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midou
Profile Joined April 2008
Bulgaria1168 Posts
September 25 2018 17:48 GMT
#6181
On September 26 2018 02:45 NInoff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2018 02:41 juuto wrote:
They should've just replace Matu with an actual fucking core player or sat this qualifier out. I feel like the team has been overworked and now they're just trying for absolutely no good reason at all when they could be taking a bit of a break.

Maybe they don't want to play the major, like i said before, but they have sponsor contracts that forces them to play the qualifiers?
Hmm or maybe they just don't know how to draft / lane against random pub players + bone7?
Hmm maybe just disband and stop playing dota? Hmm...

Yeah thats it! All those last two years, were lucky drafts, and misclicks in to kills.


So you are saying they are 322ing both the major and minor qualifiers? Hmm
chabode
Profile Joined March 2017
330 Posts
September 25 2018 17:56 GMT
#6182
On September 26 2018 02:46 ShiaoPi wrote:
welp, lets hope the Lower bracket goes better :S

not if they face Lithium with another wonky draft
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
September 26 2018 00:55 GMT
#6183
I bet kuro secretly still wants to play carry
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
September 26 2018 04:18 GMT
#6184
On September 26 2018 09:55 Papercappu wrote:
I bet kuro secretly still wants to play carry


Secretly? LOL.
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
September 26 2018 05:39 GMT
#6185
On September 26 2018 02:48 midou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2018 02:45 NInoff wrote:
On September 26 2018 02:41 juuto wrote:
They should've just replace Matu with an actual fucking core player or sat this qualifier out. I feel like the team has been overworked and now they're just trying for absolutely no good reason at all when they could be taking a bit of a break.

Maybe they don't want to play the major, like i said before, but they have sponsor contracts that forces them to play the qualifiers?
Hmm or maybe they just don't know how to draft / lane against random pub players + bone7?
Hmm maybe just disband and stop playing dota? Hmm...

Yeah thats it! All those last two years, were lucky drafts, and misclicks in to kills.


So you are saying they are 322ing both the major and minor qualifiers? Hmm


Im saying that they wanted to take a break. But probably sponsor or other contracts didn''t let them.
They are either in need of a break, or just don't want to play dota anymore. And i don't think thats the reason.
Toshiru
Profile Joined August 2017
Germany47 Posts
September 26 2018 07:10 GMT
#6186
Honestly after these performances the only thing I can think of, is that they might be having internal issues (like someone leaving). Still they are all just underperforming now, really hope they will show us sth better today.
If you go over your limits, would you be able to go back?
Qualitaetsgarant
Profile Joined April 2018
124 Posts
September 26 2018 08:18 GMT
#6187
On September 26 2018 14:39 NInoff wrote:
Im saying that they wanted to take a break. But probably sponsor or other contracts didn''t let them.
They are either in need of a break, or just don't want to play dota anymore. And i don't think thats the reason.


Agreed. They won their group at TI and ended up in 4th place, they won the Supermajor.
warrior4093
Profile Joined November 2017
100 Posts
September 26 2018 10:03 GMT
#6188
no contracts (aside from chinese ) forces top teams to play tournament when they ask for break so there is that.
Qualitaetsgarant
Profile Joined April 2018
124 Posts
September 26 2018 12:14 GMT
#6189
On September 26 2018 19:03 warrior4093 wrote:
no contracts (aside from chinese ) forces top teams to play tournament when they ask for break so there is that.


Where can i download the sponsor contracts of TL?
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
September 26 2018 12:17 GMT
#6190
I used to take part in this kind of discussions. Wasn't gonna actually post but after so much I need to ask.. why does it matter so much?
I mean Dota is so different now from TI1 times, how can you actually even compare how teams do now and did back then and which team is historically better if the game is not the same?

It is like comparing football now with back then when goalkeepers couldn't use their hands. It makes no sense.
TI1 - TI3 is way different from TI4 - TI7 and TI8 yet another kind of game with the new patch system.

And don't even start with the money, TI1 against TI3 is already not comparable. Taking into account smaller tournaments and their prize makes it even worse.
Back to football is like comparing what Pele earned to what Cristiano earns. Makes zero sense.
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
September 26 2018 16:01 GMT
#6191
Does anyone know why Matu is not playing today? I missed the start of the stream so they may have said it there.
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
September 26 2018 17:19 GMT
#6192
Maybe if Kuro didn't take every chance he could get to play core, Liquid would've been doing better in the qualifiers than they are now. Forcing himself as core and now forcing Rmn as core because Kuro core didn't work the previous day is ridiculous
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-26 19:29:57
September 26 2018 19:28 GMT
#6193
On September 27 2018 01:01 Oukka wrote:
Does anyone know why Matu is not playing today? I missed the start of the stream so they may have said it there.



Only thing we got to hear about it, afaik.
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
September 26 2018 19:38 GMT
#6194
Rmn is a fucking lifesaver. He's a support player who just happened to be able to competently play a decent amount of carries to help save Liquid after Kuro core didn't work out. His paycheck better be fat as hell.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 26 2018 20:41 GMT
#6195
well that got tense for a bit, but thankfully we made it to the minor.
Now we just need to win that to make it back to the major xD
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
KoolyO
Profile Joined June 2017
29 Posts
September 27 2018 05:08 GMT
#6196
On September 27 2018 05:41 ShiaoPi wrote:
well that got tense for a bit, but thankfully we made it to the minor.
Now we just need to win that to make it back to the major xD

I believe it was all part of the plan. If we did qualify for the Major directly we wouldn't be able to win both of them.
Laugh... And the world laughs with you. Cry... And the world laughs louder!!!
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
September 27 2018 06:55 GMT
#6197
Yeah, more DPC Points that way!
There can only be one Geisterkarle
haxhax
Profile Joined January 2015
125 Posts
September 27 2018 10:21 GMT
#6198
On September 27 2018 15:55 Geisterkarle wrote:
Yeah, more DPC Points that way!


You can only earn DPC from whichever of the two gives you the most
derElbe
Profile Joined February 2009
Germany571 Posts
September 28 2018 15:12 GMT
#6199
is Liquid not competing in the ESL qualifier ?
Hoejja - Bisu - Leenock - TLO
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 28 2018 16:21 GMT
#6200
Pretty sure they declined an invite since Dreamhack is the day after the end of ESL One Hamburg. So as much as it pains me we won't see Liquid in Hamburg :/
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
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