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Red.Cloud
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada235 Posts
January 18 2009 20:47 GMT
#101
attackzerg vs saddles going on yet?.?
JoeSaddles
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States344 Posts
January 18 2009 20:48 GMT
#102
On January 18 2009 20:47 Boblion wrote:
Huge respect for you Saddles for coming back and dropping the "I own them all attitude".
Good luck and thanks for the replays.
Even if your macro isn't really good for nowadays standarts i like how you play



maybe give me more than 5 days of practice before just saying my macro is no good for today's standards? trust me my macro will be much much better in a few more days of practice.
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/SaddleS.html
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
January 18 2009 20:49 GMT
#103
Aren't you the one that you will hit the B ranks in short time?
JoeSaddles
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States344 Posts
January 18 2009 20:53 GMT
#104
On January 19 2009 05:49 koreasilver wrote:
Aren't you the one that you will hit the B ranks in short time?


you don't think that within another week to ten days or so of practice i'll be able to hit B ranks? about half of my losses on my page right now are to very skilled players who have just reset or not ranked up yet., not C players. I will be able to get B rank on this ladder......
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/SaddleS.html
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
January 18 2009 21:06 GMT
#105
On January 19 2009 05:53 JoeSaddles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2009 05:49 koreasilver wrote:
Aren't you the one that you will hit the B ranks in short time?


you don't think that within another week to ten days or so of practice i'll be able to hit B ranks? about half of my losses on my page right now are to very skilled players who have just reset or not ranked up yet., not C players. I will be able to get B rank on this ladder......


We shall see...
but I bet you're in for a surprise at the blue ranks, gl
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-18 21:13:06
January 18 2009 21:12 GMT
#106
Saddles, you will not be able to get to B for a while from what replays I've seen from you. Your records also show that you are unable to take games to the late game. The only thing that people have to do to win against you is play safe.

Your micro and macro are nothing special, and your apm is not going to suddenly shoot up from 150 to 250 after a few days. It's good that you have acknowledged that iCCup is harder than you thought from before, but you are still rather ignorant and it's obvious that you still have not lost your arrogance, and what you've been showing here is just feigned humility.

You are still overrating yourself.
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
January 18 2009 21:22 GMT
#107
i think he will get C+ in the next two months.

he's got the skills and the motivation.

I am not good with quotes
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
January 18 2009 21:26 GMT
#108
On January 18 2009 15:04 JoeSaddles wrote:please dont turn the thread into a flame fest anyway, im just here to post reps and talk strategy about brood war, not argue.


Okay my bad, you're DEFINITELY a troll. There's no possible way anyone with any measure of sanity would say that after your response of

On January 18 2009 15:01 JoeSaddles wrote:
1. there is no way 11 mutas would ever beat 4 archons if the protoss has half a brain and knows how to micro them... 2 archons yah, but not 4.

2. i've seen some very good zerg micro in my day in lots of live games, rs.day[9] had insane micro for ALL his units, and satanik among others had really really good muta micro.... can't remember exactly which zerg I played had the best muta micro but I remember playing zergs who were absolutely ridiculous with them

'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25996 Posts
January 18 2009 21:35 GMT
#109
On January 19 2009 05:48 JoeSaddles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2009 20:47 Boblion wrote:
Huge respect for you Saddles for coming back and dropping the "I own them all attitude".
Good luck and thanks for the replays.
Even if your macro isn't really good for nowadays standarts i like how you play



maybe give me more than 5 days of practice before just saying my macro is no good for today's standards? trust me my macro will be much much better in a few more days of practice.

You have bad macro now. Let's see what you can do in the future.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25996 Posts
January 18 2009 21:45 GMT
#110
Also:
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
January 18 2009 21:54 GMT
#111
On January 19 2009 05:53 JoeSaddles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2009 05:49 koreasilver wrote:
Aren't you the one that you will hit the B ranks in short time?

you don't think that within another week to ten days or so of practice i'll be able to hit B ranks? about half of my losses on my page right now are to very skilled players who have just reset or not ranked up yet., not C players. I will be able to get B rank on this ladder......

