EPTWTF are people hating on? - Page 4
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
Not because of anything I do, but because Reddit. will. find. a. way. to. ruin. you. | ||
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Fyrewolf
United States1533 Posts
On May 24 2012 15:33 LMG wrote: James "2GD" Harding is a caster for quake, he used to be a professional player himself. James always speaks his mind and I bet he has his reasons for saying such things. Not listening to his opinion on anything? He's probably one of the smartest guys around in the world of e-sports, the guy has send players to tournaments with his own money without ever asking anything back, he started a project some time ago called "The Arena" for quake live and so far it's been a succes. He's also been a caster for ESL, casting cs 1.6 and such.. You've never heard of him, even though he's had inControL, apollo etc... on his show(s) before, so I'm wondering if you ever watch anything else, read anything else but stuff you get to watch/read on TL. Sure, James can be a bit too harsh at times, but I'd rather have him sitting next to me than someone who acts all friendly when the camera's aimed on him and once the camera moves away acts like an utter ****. Not saying day9's like that, but I know for a fact James isn't the kind of person to say something like that without a good reason. Though I do believe this thread is blowing things out of proportion really, I didn't see any thread about james saying "incontrol, you were out of control with your weight" on his show, but when it's about day9 holy crap stop the presses, anarchy all the way and let's start hating on one of the coolest guys in history of e-sports. Oh, & if you don't know what I'm referring to: James can go a bit too far sometimes, I've noticed this for a very long time, but he usually does apologize when he knows he went too far, it's in the heat of the moment when all the guys were joking & suddenly a very harsh joke comes out of his mouth.. Shit happens and I know he usually does apologize when he realises he went too far or said something incredibly harsh. But yeah, this whole thing is getting blown out of proportion. I was going off of the false info that it was 2gd and it's since been corrected that it's Richard Lewis, he's probably a cool guy as you say. The point I was making is that some who is so shallow in their opinion forming as to base it off of hearsay and a single meeting is not the kind of opinion that is worth listening too, as there is no substantial thought or intelligence that was actually put into it before it was formed. | ||
NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
nevermind. | ||
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coolcor
520 Posts
On May 24 2012 15:33 Dbla08 wrote: so, sounds like people are mad that Day9 has a donation link...and from at least one person it sounds like they'd be equally mad that CapitalOne or Visa or Mastercard had a donation link..if you don't want to donate...don't? if you think he has enough money to support himself now and that the donation link is outdated and unneccsary...don't donate? or if you think he's deserving of your donations, go for it. there's alot of foundations etc that take 80%+ of donations for themselves and the rest for whatever cause they claim to be founded to help, perhaps his discription of what the donations are for are vague, but at least he isn't using size 0.2 font to say "we take most of you're money and only put enough forth to help 1/10th the people we really should." I'm finding the things that many people in the sc2 community (and in this case mostly the reddit community which is dubious enough on its own) get angry about are so very pointless and tiny compared to the many great things so many intelligent people could put their minds and effort towards helping, to be very dissapointing, but perhaps I just have too high of expectations of strangers. ??? Are you saying what day9 is doing is ok because there exist charities that take most of the donations to help the poor for their own personal benifit to make themselves rich??? The people are doing that are really bad I wouldn't compare day9 to them. | ||
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Silvertine
United States509 Posts
On May 24 2012 15:41 Torte de Lini wrote: Yeah, and? How does that dictate whether I want to give to something or someone I like? The connection still isn't made. Whether he uses the money or not doesn't really change my decision if I am basing my money on things I value. I feel his stuff has value, thus I will give it what I feel it is owed. I'm not saying I do this or not, but there is no logical point between what I'm saying and you're trying to imply. Wow, this is very simple: When you ask for donations there is an expectation that you don't have a ton of money. If you can't wrap your head around that concept then I don't know what to do for you. | ||
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GhostLink
United States450 Posts
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slicknav
1409 Posts
On May 24 2012 15:42 Primadog wrote: Wow, first r/destiny, now even r/day9 isn't invulnerable to Reddit's wrath. If I am a face of the industry, I should be very scared now. Not because of anything I do, but because Reddit. will. find. a. way. to. ruin. you. this isn't even a thing on reddit. Its just a few guys who made comments. This shit just got blown way the fuck up. | ||
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LMG
9 Posts
so that basicly.. means this thread holds no purpose anymore? Unless there are/were other things the OP was referring to. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On May 24 2012 15:44 Silvertine wrote: Wow, this is very simple: When you ask for donations there is an expectation that you don't have a ton of money. If you can't wrap your head around that concept then I don't know what to do for you. But that isn't the actual question at all: "So you would be fine if all millionaires started asking for personal donations to their for profit buisnesses to achieve a vague goal because the costs are to high no matter how profitable that business actually is? Or is it just day9 who can do that because he is funny." It's not about whether he's asking for money or not, it's whether I would give to a millionaire and I answered it completely. You're changing the perspective of the question. The hypothetical situation he was putting out is very simple. | ||
