoW provides (in terms of content. I know 1.10 revamp a lot of stuff and added runewords but still). | ||
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:34 Lowkin wrote: Seriously are you that ignorant?, In d2 the game without the auction system the players who spend the most money are winning. The game is not dead it took a step in the write direction. Seriously I am sick of reading these posts about it's going to make the people that want to spend money beat me. That WAS GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY. Most people will buy this game and I bet you will too, and if you don't to be outclassed by people that will spend 20$ then play hardcore. No one spends real money on D2 items... at least not the ones on d2jsp... Maybe you're the one who's delusional? Because you can find all those good items by making hammerdins... even legit you can get those items easily at start... You can open multiple instances of the game of D2 on one computer... You don't even need to be on the computer to get items... it'll just kill baal 20 times/hour ( max limit of games per hour per cdkey ) first few days of ladder should just be to get items to trade for key items for your char ( and then you can just repeatedly run the bosses much quicker ) godlies can be made through thousands of rolling by crafting... sometimes it glitches and adds the same modifiers twice or even three times 1.09 was pretty fun and so was 1.10+ I guess | ||
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Phaded
Australia579 Posts
On August 02 2011 13:49 Tiamat wrote: The RMAH is going to open a huge can of worms.. What is Blizzard going to do when a bugged or gamebreaking item is introduced into the environment and is being sold in the RMAH? They cannot remove or change that item can they? Sure they can, its part of mmo-champion's FAQ http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2397-Diablo-3-Auction-House-Announced-Spend-and-Earn-Real-Life-Money! What happens if there is a patch and the item I purchased is altered? It's important for us to ensure that Diablo III remains balanced and fun for years after launch. To that end, it may be necessary to change stats or alter abilities of items from time to time. It’s very important to note that Blizzard will not be providing refunds or making other accommodations if a purchased item is later altered in a patch. Given this, it's up to players to determine whether they're comfortable purchasing items in the currency-based auction house. tl;dr, if you drop hundreds of dollars on a bugged item and they nerf/remove it later, then tough titties you just wasted money. | ||
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