EPTEDIT :- @meta 2-1-2 before u open ur raging trashpit again here are facts, OG won 2 majors with miracle on team, then they won 2 majors more without the star miracle then they won TI without s4 and fly now here is fact , If u remove Miracle and kuro from TL, everyone knows it will most likely become irrelevent like it was b4 miracle joined.(also GH).
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warrior4093
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EDIT :- @meta 2-1-2 before u open ur raging trashpit again here are facts, OG won 2 majors with miracle on team, then they won 2 majors more without the star miracle then they won TI without s4 and fly now here is fact , If u remove Miracle and kuro from TL, everyone knows it will most likely become irrelevent like it was b4 miracle joined.(also GH). | ||
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hangerrel
7 Posts
On September 23 2018 03:32 giftdgecko wrote: What questions does it answer? I feel like we know they played poorly. Anyone who thought they wanted to go to the minor or were told to is smokin something. Boys will be back. I wouldn't be surprised if they miss out on this major though. Honestly not the worst thing for them to have that break. i saw a lot of comments and assumptions on different forums and web-portals like "they were rofling / they were experimenting / they save strats for an upcoming minor (or any other tournament) / they didn't take the quals seriously / they didn't want to participate anyway but they were told to" , etc. So yes, I'm glad to see that they acknowledge their poor performance and don't give excuses on it. I keep my fingers crossed for the boys, really hope they'll fix all issues and problems they currently have + analyze mistakes and team decisions and come back stronger. | ||
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hangerrel
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juuto
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warrior4093
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On September 23 2018 05:29 hangerrel wrote: okay, Matu will be replaced with rmN- for the Minor quals. Is he going to play as support? Does it mean that Kuro will be on carry role? something seems off, i dont like it at all. I seriously hope all is well. | ||
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hangerrel
7 Posts
On September 23 2018 05:52 warrior4093 wrote: something seems off, i dont like it at all. I seriously hope all is well. Well, I'm curious why not Heen because he replaced Miracle during DreamLeague Season 9... If Matu needs a break or vacation, it's OK, but I felt some kind of desperation in previous Matu's interviews, as if he doesn't know what he wants in his life anymore. Or the latest video from Champions series published by Liquid - how Matu looked there, what he did and how he spoke - all gave me a strange feeling. Don't want to be an alarmist tho... Their manager told that he will come back. Meanwhile Kuro trains Lycan, Drow and Gyro... | ||
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Meta 2-1-2
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On September 22 2018 19:38 Sapaio wrote: Find it ridiculous that team topic on TL is about OG, because TL fans need to drag the most successful team in Dota 2 history down, because TL preform badly. When OG won majors and not TI then OG could not be considered great because they crumble on biggest stage, when they don't win anything but a minor all season and then win TI. Then they didn't deserve to win TI because other teams played better. There is just no pleasing some people. Some of the things point out is so strange, that minors and majors don't really matter for TL it's only TI that does, and then talking shit about OG for showing just that. Og most successful team in dota 2 history? You brain dead kid, lol? What about Navi with Aegis and 2 top places in 2 k 12/2 k 13? Eg with Aegis and top 3 in 2 k 16/ top 2 2 k 18? Liquid with Aegis and after on top all last season? Miracle win trash G 2 majors almost solo and another 2 trash G just spam Tb/Naga and play with spam spam spam illusions befo0re it fixed. Oh soorry but trash G never win another tournaments besides 4 majors,lol. Most successful team in my ass. Learn facts kid and stop write nonsense. User was warned for this post | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34500 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
OG made Miracle, we have Fly/N0tail to thank for developing him into a top player from a pubstar  I'm not sure what's the point in comparing the best teams either. The TI winning OG team has just n0tail from the original roster. It's pretty clear Kuro and n0tail are number 1 and two most accomplished players in history. You can't really say that about any single team. Especially Liquid/OG where Jerax has been such an integral part of both organizations | ||
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Damned627
Indonesia264 Posts
On September 23 2018 20:11 Meta 2-1-2 wrote: Og most successful team in dota 2 history? You brain dead kid, lol? What about Navi with Aegis and 2 top places in 2 k 12/2 k 13? Eg with Aegis and top 3 in 2 k 16/ top 2 2 k 18? Liquid with Aegis and after on top all last season? Miracle win trash G 2 majors almost solo and another 2 trash G just spam Tb/Naga and play with spam spam spam illusions befo0re it fixed. Oh soorry but trash G never win another tournaments besides 4 majors,lol. Most successful team in my ass. Learn facts kid and stop write nonsense. User was warned for this post Calm down boy, this is not JoinDota, here in LD we are civilized | ||
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warrior4093
100 Posts
On September 23 2018 20:38 Firebolt145 wrote: Discussion is fine. Attacks and flames are not. TY, i dont think some people can be taught manner, they only speak hate and not accept any fact they dont like. | ||
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Sapaio
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Meta 2-1-2
