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On September 24 2018 07:49 hunter_x wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2018 06:51 haxhax wrote:People are never gonna run out of excuses for when OG wins. Figure it's because they were never the team of players that were (in the reddit popularity contest) considered the best, so some people simply refuse to acknowledge the fact that OG has time and time again proven itself to be the best team in dota. On September 24 2018 06:16 LemOn wrote:
Kuro is the most accomplished player in history is pretty much the only thing everyone can agree on that would be n0tail time and time again? yeah but with different rosters, and over 1 year, in which they were Tier 2/3. You cant even say its the original OG, only notail is left. OG isn't clearly the best team of all time, neither is Liquid. Depends on who you are a fan of. Maybe when a team wins the Aegis twice, that will finally change. And the title most accomplished player should always go to a captain, because he is the heart of the team, and the main reason it's succesful. so I also say kuro;)
I'm just trying to be open minded here but if your discussing the most accomplished team, then 1st you would seperate the TI winners, yes? Navi, IG, Alliance, Newbie, Evil Geniuses, Wings, Liquid, and OG. No one has won twice as someone previously stated, so factor in the placings. It comes down to Evil Geniuses. The only other thing I think that can be entertained is how high does the public hold the Majors? Even if people want to say they are structured similarly to TI, they ARE NOT TI. But Throwing all this together would mean it has to be between OG and EG, not 'Depends on who you are a fan of', as the poster stated. I would say, after looking at all the placings between the 2 of the Internationals and the Majors, it just has to be Evil Geniuses. They were runner up, or 3rd in almost all of them or atleast the ones that OG won. So yes OG did win those Majors, but then you move on to the big daddy of the scoring sheet, The International. Evil Geniuses placings in The international paired with their win at TI5 should flat out push them into the lead of best team of all time, even if it's just by a nose. I understand people will argue this till the end of day, but when you take all of these things into account, personally I dont see how it could be any other team, I know I can't be the only one out there that sees it this way, and I'm not even a biased EG fan.
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On September 24 2018 08:44 JGwinworth1 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2018 07:49 hunter_x wrote:On September 24 2018 06:51 haxhax wrote:People are never gonna run out of excuses for when OG wins. Figure it's because they were never the team of players that were (in the reddit popularity contest) considered the best, so some people simply refuse to acknowledge the fact that OG has time and time again proven itself to be the best team in dota. On September 24 2018 06:16 LemOn wrote:
Kuro is the most accomplished player in history is pretty much the only thing everyone can agree on that would be n0tail time and time again? yeah but with different rosters, and over 1 year, in which they were Tier 2/3. You cant even say its the original OG, only notail is left. OG isn't clearly the best team of all time, neither is Liquid. Depends on who you are a fan of. Maybe when a team wins the Aegis twice, that will finally change. And the title most accomplished player should always go to a captain, because he is the heart of the team, and the main reason it's succesful. so I also say kuro;) I'm just trying to be open minded here but if your discussing the most accomplished team, then 1st you would seperate the TI winners, yes? Navi, IG, Alliance, Newbie, Evil Geniuses, Wings, Liquid, and OG. No one has won twice as someone previously stated, so factor in the placings. It comes down to Evil Geniuses. The only other thing I think that can be entertained is how high does the public hold the Majors? Even if people want to say they are structured similarly to TI, they ARE NOT TI. But Throwing all this together would mean it has to be between OG and EG, not 'Depends on who you are a fan of', as the poster stated. I would say, after looking at all the placings between the 2 of the Internationals and the Majors, it just has to be Evil Geniuses. They were runner up, or 3rd in almost all of them or atleast the ones that OG won. So yes OG did win those Majors, but then you move on to the big daddy of the scoring sheet, The International. Evil Geniuses placings in The international paired with their win at TI5 should flat out push them into the lead of best team of all time, even if it's just by a nose. I understand people will argue this till the end of day, but when you take all of these things into account, personally I dont see how it could be any other team, I know I can't be the only one out there that sees it this way, and I'm not even a biased EG fan.