while this may or may not be true, and you may or may not be overrating yourself, you did say you'd make B after "a few days" and you aren't even close, so between that an the incorrect strategy assumptions, it's pretty understandable people aren't taking your next declaration seriously. at this point, you won't be able to prove anything through words, only through actual ranking.
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Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-18 21:55:53
January 18 2009 21:54 GMT
#112
What if he has already got to B in past seasons?
What if he never did quit StarCraft?
all we know he is now JoeSaddles again : )
+ Show Spoiler +
Just asking.. ; )
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
January 18 2009 22:28 GMT
#113
You're not getting B in a couple of weeks ;P. The jump from C to B is huge (heck from C+ to B- is huge), and you actually need to learn to play a late macro game by C+. Eventually, you're timing attacks aren't going to work anymore, and you'll truly see the difference.
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10829 Posts
January 18 2009 22:46 GMT
#114
one simple solution is simple to start up TSL2 with the ladder phase again. then he'll see exactly how much "worse" the current foreigner scene is compared to a few years ago.

or... you can simply run into the brick wall known as blue-ranked koreans.
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JoeSaddles
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States344 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-18 23:00:10
January 18 2009 22:54 GMT
#115
Im not doubting that the hundreds of blue koreans will stop me.. I never said I would get to A rank. Barely any foreigners can.



All I said was that within another week or two I'll be blue ranked and playing games against them, I didn't realize how long it would take me to get back into shape.

and yes my APM definitely will go from 150 to 250 as i practice more. I've already played a few games today with 225 apm, my hands are getting faster.

http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/SaddleS.html
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
January 18 2009 22:56 GMT
#116
On January 19 2009 06:12 koreasilver wrote:
Saddles, you will not be able to get to B for a while from what replays I've seen from you. Your records also show that you are unable to take games to the late game. The only thing that people have to do to win against you is play safe.

Your micro and macro are nothing special, and your apm is not going to suddenly shoot up from 150 to 250 after a few days. It's good that you have acknowledged that iCCup is harder than you thought from before, but you are still rather ignorant and it's obvious that you still have not lost your arrogance, and what you've been showing here is just feigned humility.

You are still overrating yourself.


Mostly truth right here. You're doing rushy builds that if people defended you'd be over run by macro. 2 gating on python can get you pretty far even if you can't micro it very well. In any rep you've posted there's no real mirco just 1a2a3a. And most of your opponents you beat arent good, can't deal with early pressure, or/and have inflated stats so don't take them too to heart.

Macro suddenly does not drastically improve over a few days. Unless you mean from d- level to being able to do it properly. In your case I guess it could.

gl hf
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25996 Posts
January 18 2009 23:03 GMT
#117
On January 19 2009 07:54 JoeSaddles wrote:
Im not doubting that the hundreds of blue koreans will stop me.. I never said I would get to A rank. Barely any foreigners can.



All I said was that within another week or two I'll be blue ranked and playing games against them, I didn't realize how long it would take me to get back into shape.

and yes my APM definitely will go from 150 to 250 as i practice more. I've already played a few games today with 225 apm, my hands are getting faster.


It's you getting back in shape, but moreso it's that everyone has gotten way better. Please figure this out.
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JoeSaddles
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States344 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-18 23:25:35
January 18 2009 23:06 GMT
#118
On January 19 2009 08:03 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2009 07:54 JoeSaddles wrote:
Im not doubting that the hundreds of blue koreans will stop me.. I never said I would get to A rank. Barely any foreigners can.



All I said was that within another week or two I'll be blue ranked and playing games against them, I didn't realize how long it would take me to get back into shape.

and yes my APM definitely will go from 150 to 250 as i practice more. I've already played a few games today with 225 apm, my hands are getting faster.


It's you getting back in shape, but moreso it's that everyone has gotten way better. Please figure this out.



i can tell by the way im playing (like about 50% good as i used to) that it is indeed a lot about me getting back into shape. The competition has improved a lot yah, but I am not playing very good right now.

my macro once practiced again is NOT bad at all.

I'm playing like CRAP right now and yet I'm C ranked 41-20 in 4 days. I do not think it will take me "2 months to get to C+" and whatever else you guys are saying.... I think some of these comments are way off.
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/SaddleS.html
CapO
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1615 Posts
January 18 2009 23:10 GMT
#119
please stop blogging and just get to "B" asap.
thx
bye.
SNSD fan
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25996 Posts
January 18 2009 23:15 GMT
#120
On January 19 2009 08:06 JoeSaddles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2009 08:03 Chill wrote:
On January 19 2009 07:54 JoeSaddles wrote:
Im not doubting that the hundreds of blue koreans will stop me.. I never said I would get to A rank. Barely any foreigners can.



All I said was that within another week or two I'll be blue ranked and playing games against them, I didn't realize how long it would take me to get back into shape.

and yes my APM definitely will go from 150 to 250 as i practice more. I've already played a few games today with 225 apm, my hands are getting faster.


It's you getting back in shape, but moreso it's that everyone has gotten way better. Please figure this out.

I think some of these comments are way off.

I agree.
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