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On April 15 2014 19:20 Orcasgt24 wrote:
And the point of the trial on the last few charges is????? Hes gonna get like 103 5 year sentences. Not even worth wasting time or money to do the rest of the charges he is fighting
i think the defense wants 5 years for all 103 charges.
and i think the 5 charges he is fighting will lead to him being assigned "dangerous offender" status if he is convicted.
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On April 15 2014 23:55 QuanticHawk wrote:
hahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahah
Might as well pay our third pairing D-men what we pay our fourth line center, yeah?
Excuse me while I go cry in the corner.
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On April 15 2014 23:55 QuanticHawk wrote:
andrew mcdonald, an islanders castoff who has been playing normal average third pairing minutes and getting hammered for philly, just got 6yrs/30m. He will be making more that the following: Keith, Seabrook, Ekman-Larsson, Yandle, Byfuglien, McDonagh, Subban, Bogosian, Kronwall, Giordano, Hedman
hahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahah
ROFL
How do some of these clown GMs have jobs?
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If he's making less than Mezaros was I can 'live' with it.
This team though... should never trust their opinions on any defenseman or goaltender. Forwards we can find. Everything else is between bad and horrid.
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Awesome. He can line up with Mark Streit and you'd have the two worst defensive contracts in the league on the ice at the same time.
edit: Not including Brian Campbell, lol.
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Also, draft lottery tonight.
THIS IS OUR STANLEY CUP!!
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On April 16 2014 00:59 LeLoup wrote:
If he's making less than Mezaros was I can 'live' with it.
This team though... should never trust their opinions on any defenseman or goaltender. Forwards we can find. Everything else is between bad and horrid.
Mezaros was a 4m cap hit. He's 5, for the next six years. And he's definitely worse. He's had a negative corsi rating in every season but one. He's the perfect example of a defensive defensemen, which is a nice way of saying he plays a lot in his own end because he sucks with the puck on his stick.
pretty much all the stats indicate that the flyers, and the isles before that, were better teams when he was off the ice.
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I'm not going to say Andrew MacDonald's contract is good but its not terrible either. He starts the majority of his shifts in the defencive zone, kills penalties, blocks shots and is defensively sound. That kind of play leads itself to a poor corsi rating. NYI and Phi were also pretty bad at the dot this year so that kills your corsi too.
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Canada8157 Posts
out of 10 people, this is who i was able to get for my pool. i had 3rd overall, snake draft
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Getz
Kunitz
Marchand
Backes
St. Louis
Gionta
Williams
Keith
Bouwmeester
Hjalmarsson
Fleury
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On April 16 2014 05:34 Orcasgt24 wrote:
I'm not going to say Andrew MacDonald's contract is good but its not terrible either. He starts the majority of his shifts in the defencive zone, kills penalties, blocks shots and is defensively sound. That kind of play leads itself to a poor corsi rating. NYI and Phi were also pretty bad at the dot this year so that kills your corsi too.
48.8 OZS and Philly is sitting 16th in the league for FO with a 50% team average. Obviously his numbers could be lower depending which center is taking those draws, but 48.8 ozs is pretty middle of the road. Cobourn and Gustaffson are similar in qualcomp/ozs and they're not getting hammered as bad as he is.
NYI, I agree that the team's fo ability (26th for team average), lack of defense, and goaltending hurt his stats. But for both teams, their stats were better when he was off the ice.
I also dont have it off hand, but I am pretty sure Homer said he views MacDonald as being the successor to timmonen. Yesh.
I'll look up some more stuff later, heading out now.
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Well, as someone who has watched every game that MacD has played in, he's a curious study. He gets some points, knows how to mark his man, is fairly mobile, and has a decent first pass. That's the good.
The bad is stuff that happens very quickly. Mainly, his neutral zone play. He lets the opposing team carry in with possession way more than his teammates, and this leads to lots of scoring chances. It's something you don;t necessarily pick up on because you're watching the puck, and the chance might happen rather quickly. He's legitimately terrible in the neutral zone. His O/D St% is below 50%, so he's not being sheltered. But he's not exactly used like Couturier is, his zone starts should not make his corsi as bad as it is. Also, his Corsi Rel - relative to his teammates - is by far the worst among the dmen, and is rivaled only by Vinny for guys who get more than 5 minutes a night.
He blocks a number of shots, but that's mainly because he allows a great deal more than most, paired with playing a lot of minutes.
He is paid more than Coburn, and is one of the worst Dmen in the league. I think he has the skills to be a solid 3rd pairing guy, that is if he works on his neutral zone play. But this is an absolutely shit contract. Homer bid against himself at a time when MacD was at his "peak" value. The contract is a total joke. Gustafsson is better and cheaper. Gostisbehere will certainly be better. Hagg might be better right now. It just makes no sense. The coaching staff has to be aware of his poor neutral zone play, you don't need fancy stats to see he just lets guys fly in the zone with possession. Fucking goddamnit.
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Lottery results
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12. phoenix
11. nashville
10. ducks
9. jets
8. TML
7. carolina
6. van city
5. islanders
4. calgary
3. oilers
2. buffalo (odds at #1)
1. florida (odds at #2)
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Panthers pick first overall, moving up from the number 2 slot.