I agree with this perspective  . Obviously I am a TL supporter but considering the history of Dota2 I would say that EG are clearly the most successful team, for now :D
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On September 24 2018 08:44 JGwinworth1 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2018 07:49 hunter_x wrote:On September 24 2018 06:51 haxhax wrote:People are never gonna run out of excuses for when OG wins. Figure it's because they were never the team of players that were (in the reddit popularity contest) considered the best, so some people simply refuse to acknowledge the fact that OG has time and time again proven itself to be the best team in dota. On September 24 2018 06:16 LemOn wrote:
Kuro is the most accomplished player in history is pretty much the only thing everyone can agree on that would be n0tail time and time again? yeah but with different rosters, and over 1 year, in which they were Tier 2/3. You cant even say its the original OG, only notail is left. OG isn't clearly the best team of all time, neither is Liquid. Depends on who you are a fan of. Maybe when a team wins the Aegis twice, that will finally change. And the title most accomplished player should always go to a captain, because he is the heart of the team, and the main reason it's succesful. so I also say kuro;) I'm just trying to be open minded here but if your discussing the most accomplished team, then 1st you would seperate the TI winners, yes? Navi, IG, Alliance, Newbie, Evil Geniuses, Wings, Liquid, and OG. No one has won twice as someone previously stated, so factor in the placings. It comes down to Evil Geniuses. The only other thing I think that can be entertained is how high does the public hold the Majors? Even if people want to say they are structured similarly to TI, they ARE NOT TI. But Throwing all this together would mean it has to be between OG and EG, not 'Depends on who you are a fan of', as the poster stated. I would say, after looking at all the placings between the 2 of the Internationals and the Majors, it just has to be Evil Geniuses. They were runner up, or 3rd in almost all of them or atleast the ones that OG won. So yes OG did win those Majors, but then you move on to the big daddy of the scoring sheet, The International. Evil Geniuses placings in The international paired with their win at TI5 should flat out push them into the lead of best team of all time, even if it's just by a nose. I understand people will argue this till the end of day, but when you take all of these things into account, personally I dont see how it could be any other team, I know I can't be the only one out there that sees it this way, and I'm not even a biased EG fan.
Feel like you're missing the fact that EG never won anything significant apart from DAC and TI.
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On September 24 2018 08:44 JGwinworth1 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2018 07:49 hunter_x wrote:On September 24 2018 06:51 haxhax wrote:People are never gonna run out of excuses for when OG wins. Figure it's because they were never the team of players that were (in the reddit popularity contest) considered the best, so some people simply refuse to acknowledge the fact that OG has time and time again proven itself to be the best team in dota. On September 24 2018 06:16 LemOn wrote:
Kuro is the most accomplished player in history is pretty much the only thing everyone can agree on that would be n0tail time and time again? yeah but with different rosters, and over 1 year, in which they were Tier 2/3. You cant even say its the original OG, only notail is left. OG isn't clearly the best team of all time, neither is Liquid. Depends on who you are a fan of. Maybe when a team wins the Aegis twice, that will finally change. And the title most accomplished player should always go to a captain, because he is the heart of the team, and the main reason it's succesful. so I also say kuro;) I'm just trying to be open minded here but if your discussing the most accomplished team, then 1st you would seperate the TI winners, yes? Navi, IG, Alliance, Newbie, Evil Geniuses, Wings, Liquid, and OG. No one has won twice as someone previously stated, so factor in the placings. It comes down to Evil Geniuses. The only other thing I think that can be entertained is how high does the public hold the Majors? Even if people want to say they are structured similarly to TI, they ARE NOT TI. But Throwing all this together would mean it has to be between OG and EG, not 'Depends on who you are a fan of', as the poster stated. I would say, after looking at all the placings between the 2 of the Internationals and the Majors, it just has to be Evil Geniuses. They were runner up, or 3rd in almost all of them or atleast the ones that OG won. So yes OG did win those Majors, but then you move on to the big daddy of the scoring sheet, The International. Evil Geniuses placings in The international paired with their win at TI5 should flat out push them into the lead of best team of all time, even if it's just by a nose. I understand people will argue this till the end of day, but when you take all of these things into account, personally I dont see how it could be any other team, I know I can't be the only one out there that sees it this way, and I'm not even a biased EG fan.
