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Rewan
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Germany16 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-03 13:33:07
September 28 2015 21:02 GMT
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Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1753 Posts
September 28 2015 21:20 GMT
#2
Liking in general how this team plays, their picks are generally quite different than most (fata loving the razor and beastmaster, lots of random stuff from MC).
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hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
September 28 2015 21:31 GMT
#3
thanks for making this thread, is was too lazy;)
pretty big fan, i like all their players. they also have pretty cool drafts, and seem too understand the patch pretty well already.
Rewan
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany16 Posts
September 28 2015 22:50 GMT
#4
thanks for making this thread, is was too lazy;)


No problem. I read the discussion in the (monkey) buisness thread and thought the Jungz should really have their own one.
aboxcar
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States447 Posts
September 29 2015 02:48 GMT
#5
that logo is pretty neat

anyone else kind of see a girl's face? or is it just my headache
everything that rises must converge
sweetkay
Profile Joined January 2015
206 Posts
September 29 2015 03:30 GMT
#6
Yeah solid play from this team. I'd say Secret, monkey business and 5jungz are the European teams to look out for this season (No didn't include VP. Thats CIS).
broodbucket
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia963 Posts
September 29 2015 04:58 GMT
#7
On September 29 2015 11:48 aboxcar wrote:
that logo is pretty neat

anyone else kind of see a girl's face? or is it just my headache

can you scribble the features you see over the logo? I can't see this at all
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
September 29 2015 05:15 GMT
#8
for a team name so forgettable, the logo is pretty boss!
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
aboxcar
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States447 Posts
September 29 2015 06:32 GMT
#9
On September 29 2015 13:58 broodbucket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 11:48 aboxcar wrote:
that logo is pretty neat

anyone else kind of see a girl's face? or is it just my headache

can you scribble the features you see over the logo? I can't see this at all


the shield outlines the contours of the face, the 5 is the mouth, and the beak is where the eyes would be and other parts of the bird sort of suggest a nose/hair/some mask

dno it's kind of abstract but it's the where my head went when I first saw the logo.. probably aided by my near-sightedness
everything that rises must converge
Fonsie
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany54 Posts
September 29 2015 08:45 GMT
#10
Well I still think Monkey Business and Secret will be the Top EU Teams, but 5 Jungz have 1 advantage till now that is Kuroky as captain. He seems to understand the new patch pretty well, because they kinda outdrafted Monkey Business in every game.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
September 29 2015 10:31 GMT
#11
On September 29 2015 15:32 aboxcar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 13:58 broodbucket wrote:
On September 29 2015 11:48 aboxcar wrote:
that logo is pretty neat

anyone else kind of see a girl's face? or is it just my headache

can you scribble the features you see over the logo? I can't see this at all


the shield outlines the contours of the face, the 5 is the mouth, and the beak is where the eyes would be and other parts of the bird sort of suggest a nose/hair/some mask

dno it's kind of abstract but it's the where my head went when I first saw the logo.. probably aided by my near-sightedness

kinda slightly like an emo look with the hair covering her eyes?? thats what i can see
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Anamorph
Profile Joined September 2015
236 Posts
September 29 2015 10:54 GMT
#12
On September 29 2015 17:45 Fonsie wrote:
Well I still think Monkey Business and Secret will be the Top EU Teams, but 5 Jungz have 1 advantage till now that is Kuroky as captain. He seems to understand the new patch pretty well, because they kinda outdrafted Monkey Business in every game.


I would not go with this,
Monkey Business got Miracle and thats it. Notail on that core position is nothing that I would call a t1 team performer. He is solid and he is notail, but he still shines more as 4th position.

Their offlane can t get compared to MC.. MC is a damn good offlane, I would rly go with the statement, he is top 5 offlanes in the world. Super solid, wide hero pool. It s just a matter of time people will call him one of the best.

Kky was often criticized for the drafts, but he learns fast and adapts fast. At the start they rly struggled against PL teams, thats it. They had no concept for and this problem is solved. He is a good drafter - after so much years with puppey it s nothing someone should be surprised.

if you compare jerax to crit.. there is a world between. I could start with a detailled analysis, but in the end it comes down to, I think 5Jungz got more potential than monkey.

but let s see how it goes.




DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
September 29 2015 11:21 GMT
#13
On September 29 2015 19:54 Anamorph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 17:45 Fonsie wrote:
Well I still think Monkey Business and Secret will be the Top EU Teams, but 5 Jungz have 1 advantage till now that is Kuroky as captain. He seems to understand the new patch pretty well, because they kinda outdrafted Monkey Business in every game.


I would not go with this,
Monkey Business got Miracle and thats it. Notail on that core position is nothing that I would call a t1 team performer. He is solid and he is notail, but he still shines more as 4th position.

Their offlane can t get compared to MC.. MC is a damn good offlane, I would rly go with the statement, he is top 5 offlanes in the world. Super solid, wide hero pool. It s just a matter of time people will call him one of the best.

Kky was often criticized for the drafts, but he learns fast and adapts fast. At the start they rly struggled against PL teams, thats it. They had no concept for and this problem is solved. He is a good drafter - after so much years with puppey it s nothing someone should be surprised.

if you compare jerax to crit.. there is a world between. I could start with a detailled analysis, but in the end it comes down to, I think 5Jungz got more potential than monkey.

but let s see how it goes.






I don't think Cr1t is inferior to jerax. That said they have different play styles too.

As a whole, I do prefer 5jungz because I only value miracle as exceptional, and the rest average (8k + four 4k hehehhee). Meanwhile fata Kuro and mc are very very good players.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-29 23:07:13
September 29 2015 17:14 GMT
#14
Sry for doublepost
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-29 17:16:14
September 29 2015 17:14 GMT
#15
On September 30 2015 02:14 hunter_x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 19:54 Anamorph wrote:
On September 29 2015 17:45 Fonsie wrote:
Well I still think Monkey Business and Secret will be the Top EU Teams, but 5 Jungz have 1 advantage till now that is Kuroky as captain. He seems to understand the new patch pretty well, because they kinda outdrafted Monkey Business in every game.


I would not go with this,
Monkey Business got Miracle and thats it. Notail on that core position is nothing that I would call a t1 team performer. He is solid and he is notail, but he still shines more as 4th position.

Their offlane can t get compared to MC.. MC is a damn good offlane, I would rly go with the statement, he is top 5 offlanes in the world. Super solid, wide hero pool. It s just a matter of time people will call him one of the best.

Kky was often criticized for the drafts, but he learns fast and adapts fast. At the start they rly struggled against PL teams, thats it. They had no concept for and this problem is solved. He is a good drafter - after so much years with puppey it s nothing someone should be surprised.

if you compare jerax to crit.. there is a world between. I could start with a detailled analysis, but in the end it comes down to, I think 5Jungz got more potential than monkey.

but let s see how it goes.







i would agree. everyone except miracle is worse on their position compared to the players from 5 jungz. and matumbaman is still pretty damn good. the most important thing in my eyes, is that kuro is atm a better drafter and captain then fly, and i doubt that will change soon. but everything can happen in dota, who knows...
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28092 Posts
September 29 2015 17:37 GMT
#16
I feel like Mind_Control can be one of the top players given more time. He's really impressive to me, he just doesn't stand out as much because he's not playing 1-2. And yeah overall this team has performed far better than MB.
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Super_Style
Profile Joined February 2015
296 Posts
September 29 2015 17:47 GMT
#17
Gotta agree with some comments, MC looks super good to me, probably the best offlaner in EU atm. Really loved his performance lately.
villainzilla
Profile Joined July 2014
Philippines192 Posts
September 29 2015 23:30 GMT
#18
What exactly does the team name even mean
unsaeglich
Profile Joined June 2015
260 Posts
September 29 2015 23:58 GMT
#19
the teamname is literally 5 Boyz in German. I still wouldn't call them a German stack when only 2/5 Players are German.. It's annoying.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
September 30 2015 00:18 GMT
#20
On September 30 2015 08:58 unsaeglich wrote:
the teamname is literally 5 Boyz in German. I still wouldn't call them a German stack when only 2/5 Players are German.. It's annoying.

control-f "german stack" only brings up your post

i think ppl have stopped calling them that since they actually revealed their roster and it wasnt full german like the old rumors said
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