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BlindKill
Australia1508 Posts
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
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thebigdonkey
United States354 Posts
On May 30 2012 13:21 Quexana wrote: I asked Hodor who he thought was the baddest Mother F'er in the Seven Kingoms was and he quickly gave me the answer. He said "Hodor". Barristan Selmy Sandor and Gregor Clegane Robert Baratheon (before he got fat) Jaime Lannister Khal Drogo Syrio Forel Bronn Brienne of Tarth Jorah Mormont Good point, Robert was a bad, bad man. He caved in Rhaegar's armor with his massive warhammer. | ||
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Quexana
98 Posts
On May 30 2012 13:23 BlindKill wrote: in the books theres this weird guy who dips his sword in wildfire and fights with it, but they took him out because its too random. Imo in a real fight he'd beat everyone cause of that lol That was Thoros of Myr. Apparently they're gonna introduce him next season. http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/05/29/game-of-throne-season-3-cast/ | ||
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Azide
Canada566 Posts
On May 30 2012 12:58 Tewks44 wrote: I'd say Barristan Selmy or Sandor Clegane is probably the best, but you gotta give Jaime a hand, too iagree | ||
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Sprungjeezy
United States1313 Posts
On May 30 2012 12:58 Tewks44 wrote: I'd say Barristan Selmy or Sandor Clegane is probably the best, but you gotta give Jaime a hand, too In my opinion: Garlan Tyrell (Loras' brother) Barristan the Badass (in his prime and now) Jaime (in his prime) Bronn Syrio Robert (in his prime) Ned (in his prime) Brienne | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
What's your reason for that? | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
If he loses the duel he's dead. If he wins the duel Jamie's dead. If Jamie's dead the whole capture was pointless to begin with as he strategically isn't really important, but has usefulness as a hostage. For Jamie, either outcome of the duel is favourable. Same with Ned. Yeah sure, he could throw a sword duel in the throne room, but honestly it would be a political suicide regardless of the outcome. Imagine Obama strutting around in the UN asking people up for duels. Declining doesn't make you a coward. Accepting makes you as big of an ass though. | ||
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ArchEnemy
Australia37 Posts
On May 30 2012 13:22 Whole wrote: When you say Mormont, do you mean the Dany's knight/bodyguard? In the one fight that he had, he seemed to have been getting worked by that Dothraki, until...platemail. He certainly was getting worked, but one could argue he was just waiting for his opportunity to strike against a much faster (but more exposed) opponent... which he did convincingly. In addition the HBO game of thrones viewer guide talks about the major battles that have occurred, including the siege of Pyke where Ned, Jamie and Jorah are listed as being standout performers on the field of battle with Jorah himself being knighted for his valour in battle. Also in support of Neds ex-swordsmanship are the comments made by Barrinston Selmy in the first season where he talks with Ned about the old battles. Selmy says something along the lines of how hes seen Ned cut down many fine knights and that he thinks that Ned underrates himself. He also draws with Jamie in the fight in S1E5 before the Lannister guy spears him. | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
On May 30 2012 13:52 Euronyme wrote: I think you guys put too much emphasis on the times where people have said no to duelling Jamie. For instance in the case of Robb vs Jamie. Perhaps it's not the fear of losing the duel that drives him to say no, but rather the fact that it's utterly pointless. If he loses the duel he's dead. If he wins the duel Jamie's dead. If Jamie's dead the whole capture was pointless to begin with as he strategically isn't really important, but has usefulness as a hostage. For Jamie, either outcome of the duel is favourable. Same with Ned. Yeah sure, he could throw a sword duel in the throne room, but honestly it would be a political suicide regardless of the outcome. Imagine Obama strutting around in the UN asking people up for duels. Declining doesn't make you a coward. Accepting makes you as big of an ass though. Well I view it as Jamie just taunting them because he knows he would probably win anyway. @ArchEnemy, well that makes sense, but personally, I wouldn't put him with the top dogs yet. | ||
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Sprungjeezy
United States1313 Posts