Totally agree, no arguments here
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On September 24 2018 19:23 haxhax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2018 08:44 JGwinworth1 wrote:On September 24 2018 07:49 hunter_x wrote:On September 24 2018 06:51 haxhax wrote:People are never gonna run out of excuses for when OG wins. Figure it's because they were never the team of players that were (in the reddit popularity contest) considered the best, so some people simply refuse to acknowledge the fact that OG has time and time again proven itself to be the best team in dota. On September 24 2018 06:16 LemOn wrote:
Kuro is the most accomplished player in history is pretty much the only thing everyone can agree on that would be n0tail time and time again? yeah but with different rosters, and over 1 year, in which they were Tier 2/3. You cant even say its the original OG, only notail is left. OG isn't clearly the best team of all time, neither is Liquid. Depends on who you are a fan of. Maybe when a team wins the Aegis twice, that will finally change. And the title most accomplished player should always go to a captain, because he is the heart of the team, and the main reason it's succesful. so I also say kuro;) I'm just trying to be open minded here but if your discussing the most accomplished team, then 1st you would seperate the TI winners, yes? Navi, IG, Alliance, Newbie, Evil Geniuses, Wings, Liquid, and OG. No one has won twice as someone previously stated, so factor in the placings. It comes down to Evil Geniuses. The only other thing I think that can be entertained is how high does the public hold the Majors? Even if people want to say they are structured similarly to TI, they ARE NOT TI. But Throwing all this together would mean it has to be between OG and EG, not 'Depends on who you are a fan of', as the poster stated. I would say, after looking at all the placings between the 2 of the Internationals and the Majors, it just has to be Evil Geniuses. They were runner up, or 3rd in almost all of them or atleast the ones that OG won. So yes OG did win those Majors, but then you move on to the big daddy of the scoring sheet, The International. Evil Geniuses placings in The international paired with their win at TI5 should flat out push them into the lead of best team of all time, even if it's just by a nose. I understand people will argue this till the end of day, but when you take all of these things into account, personally I dont see how it could be any other team, I know I can't be the only one out there that sees it this way, and I'm not even a biased EG fan. Feel like you're missing the fact that EG never won anything significant apart from DAC and TI.
DAC was like a major back in the day. OG also won nothing significant besides a TI and 4 majors. In other tournaments they placed pretty badly. There were other important tournaments before the major era, they just were not called like that. If you go after tournament wins TL has the most of any pro team i think. its all about the perspective dude;)
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On September 25 2018 06:14 hunter_x wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2018 19:23 haxhax wrote:On September 24 2018 08:44 JGwinworth1 wrote:On September 24 2018 07:49 hunter_x wrote:On September 24 2018 06:51 haxhax wrote:People are never gonna run out of excuses for when OG wins. Figure it's because they were never the team of players that were (in the reddit popularity contest) considered the best, so some people simply refuse to acknowledge the fact that OG has time and time again proven itself to be the best team in dota. On September 24 2018 06:16 LemOn wrote:
Kuro is the most accomplished player in history is pretty much the only thing everyone can agree on that would be n0tail time and time again? yeah but with different rosters, and over 1 year, in which they were Tier 2/3. You cant even say its the original OG, only notail is left. OG isn't clearly the best team of all time, neither is Liquid. Depends on who you are a fan of. Maybe when a team wins the Aegis twice, that will finally change. And the title most accomplished player should always go to a captain, because he is the heart of the team, and the main reason it's succesful. so I also say kuro;) I'm just trying to be open minded here but if your discussing the most accomplished team, then 1st you would seperate the TI winners, yes? Navi, IG, Alliance, Newbie, Evil Geniuses, Wings, Liquid, and OG. No one has won twice as someone previously stated, so factor in the placings. It comes down to Evil Geniuses. The only other thing I think that can