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should have asked for a 1st round pick for luu xD (not like the canucks would get it, but one can dream.
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On April 16 2014 05:49 sharkeyanti wrote:
Well, as someone who has watched every game that MacD has played in, he's a curious study. He gets some points, knows how to mark his man, is fairly mobile, and has a decent first pass. That's the good.
The bad is stuff that happens very quickly. Mainly, his neutral zone play. He lets the opposing team carry in with possession way more than his teammates, and this leads to lots of scoring chances. It's something you don;t necessarily pick up on because you're watching the puck, and the chance might happen rather quickly. He's legitimately terrible in the neutral zone. His O/D St% is below 50%, so he's not being sheltered. But he's not exactly used like Couturier is, his zone starts should not make his corsi as bad as it is. Also, his Corsi Rel - relative to his teammates - is by far the worst among the dmen, and is rivaled only by Vinny for guys who get more than 5 minutes a night.
He blocks a number of shots, but that's mainly because he allows a great deal more than most, paired with playing a lot of minutes.
He is paid more than Coburn, and is one of the worst Dmen in the league. I think he has the skills to be a solid 3rd pairing guy, that is if he works on his neutral zone play. But this is an absolutely shit contract. Homer bid against himself at a time when MacD was at his "peak" value. The contract is a total joke. Gustafsson is better and cheaper. Gostisbehere will certainly be better. Hagg might be better right now. It just makes no sense. The coaching staff has to be aware of his poor neutral zone play, you don't need fancy stats to see he just lets guys fly in the zone with possession. Fucking goddamnit.
i think one of the philly blogs had a story today about just that, his suckiness in the neutral zone in particular
I dont know about worst dman in the league. He's probably an ok 3rd dman if they pair him up with someone competent and he works on his nz play. but yeah, that contract is shit. that's something you give to a very good player.
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Vancouver drafts pretty high, maybe their rebuild is going to be quicker than the abortion of a season indicated.
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On April 16 2014 13:55 Sub40APM wrote:
Vancouver drafts pretty high, maybe their rebuild is going to be quicker than the abortion of a season indicated.
Vancouver is close to Edmonton. Look what high draft picks have done for them. There's more to winning than just picking the best players. Edmonton has picked the best player in every draft 5 years in a row. Still last or close to it
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team zone starts.
http://blog.extraskater.com/2014/04/team-zone-starts/
The leafs had 250 more defensive zone starts than any other team. they started in the defensive zone over 100 times more than any team started in any zone. their O/DZS%, [OZ starts / (OZ + DZ starts)] is way worse than anyone else, and puts them among the bottom feeders of the league. average is about 40-50%. Leafs sitting pretty at 40.5%.
also near the bottom is montreal, who has a much better team overall, but has another dogshit coach in therrien, who loves to employ a dump and chase system that completely stifles any of the talent the team has.
Obviously these possession and zone start stats dont tell the entire story, but when your defense sucks and you're a one line team, getting hemmed in your zone all goddamn day makes the game 10x harder.
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On April 16 2014 12:50 QuanticHawk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 05:49 sharkeyanti wrote:
Well, as someone who has watched every game that MacD has played in, he's a curious study. He gets some points, knows how to mark his man, is fairly mobile, and has a decent first pass. That's the good.
The bad is stuff that happens very quickly. Mainly, his neutral zone play. He lets the opposing team carry in with possession way more than his teammates, and this leads to lots of scoring chances. It's something you don;t necessarily pick up on because you're watching the puck, and the chance might happen rather quickly. He's legitimately terrible in the neutral zone. His O/D St% is below 50%, so he's not being sheltered. But he's not exactly used like Couturier is, his zone starts should not make his corsi as bad as it is. Also, his Corsi Rel - relative to his teammates - is by far the worst among the dmen, and is rivaled only by Vinny for guys who get more than 5 minutes a night.
He blocks a number of shots, but that's mainly because he allows a great deal more than most, paired with playing a lot of minutes.
He is paid more than Coburn, and is one of the worst Dmen in the league. I think he has the skills to be a solid 3rd pairing guy, that is if he works on his neutral zone play. But this is an absolutely shit contract. Homer bid against himself at a time when MacD was at his "peak" value. The contract is a total joke. Gustafsson is better and cheaper. Gostisbehere will certainly be better. Hagg might be better right now. It just makes no sense. The coaching staff has to be aware of his poor neutral zone play, you don't need fancy stats to see he just lets guys fly in the zone with possession. Fucking goddamnit. i think one of the philly blogs had a story today about just that, his suckiness in the neutral zone in particular I dont know about worst dman in the league. He's probably an ok 3rd dman if they pair him up with someone competent and he works on his nz play. but yeah, that contract is shit. that's something you give to a very good player.
6 millions a year isnt so bad for your #3 dman, considering the cap is always going up.
Next year it is expected to be at 71 millions.
So he is eating roughly 8% of the cap, which seems okay to me for a player that will spend 20+ minutes on the ice night in night out.
Over the next few years, contract numbers will soar and guys who are worth 4.5 will be worth 6 and guys who are worth 6 will be worth 8 and so on...
I read somewhere that Pacioretty fired his agent after re-signing with MTL because the dude did not recognize that trend.
It could be worse too. Look at Toronto's captain.
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