The competition on ICCUP is pretty strong. - Page 4

On January 18 2009 15:33 Puosu wrote:

Shouldn't you be playing AttackZerg right now?

Tbh. I'd be far more interested in replays versus good opponents and not random C- iccup players. :/

On January 18 2009 15:10 AttackZerg wrote:


Actually yes mutas > archons esp on destination in at the third base.

You are not a good player so do not ever speak down to me about broodwar.

I've known day since before he was good and as he got good, Day was never a world class zerg either. Very good and very smart and over 300 apm since 2004, but not world class.

You played in a useast bubble and thought the people you played with were good. Fact is you were never good, and you weren't playing against koreans like the rest of the decent gamers were back in 2003-2004.

I'll say it again, there was nobody on earth who could do what we do with mutas now back in 2004.

You aren't playing good players , so don't act like you know about the game yet.

(P.s the trick to killing 4 archons to to begin killing them as they leave protoss base, by halfway across the map , you can have 1 killed, every time protoss is on a bridge you can bring 1 archon below 30% health without taking a hit, and also using zealots to riochet shots onto them, since mutas will always bounce left if the gauve worm can, a sunken line also makes it easy to get archons to move forward and then back ... but you know all this because your a c- gosu right?)

On January 18 2009 15:29 JoeSaddles wrote:


actually i base my argument off a pro league tournament where they were both pros and 6 pool won vs FE...............

On January 18 2009 15:48 NoobsOfWrath wrote:


Wanna make a bet game that I can kill your 11 mutas with my 4 archons? To make it more realistic, you also have to continuously be macroing 4 bases



Lol what an ignorant post from the guy refuting saddles. 5 pool has been used in TONS of pro games against FE and not ended the game but allowed the Z to get far enough ahead to win.

Also, I'm pretty sure if u let saddles practice for a few weeks he'll rape you, attackzerg. I don't like saddle's attitude much, but I like yours even less.

On January 14 2009 04:14 JoeSaddles wrote:
I'm sorry but on ANY map if the zerg knows you're gonna fast expand and wants to stop it he can easily do so. Especially if he knows you're gonna do it every game.... it could be stopped with simply lots of early lings and constant scouting on your expansion site.

On January 18 2009 14:32 JoeSaddles wrote:
modern mutalisk micro to me is as strong as GOOD zergs used to do it back in the day.

It just seems that now even the average and above average zergs are microing their mutas very well, as before it was only the best zergs who were microing them that well.

On January 18 2009 15:28 JoeSaddles wrote:



have the protoss vs zerg overall statistics really gone up that much since FE??? whats the win rate for protoss vs zerg overall in pro league??

On January 18 2009 16:00 Hot_Bid wrote:



This is also just wrong, muta micro has improved leaps and bounds since 2004 because I don't think grouping with overlord or larvae was even invented then. It's vastly, vastly different for TvZ ever since mutas became really ridiculous around 2007ish. Before then, only July was doing it, after, just about everyone can. I don't know if you play TvZ but saying modern micro is as strong as good zergs used to do back in 2004 is nuts, just watch the VODs, its totally different.

On January 18 2009 16:15 JoeSaddles wrote:
and yah i agree with u guys completely that FE is the new best build for most maps. nowadays the starting spots are farther on most maps than they used to be... remember the days of p2h luna LT etc? nowadays the spots are farther, so FE is obviously going to work better.

I was wrong when I made that statement 4 days ago, didn't realize how big FE has become, it is now going to be the staple of my PvZ lol =p

On January 18 2009 14:09 CDRdude wrote:
What do you think about modern mutalisk micro? Have you tried offracing, to see what other new strats are like from different perspectives?

On January 18 2009 16:54 Luddite wrote:
Saddles, when you used to play there was no LAN latency for online play, right? How do you think that has affected the game? I know that I personally started to appreciate the game a lot more after I started playing on ICCUP, since there was no one nearby that I could LAN with.