be entertained is how high does the public hold the Majors? Even if people want to say they are structured similarly to TI, they ARE NOT TI. But Throwing all this together would mean it has to be between OG and EG, not 'Depends on who you are a fan of', as the poster stated. I would say, after looking at all the placings between the 2 of the Internationals and the Majors, it just has to be Evil Geniuses. They were runner up, or 3rd in almost all of them or atleast the ones that OG won. So yes OG did win those Majors, but then you move on to the big daddy of the scoring sheet, The International. Evil Geniuses placings in The international paired with their win at TI5 should flat out push them into the lead of best team of all time, even if it's just by a nose. I understand people will argue this till the end of day, but when you take all of these things into account, personally I dont see how it could be any other team, I know I can't be the only one out there that sees it this way, and I'm not even a biased EG fan. Feel like you're missing the fact that EG never won anything significant apart from DAC and TI. DAC was like a major back in the day. OG also won nothing significant besides a TI and 4 majors. In other tournaments they placed pretty badly. There were other important tournaments before the major era, they just were not called like that. If you go after tournament wins TL has the most of any pro team i think. its all about the perspective dude;)
I don't think TL has the most tournament wins. Granted, it's really hard to tell because Liquipedia includes qualifiers so you have to actually manually count, but I think comparing VP, EG and Liquid, I think Liquid is behind. Na'vi is included as well depending on how you count the pre-LAN days.
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On September 24 2018 15:58 Toshiru wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2018 08:44 JGwinworth1 wrote:On September 24 2018 07:49 hunter_x wrote:On September 24 2018 06:51 haxhax wrote:People are never gonna run out of excuses for when OG wins. Figure it's because they were never the team of players that were (in the reddit popularity contest) considered the best, so some people simply refuse to acknowledge the fact that OG has time and time again proven itself to be the best team in dota. On September 24 2018 06:16 LemOn wrote:
Kuro is the most accomplished player in history is pretty much the only thing everyone can agree on that would be n0tail time and time again? yeah but with different rosters, and over 1 year, in which they were Tier 2/3. You cant even say its the original OG, only notail is left. OG isn't clearly the best team of all time, neither is Liquid. Depends on who you are a fan of. Maybe when a team wins the Aegis twice, that will finally change. And the title most accomplished player should always go to a captain, because he is the heart of the team, and the main reason it's succesful. so I also say kuro;) I'm just trying to be open minded here but if your discussing the most accomplished team, then 1st you would seperate the TI winners, yes? Navi, IG, Alliance, Newbie, Evil Geniuses, Wings, Liquid, and OG. No one has won twice as someone previously stated, so factor in the placings. It comes down to Evil Geniuses. The only other thing I think that can be entertained is how high does the public hold the Majors? Even if people want to say they are structured similarly to TI, they ARE NOT TI. But Throwing all this together would mean it has to be between OG and EG, not 'Depends on who you are a fan of', as the poster stated. I would say, after looking at all the placings between the 2 of the Internationals and the Majors, it just has to be Evil Geniuses. They were runner up, or 3rd in almost all of them or atleast the ones that OG won. So yes OG did win those Majors, but then you move on to the big daddy of the scoring sheet, The International. Evil Geniuses placings in The international paired with their win at TI5 should flat out push them into the lead of best team of all time, even if it's just by a nose. I understand people will argue this till the end of day, but when you take all of these things into account, personally I dont see how it could be any other team, I know I can't be the only one out there that sees it this way, and I'm not even a biased EG fan. I agree with this perspective . Obviously I am a TL supporter but considering the history of Dota2 I would say that EG are clearly the most successful team, for now :D
EG the most successful? Throughout last season, they only earned $504k. While VP earned the most at $2.5M, Liquid comes second at $1.8M.