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On September 23 2018 21:38 LemOn wrote: Clueless attacks especially OG made Miracle, we have Fly/N0tail to thank for developing him into a top player from a pubstar I'm not sure what's the point in comparing the best teams either. The TI winning OG team has just n0tail from the original roster. It's pretty clear Kuro and n0tail are number 1 and two most accomplished players in history. You can't really say that about any single team. Especially Liquid/OG where Jerax has been such an integral part of both organizations Nope. It was Miracle who made Og major champs. I I think that you do not know that Puppei wanted to play with him, but he refused and left for Og (so 0 impact for Fly/Notail for that development). P.s If you think that when you put more brackets like XD,)), or smilies, you are smarter, then you are mistaken. Sorry for that facts dude.The difference is that Miracle made Og major champs and after his left they just spam 2 heroes with illusions before it fixed. Sad true. And for Kuro , his team plays a topt level almost 3 seasons with victory at many tournaments. Even last season after Aegis they occupied top-3 in 11 of the 13 tournaments when Og (Ahahahahahah)…. Jerax very good ,yes. But let's not compare Liquid victory on last T7 with Og because it's funny and sad at the same time (win the whole group or barely get out of the group, to win 1/2 participants for the title or win only two teams for Aegis). | ||
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Meta 2-1-2
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On September 24 2018 04:15 warrior4093 wrote: TY, i dont think some people can be taught manner, they only speak hate and not accept any fact they dont like. Funny to hear this from a fan of the weakest champion. | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
On September 24 2018 05:31 Meta 2-1-2 wrote: Nope. It was Miracle who made Og major champs. I I think that you do not know that Puppei wanted to play with him, but he refused and left for Og (so 0 impact for Fly/Notail for that development). P.s If you think that when you put more brackets like XD,)), or smilies, you are smarter, then you are mistaken. Sorry for that facts dude.The difference is that Miracle made Og major champs and after his left they just spam 2 heroes with illusions before it fixed. Sad true. And for Kuro , his team plays a topt level almost 3 seasons with victory at many tournaments. Even last season after Aegis they occupied top-3 in 11 of the 13 tournaments when Og (Ahahahahahah)…. Jerax very good ,yes. But let's not compare Liquid victory on last T7 with Og because it's funny and sad at the same time (win the whole group or barely get out of the group, to win 1/2 participants for the title or win only two teams for Aegis). A lot of beginners like you make this mistake actually They just watch the highlight reels and look at GPM and assume that the player makes equal impact. You can just look at Miracle's run with Danish Bears Or when Liquid just wasn't working out with Bulba, Miracle didn't really fall off and kept playing great (besides how comically bad he is on heroes like Nyx mid or Bat but that can hardly count) But the teams were getting Nowhere hardly beating any T 1.5 teams. I watched OG, I watched their 1st person replays, specifically I studied Miracle his Jugg etc. when he was on OG during that time. And he got carried by the team actually, and by that I mean enabled in a massive way, stacking, sacrificial or illusion hero N0tail making space, all he had to do is play great. And he got emotional support on top from Fly/N0tail got better and better as he stayed with them. He'd be nothing without his team, as he was on danish Bears, barely T2 team with him on it. Just look at what OG did with Ana - they made him look pretty much as good as Miracle, even though I think Miracle is clearly the better player of the two overall. Notail choked in a big way at TI6 (And TI7). So did Miracle by the way when it mattered, I'll never forget how many times he got needlessly picked off on Ember in the last series in TI6. But to say he won them Majors is just saying you don't understand Dota strategy at all. The massive fall off of OG at the start of last season was pretty much one word - N0tail's enabling carry style got more or less eradicated and the whole team strategy crumbled during the patch because of that EDIT: And yes I am clearly smarter and more knowledgeable than you when it comes to Dota strategy EDIT2: Balkan bears lol, that's how little they were known | ||
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LemOn
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haxhax
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On September 24 2018 06:16 LemOn wrote: Kuro is the most accomplished player in history is pretty much the only thing everyone can agree on that would be n0tail | ||
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warrior4093
100 Posts
On September 24 2018 05:33 Meta 2-1-2 wrote: Funny to hear this from a fan of the weakest champion. (champion none the less) ah yes here comes the pointy remarks but u get a reply this time ,see the thing is , liquid has only been doing well from TI7 to TI8 and now they are not doing well so as u define most teams s one patch, liquid also seems to be one patch to me by the very definition u provided. Now for the Personal attack, i think u deserve more then just a warning this time for this very post, spreading hatred is not what we are here for but u dont seems to understand this very simple concept. | ||
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
On September 24 2018 06:51 haxhax wrote: People are never gonna run out of excuses for when OG wins. Figure it's because they were never the team of players that were (in the reddit popularity contest) considered the best, so some people simply refuse to acknowledge the fact that OG has time and time again proven itself to be the best team in dota. that would be n0tail time and time again? yeah but with different rosters, and over 1 year, in which they were Tier 2/3. You cant even say its the original OG, only notail is left. OG isn't clearly the best team of all time, neither is Liquid. Depends on who you are a fan of. Maybe when a team wins the Aegis twice, that will finally change. And the title most accomplished player should always go to a captain, because he is the heart of the team, and the main reason it's succesful. so I also say kuro;) | ||
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hunter_x
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