I used to think that, but these remasters prove I love the old colors. The new game looks oversaturated lcd and the old looks like greyed out crt, perfect greyscale, you know what I mean? I'll drop starcraft remastered in a heartbeat just to watch these anew.

Mutaller

United States1051 Posts

February 24 2025 23:02 GMT

#57

On February 25 2025 06:47 jinjin5000 wrote:
Guys the 1999 looks unwatchable, idk what you guys are saying with it having souls and all.
Sure the remastered 1999 doesn't look great, but its leagues ahead compared to 1999 one. At least you can make out faces. But I think that's because originals are in such low quality in first place, altho I swear when I watched some of these proleagues on tooniverse back in the day on TV, I swear it looked lot more watchable on TV.

Biggest obstacle for SC2 recruit like me from watching these old games are its quality and I'm glad OGN is remastering them, even if the letters look off.

I agree, and this isn't something a crt will fix. This is a camera pointed at a projection and is at most 240p. 1.16 on CRT was amazing, I agree, but if this is the best way to preserve these old games so be it, hopefully the old versions stick around without OGN going after them.

mtcn77

Turkey660 Posts

February 24 2025 23:15 GMT

#58

Honestly this could be fixed if dual stage upscaling was used. Superxbr is great at upscaling, however it isn't much good adding lost resolution - that is what neural filters do best. One is good for luma, the other for chroma, although I'm having my doubts as is. Make a custom filter for the wireframes and deinterlacing. Maybe somebody would help from the madvr & avsforums.

JMave

Singapore1806 Posts

February 25 2025 00:35 GMT

#59

Oh wow this is amazing! I have to agree that while its not perfect, its way better than what we had before. I would hope one day to rewatch the Bisu vs Savior series after upscaling.

M3t4PhYzX

Poland4237 Posts

February 25 2025 11:04 GMT

#60

yeah, I agree with this statement

RowdierBob

Australia13307 Posts

February 25 2025 12:42 GMT

#61

I thought it looked pretty good compared to the original.

npnl19

Russian Federation27 Posts

February 25 2025 17:36 GMT

#62

Those upscales are probably not from "original" source ?
If anyone remembers "emperor of the terran" (Boxer DVD) which also contains games from 2002 i think -
- that what its ("old games re-releases in 2025") probably should at least look like.

GTR

51558 Posts

February 25 2025 22:28 GMT

#63

On February 26 2025 02:36 npnl19 wrote:
Those upscales are probably not from "original" source ?
If anyone remembers "emperor of the terran" (Boxer DVD) which also contains games from 2002 i think -
- that what its ("old games re-releases in 2025") probably should at least look like.

yes these are definitely the highest quality i've ever seen from starcraft matches in the pre-sc2 era. however i don't have the iso anymore and i'm not sure if anyone has a copy of the videos i ripped.

from memory even the korean warez scene didn't even release pure ts/tp files of starcraft games; they were always compressed down with xvid back in the day (shoutouts to oskyloveo)

rotta

5601 Posts

February 26 2025 16:21 GMT

#64

I have a sealed copy of the Boxer dvd I could part with in case someone's interested.

GTR

51558 Posts

February 27 2025 11:16 GMT

#65

so the upscaling allows us to read some of the chat and its kinda funny

everlast: "so i think the makeup girl wants your phone number"
everlast: "btw winner pays for soju ^^"

Chris_Havoc

United States600 Posts

February 27 2025 13:08 GMT

#66

I would love that after all the '99 Tooniverse vods come out, that Tasteless & Artosis cast them, hopefully without having seen them previously.

As a way to show just how far the meta has morphed & evolved over the last 26 years of course.

HolySmokes

56 Posts

March 01 2025 03:46 GMT

#67

On February 27 2025 20:16 GTR wrote:

so the upscaling allows us to read some of the chat and its kinda funny

everlast: "so i think the makeup girl wants your phone number"
everlast: "btw winner pays for soju ^^"

"i like beer" haha. I love the banter but I guess this is why it was banned XD

nimdil

Poland3753 Posts

March 11 2025 07:37 GMT

#68

On February 27 2025 22:08 Chris_Havoc wrote:
I would love that after all the '99 Tooniverse vods come out, that Tasteless & Artosis cast them, hopefully without having seen them previously.

As a way to show just how far the meta has morphed & evolved over the last 26 years of course.

That would be hilarious. I kind of both want to watch it with 'forgiving' Artosis and 'this is not how you're supposed to play it' Artosis.

Simplistik

2094 Posts

May 09 2025 08:11 GMT

#69

After the comments on the first page I expected the quality to be really bad.

But, as usual, people exaggerate terribly... It's completely fine, way better than the grainy mess vods that are still available.

10/10 unreasonable complaints, definitely enjoyed that.

goody153

44238 Posts

May 09 2025 12:09 GMT

#70

Lets goooooooooo. This is great.

I used to watch grainy videoes but I could not do that anymore nowadays. This is just great !

funkyemy

Germany14 Posts

May 09 2025 15:02 GMT

#71

On May 09 2025 17:11 Simplistik wrote:
After the comments on the first page I expected the quality to be really bad.

But, as usual, people exaggerate terribly... It's completely fine, way better than the grainy mess vods that are still available.

10/10 unreasonable complaints, definitely enjoyed that.

I think it depends on how you look at it, resolution seems quite fine but the image is so unstable with all the texture fizzling that I cannot watch it for more than 2 minutes before getting sea sick.

But everything outside of the gameplay looks so sick and funny, like the extremely detailed chairs and desks that look extremely uncomfortable. Makes me nostalgic, even though I'm not much into bw and was three years old at the time of recording lol

mtcn77

Turkey660 Posts

October 21 2025 06:20 GMT

#72

Can we date the games? One feature on violetak channel is games are dated. That makes time searching easier. At least, I would like to know the date, please.

zelevin

United States314 Posts

October 24 2025 02:32 GMT

#73

On October 21 2025 15:20 mtcn77 wrote:
Can we date the games? One feature on violetak channel is games are dated. That makes time searching easier. At least, I would like to know the date, please.

very sad that they aren't putting dates or tournament names in the titles. no one here on teamliquid has any authority on this and probably no contact with those who do.