Who's successful now? Even EG's org knew they weren't doing well at all.
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On September 25 2018 12:54 nikkipaniki wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2018 15:58 Toshiru wrote:On September 24 2018 08:44 JGwinworth1 wrote:On September 24 2018 07:49 hunter_x wrote:On September 24 2018 06:51 haxhax wrote:People are never gonna run out of excuses for when OG wins. Figure it's because they were never the team of players that were (in the reddit popularity contest) considered the best, so some people simply refuse to acknowledge the fact that OG has time and time again proven itself to be the best team in dota. On September 24 2018 06:16 LemOn wrote:
Kuro is the most accomplished player in history is pretty much the only thing everyone can agree on that would be n0tail time and time again? yeah but with different rosters, and over 1 year, in which they were Tier 2/3. You cant even say its the original OG, only notail is left. OG isn't clearly the best team of all time, neither is Liquid. Depends on who you are a fan of. Maybe when a team wins the Aegis twice, that will finally change. And the title most accomplished player should always go to a captain, because he is the heart of the team, and the main reason it's succesful. so I also say kuro;) I'm just trying to be open minded here but if your discussing the most accomplished team, then 1st you would seperate the TI winners, yes? Navi, IG, Alliance, Newbie, Evil Geniuses, Wings, Liquid, and OG. No one has won twice as someone previously stated, so factor in the placings. It comes down to Evil Geniuses. The only other thing I think that can be entertained is how high does the public hold the Majors? Even if people want to say they are structured similarly to TI, they ARE NOT TI. But Throwing all this together would mean it has to be between OG and EG, not 'Depends on who you are a fan of', as the poster stated. I would say, after looking at all the placings between the 2 of the Internationals and the Majors, it just has to be Evil Geniuses. They were runner up, or 3rd in almost all of them or atleast the ones that OG won. So yes OG did win those Majors, but then you move on to the big daddy of the scoring sheet, The International. Evil Geniuses placings in The international paired with their win at TI5 should flat out push them into the lead of best team of all time, even if it's just by a nose. I understand people will argue this till the end of day, but when you take all of these things into account, personally I dont see how it could be any other team, I know I can't be the only one out there that sees it this way, and I'm not even a biased EG fan. I agree with this perspective . Obviously I am a TL supporter but considering the history of Dota2 I would say that EG are clearly the most successful team, for now :D EG the most successful? Throughout last season, they only earned $504k. While VP earned the most at $2.5M, Liquid comes second at $1.8M. Who's successful now? Even EG's org knew they weren't doing well at all.
I am not just considering last season though. Considering all the dota2 I followed, TI3 and onwards (my perspective) it seems to me that EG has been the most successful one , mostly taking in consideration TI though.