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On May 24 2012 15:44 Silvertine wrote: Wow, this is very simple: When you ask for donations there is an expectation that you don't have a ton of money. If you can't wrap your head around that concept then I don't know what to do for you. People can ask for donation regardless of their financial status. If people feel that the person asking for donation already have enough money, or he does not produce content that they want to pay, then don't donate. It's that simple. If I enjoy his daily and think that it's deserve to be donated for, then there's no problem in doing it. | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On May 24 2012 15:44 Silvertine wrote: Wow, this is very simple: When you ask for donations there is an expectation that you don't have a ton of money. If you can't wrap your head around that concept then I don't know what to do for you. I want to add a lil bit to this. There's a difference in being so awesome that people give you stuff (most established people would send it back but w/e that's beside the point), and actually having a link to facilitate that. | ||
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actionbastrd
Congo598 Posts
On May 24 2012 15:30 TheWorldToCome wrote: For me I have always had a real big issue with the fact that he claims to be some SC2 guru with his day9 dalies, yet has never provided evidence on how good he is at SC2. He claims he is GM in all 3 races yet has never provided proof of this. And the only games he ever streams of himself are like Amnesia and Diablo 3. Also when he is on SOTG he comes across as very phony IMO. If a discussion ever goes towards anything remotely controversial (like balance) he just seems to give a PR type response which is frustrating. It would be great to hear his thoughts on these types of things once in a while. There is actually a SOTG where he comments on the GM in all 3 races thing. He actually said it while playing amnesia, not as a public statment. And he clarified that he has been GM with all 3 races, but does not consider himself a GM player because when he had acomplished this, it didnt last forever, or long. (and he is currently not). I dont remember what sotg it was, it was a long time ago now after his streaming of amnesia. He basically said, i have done it, i am not that now, i do not consider myself a GM player, like if you win a few tourney's a year ago, it doesnt mean you are a championship finals level right now by any means. You make it sound like he went, hey world, im GM on all 3 races so you should watch my daily! Ive never got that impression :-/ And this community loves drama way to much. I just dont get it. Are real sports filled with this much drama for every personality in the space? (i dont really follow sports enough to know or care) | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On May 24 2012 15:42 Primadog wrote: Wow, first r/destiny, now even r/day9 isn't invulnerable to Reddit's wrath. If I am a face of the industry, I should be very scared now. Not because of anything I do, but because Reddit. will. find. a. way. to. ruin. you. Reddit is essentially a neutered 4chan for a younger generation, at least that's the impression I've gotten. Why anyone take's anything produced in Reddit seriously is beyond me. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On May 24 2012 15:47 Veldril wrote: People can ask for donation regardless of their financial status. If people feel that the person asking for donation already have enough money, or he does not produce content that they want to pay, then don't donate. It's that simple. If I enjoy his daily and think that it's deserve to be donated for, then there's no problem in doing it. Someone gets it, yes thank you! | ||
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coolcor
520 Posts
On May 24 2012 15:41 Jockmcplop wrote: I'm pretty sure that you can subscribe to any stream. That means that any pro gamer asking for handouts deserves your rage too, no? only if the progamer implied he was losing money and needed donations to continue to be a progamer and then later we found out he is one of the highest paid progamers in the industry all along and he conveniently left that part out. It is being misleading that is the problem not just a donation link. The subscription revenue, while helpful, only partially defrays the cost of operating Day[9]TV. If you have the means to offer additional support so that Day[9] can continue his efforts to grow eSports, we invite you to make a one time personal donation to his tip jar (or, better still, a recurring donation!!) below: | ||
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PiGStarcraft
Australia987 Posts
On May 24 2012 15:30 ReachTheSky wrote: Day9 asking for handouts is pathetic. The guy graduated college right? He owns his own business. And he is asking for handouts? In what world is this acceptable? He is a working man, asking for handouts. Homeless people ask for handouts. Day9 is abusing the community to make an extra buck. Handouts, cmon people. do you really think this is ok? Dem esports dollars. He so rich omg how come he have a donation link like hundreds of players? I pay a whole cent in advertising revenue each time i watch his stream and now he ASKS ME FOR MONEY? This little donation box is easily comparable to begging someone on the street for a donation. It's the exact same thing right? Your attitude disgusts me. | ||
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Duka08
3391 Posts
On May 24 2012 15:24 RogerChillingworth wrote: Because he has tons of money and doesn't need yours? Should probably focus more on your own success, reaching your own goals, instead of giving what little you have to someone who's already extremely successful. Giving him money is making a point, sure, but so is watching his stream or saying nice things about him; money is a greasy way to give a shit, and totally unnecessary in the case of day9. This is the weirdest thing I've read in a while. You're probably right, that $5 those folks ponied up is really going to keep them and their kids out of college. There are various reasons someone would wish to donate to something, regardless of the financial circumstances of either party. Edit: On May 24 2012 15:44 Silvertine wrote: Wow, this is very simple: When you ask for donations there is an expectation that you don't have a ton of money. If you can't wrap your head around that concept then I don't know what to do for you. Whaaaaat.... | ||
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xwoGworwaTsx
United States984 Posts
I'm extremely curious how this will turn out. Bookmarked. | ||
itsjustatank
Hong Kong9158 Posts
On May 24 2012 15:44 Silvertine wrote: Wow, this is very simple: When you ask for donations there is an expectation that you don't have a ton of money. If you can't wrap your head around that concept then I don't know what to do for you. You make too many assumptions and linked demands about people who ask for money on the internet. | ||
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