On May 30 2012 13:45 Whole wrote: ^No Hound or Mountain^ What's your reason for that? I suppose I ought to remove Robert in hindsight, but I was ranking their swordsmanship, the Hound and the Mountain are stupidly strong, but not the best swordsmen. And as for the Jaime is over rated, this isn't SC2 where people's real ability is readily available for viewing in VODs and their abilities may be over hyped on forums. We only know what we've seen or heard and have to assume it's accurate and Barristan the Badass (as well as other reputable sources) has expressed admiration (and fear) of Jaime's abilities and lol if you think Rob could take him in single combat. | ||
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Whole
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Quexana
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On May 30 2012 14:07 Sprungjeezy wrote: I suppose I ought to remove Robert in hindsight, but I was ranking their swordsmanship, the Hound and the Mountain are stupidly strong, but not the best swordsmen. And as for the Jaime is over rated, this isn't SC2 where people's real ability is readily available for viewing in VODs and their abilities may be over hyped on forums. We only know what we've seen or heard and have to assume it's accurate and Barristan the Badass (as well as other reputable sources) has expressed admiration (and fear) of Jaime's abilities and lol if you think Rob could take him in single combat. Robert wasn't a swordsman, he wielded a mighty hammer. And the Hound and the Mountain are two of the best swordsmen in the entire seven kingdoms. How many swings of a sword do you need to kill a man. Only one if it is well placed. The Hound and the Mountain are these kinds of men. They kill brutally and efficiently. The only question is, which one is the better of the two? | ||
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Hoban
United States1600 Posts
On May 30 2012 14:31 Quexana wrote: Robert wasn't a swordsman, he wielded a mighty hammer. And the Hound and the Mountain are two of the best swordsmen in the entire seven kingdoms. How many swings of a sword do you need to kill a man. Only one if it is well placed. The Hound and the Mountain are these kinds of men. They kill brutally and efficiently. The only question is, which one is the better of the two? The Hound most definitely. He grew up fighting his brother and survived. This is a testament to his skill. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17340 Posts
On May 30 2012 13:45 Whole wrote: ^No Hound or Mountain^ What's your reason for that? Hound and Bronn are definitely my top 2. There's also Jaqen but you don't really see him in a straight up fight... | ||
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
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TeePee
United States132 Posts
On May 30 2012 14:48 biology]major wrote: remove hound's fear of fire and give drogo some armor and there you go If we're gonna do that then give Syrio a sword and make the half man into a full man | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
On May 30 2012 14:39 Manit0u wrote: Hound and Bronn are definitely my top 2. There's also Jaqen but you don't really see him in a straight up fight... Jaqen seems more like an assassin, than a straight up swordfighter, but i'm not too sure cause those 3 deaths that he gave arya, he always said it like he would give the name to these "men" and they would do it (the other 2 guys that arya saved?) Jaqen kinda seems laid back, tho i have to admit when he told arya she could just walk out and all those guards were dead, someone must have been pretty damn good to do that. But like i said i'm not too sure whether its him killing them, or the other two or even maybe all three of them | ||
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Sub40APM
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On May 30 2012 13:14 thebigdonkey wrote: There were several conversations (the other one that comes to mind was when Ned walked in on Jaime in the throne room). Jaime was always trying to provoke him and Ned didn't want any part of it. in the throne room conversation ned specifically says that jamie has 'fancy' armor that has never been 'scratched' because jamie 'picks the right opponents.' So Jamie always fights below his skill level and that is why he thinks he is so badass. Which Ned obviously disagrees with. | ||
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ArchEnemy
Australia37 Posts
On May 30 2012 14:59 Sub40APM wrote: in the throne room conversation ned specifically says that jamie has 'fancy' armor that has never been 'scratched' because jamie 'picks the right opponents.' So Jamie always fights below his skill level and that is why he thinks he is so badass. Which Ned obviously disagrees with. Agreed. One comment that sticks out in this regard is when Ned says to Jaime "you served the mad king well..... when serving was safe" although I'm not sure if that was in reference to his swordfighting or his duty as kingsguard.... proabably the latter but maybe a bit of both? | ||
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