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On September 25 2018 06:14 hunter_x wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2018 19:23 haxhax wrote:On September 24 2018 08:44 JGwinworth1 wrote:On September 24 2018 07:49 hunter_x wrote:On September 24 2018 06:51 haxhax wrote:People are never gonna run out of excuses for when OG wins. Figure it's because they were never the team of players that were (in the reddit popularity contest) considered the best, so some people simply refuse to acknowledge the fact that OG has time and time again proven itself to be the best team in dota. On September 24 2018 06:16 LemOn wrote:
Kuro is the most accomplished player in history is pretty much the only thing everyone can agree on that would be n0tail time and time again? yeah but with different rosters, and over 1 year, in which they were Tier 2/3. You cant even say its the original OG, only notail is left. OG isn't clearly the best team of all time, neither is Liquid. Depends on who you are a fan of. Maybe when a team wins the Aegis twice, that will finally change. And the title most accomplished player should always go to a captain, because he is the heart of the team, and the main reason it's succesful. so I also say kuro;) I'm just trying to be open minded here but if your discussing the most accomplished team, then 1st you would seperate the TI winners, yes? Navi, IG, Alliance, Newbie, Evil Geniuses, Wings, Liquid, and OG. No one has won twice as someone previously stated, so factor in the placings. It comes down to Evil Geniuses. The only other thing I think that can be entertained is how high does the public hold the Majors? Even if people want to say they are structured similarly to TI, they ARE NOT TI. But Throwing all this together would mean it has to be between OG and EG, not 'Depends on who you are a fan of', as the poster stated. I would say, after looking at all the placings between the 2 of the Internationals and the Majors, it just has to be Evil Geniuses. They were runner up, or 3rd in almost all of them or atleast the ones that OG won. So yes OG did win those Majors, but then you move on to the big daddy of the scoring sheet, The International. Evil Geniuses placings in The international paired with their win at TI5 should flat out push them into the lead of best team of all time, even if it's just by a nose. I understand people will argue this till the end of day, but when you take all of these things into account, personally I dont see how it could be any other team, I know I can't be the only one out there that sees it this way, and I'm not even a biased EG fan. Feel like you're missing the fact that EG never won anything significant apart from DAC and TI. DAC was like a major back in the day. OG also won nothing significant besides a TI and 4 majors. In other tournaments they placed pretty badly. There were other important tournaments before the major era, they just were not called like that. If you go after tournament wins TL has the most of any pro team i think. its all about the perspective dude;)
Yes, it is true that OG won nothing significant except TI and 4 out of the 5 next biggest non-TI tournaments.
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On September 25 2018 15:46 Toshiru wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2018 12:54 nikkipaniki wrote:On September 24 2018 15:58 Toshiru wrote:On September 24 2018 08:44 JGwinworth1 wrote:On September 24 2018 07:49 hunter_x wrote:On September 24 2018 06:51 haxhax wrote:People are never gonna run out of excuses for when OG wins. Figure it's because they were never the team of players that were (in the reddit popularity contest) considered the best, so some people simply refuse to acknowledge the fact that OG has time and time again proven itself to be the best team in dota. On September 24 2018 06:16 LemOn wrote:
Kuro is the most accomplished player in history is pretty much the only thing everyone can agree on that would be n0tail time and time again? yeah but with different rosters, and over 1 year, in which they were Tier 2/3. You cant even say its the original OG, only notail is left. OG isn't clearly the best team of all time, neither is Liquid. Depends on who you are a fan of. Maybe when a team wins the Aegis twice, that will finally change. And the title most accomplished player should always go to a captain, because he is the heart of the team, and the main reason it's succesful. so I also say kuro;) I'm just trying to be open minded here but if your discussing the most accomplished team, then 1st you would seperate the TI winners, yes? Navi, IG, Alliance, Newbie, Evil Geniuses, Wings, Liquid, and OG. No one has won twice as someone previously stated, so factor in the placings. It comes down to Evil Geniuses. The only other thing I think that can be entertained is how high does the public hold the Majors? Even if people want to say they are structured similarly to TI, they ARE NOT TI. But Throwing all this together would mean it has to be between OG and EG, not 'Depends on who you are a fan of', as the poster stated. I would say, after looking at all the placings between the 2 of the Internationals and the Majors, it just has to be Evil Geniuses. They were runner up, or 3rd in almost all of them or atleast the ones that OG won. So yes OG did win those Majors, but then you move on to the big daddy of the scoring sheet, The International. Evil Geniuses placings in The international paired with their win at TI5 should flat out push them into the lead of best team of all time, even if it's just by a nose. I understand people will argue this till the end of day, but when you take all of these things into account, personally I dont see how it could be any other team, I know I can't be the only one out there that sees it this way, and I'm not even a biased EG fan. I agree with this perspective . Obviously I am a TL supporter but considering the history of Dota2 I would say that EG are clearly the most successful team, for now :D EG the most successful? Throughout last season, they only earned $504k. While VP earned the most at $2.5M, Liquid comes second at $1.8M. Who's successful now? Even EG's org knew they weren't doing well at all. I am not just considering last season though. Considering all the dota2 I followed, TI3 and onwards (my perspective) it seems to me that EG has been the most successful one , mostly taking in consideration TI though.
Navi 1st +2nd+2nd on TI
while doing great in other tourneys also
different era
pointless discussion really
again only clear thing is that historically Kuro is the best
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TOP 5 earning teams of dota 2 (all time)
1. Evil Geniuses-------$17,861,142.05-------94 Tournaments
2. Team OG------------$17,561,348.00-------42 Tournaments
3. Team Liquid---------$17,335,099.10-------73 Tournaments
4. Newbee--------------$12,551,011.86------- 83 Tournaments
5. Wings Gaming----- $9,712,413.00---------19 Tournaments
Note:- VP and NA'VI has highest tournament wins of all time and OG has the highest number of wins in shortest time.
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This whole discussion started, when i talked about TL's quality of play pos TI win year. And in that matter - there is NO competition.
Ofcourse, Na'Vi Did better. but thre were pretty much 2-3 good teams back then.
Yes, there are teams that won more, but the number of teams that actually play awesome dota actually trippled post TI6 i think, these days the competition is insane. And post TI6, there are only two and a half teams that are consistent - VP, Liquid and Secret. These days the competition is very serious, as people are studying the best teams, and are learning fast.
Really it doesn't matter who the best team was / is. I like to watch good dota. Probably we all do.
And im pretty sure this year will be better than all in the past.
GoodGamess. All i want.
P.S. Hopefully we can qualify without Matu to DL
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On September 25 2018 22:41 NInoff wrote:
This whole discussion started, when i talked about TL's quality of play pos TI win year. And in that matter - there is NO competition.
Ofcourse, Na'Vi Did better. but thre were pretty much 2-3 good teams back then.
Yes, there are teams that won more, but the number of teams that actually play awesome dota actually trippled post TI6 i think, these days the competition is insane. And post TI6, there are only two and a half teams that are consistent - VP, Liquid and Secret. These days the competition is very serious, as people are studying the best teams, and are learning fast.
Really it doesn't matter who the best team was / is. I like to watch good dota. Probably we all do.
And im pretty sure this year will be better than all in the past.
GoodGamess. All i want.
P.S. Hopefully we can qualify without Matu to DL
Wings gaming would have dominted post TI6, nobody could beat them but sadly because of an argument they got banned by ACE and their careers got destroyed.
The reason TL survived post TI because the patches were not too far off the last one as the whole game was being constantly reworked and as TI8 approached the patches starting to differ alot and now we will again see some really insane patches.
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Liquid 2k MMr confirmed. Kuro doesn't know what to pick vs PL.
Im pretty sure someone will really say thats a fact
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something feels so wrong for TL these days
losing to T3 team is just... i dont know
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They are in a pretty deep slump unfortunately. So many questionable things in that game 1.....
lets hope they get a grip on themselves and dont miss out on the Minor
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They should've just replace Matu with an actual fucking core player or sat this qualifier out. I feel like the team has been overworked and now they're just trying for absolutely no good reason at all when they could be taking a bit of a break.
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On September 26 2018 02:41 juuto wrote:
They should've just replace Matu with an actual fucking core player or sat this qualifier out. I feel like the team has been overworked and now they're just trying for absolutely no good reason at all when they could be taking a bit of a break.
Maybe they don't want to play the major, like i said before, but they have sponsor contracts that forces them to play the qualifiers?
Hmm or maybe they just don't know how to draft / lane against random pub players + bone7?
Hmm maybe just disband and stop playing dota? Hmm...
Yeah thats it! All those last two years, were lucky drafts, and misclicks in to kills.
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5955 Posts
welp, lets hope the Lower bracket goes better :S
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EPT
