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OGN to release AI-upscaled StarLeague from Feb 24 - Page 2

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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10705 Posts
February 23 2025 16:50 GMT
#21
This is cool, it's a good sign!
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1204 Posts
February 23 2025 17:14 GMT
#22
On February 23 2025 09:47 NukeTheStars wrote:
Horrible.

I noticed them doing this months ago and was deeply disappointed by it. A.I.-upscaling, especially the way OGN has used it, makes the games look like some kind of smeary, strange Freddy Krueger nightmare. It makes me literally physically ill to look at it, and I think anybody who considers this a "remaster" needs to reevaluate their standards.

The strange thing is, I'm not even sure why they're doing this. While the quality of recordings for most old games on their YouTube channel isn't great, I know higher quality versions of the recordings must exist, right? There were streams in pretty darn good quality back in the day. I know this because, for a time, I received stream recordings from Baezzi that were very nice, and they still look nice on my channel like 15 years later.

Maybe OGN has lost their recorded archive? I don't get it.


A blast from past to throw down the real talk.
Flash should fear Sacsri
HolySmokes
Profile Joined December 2024
56 Posts
February 23 2025 18:21 GMT
#23
On February 23 2025 21:52 tankgirl wrote:
this makes me miss the 1990s

veto 9/11

veto apple iphone

veto covid

veto all the wars

veto AI

life was good


Veto social media, veto Savior, veto Starcraft 2...
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4248 Posts
February 23 2025 18:23 GMT
#24
On February 24 2025 03:21 HolySmokes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2025 21:52 tankgirl wrote:
this makes me miss the 1990s

veto 9/11

veto apple iphone

veto covid

veto all the wars

veto AI

life was good


Veto social media, veto Savior, veto Starcraft 2...

Yeah, just veto smartphones forever (internet usage only from home or library, etc) and we're good.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4248 Posts
February 23 2025 18:24 GMT
#25
As for the OGN's AI upscaling project - well.. better than nothing, I guess. The old YT VOD quality is pretty bad these days.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3691 Posts
February 23 2025 18:26 GMT
#26
So disappointed that they are jumping on the half cooked AI train. This might be a good approach, idk 5 years from now? 10 years? 20? Who knows, but as Video Upscaling is right now, it turns the ingame clips of starcraft into some smeary garbage. It works pretty good for when they show the players though.
Once again I am glad for having downloaded that giant OGN torrent all those years ago. It makes you wonder if they even bothered to compare the AI result to the original, imo the original vods still hold up just fine. Its the MBC vods that are a pixelated mess with audio straight from hell.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
February 23 2025 18:32 GMT
#27
Omg this is so nice
Skol
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17734 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-02-23 20:07:18
February 23 2025 20:05 GMT
#28
I actually don't mind it. I would rather have this than the vhs quality that GTR showed

It actually reminded me that it would be a nice pet-project to try doing the same with old bw highlight videos.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
HolySmokes
Profile Joined December 2024
56 Posts
February 23 2025 20:50 GMT
#29
Yeah, the upscaling is not ideal, but the originals are even worse.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 23 2025 21:40 GMT
#30
Yeah it's pretty cool, sure the AI upscaling looks weird, but hey, they're doing something which is nice.
Computer says mafia
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2356 Posts
February 23 2025 22:07 GMT
#31
wut happened to all replays?
ἡ τῆς Νεμέσεως τάξις
Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland597 Posts
February 23 2025 23:49 GMT
#32
I read the comments first. Went to check the VODs expecting to see something outrageously bad, but it's quite decent.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51582 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-02-24 00:03:17
February 24 2025 00:01 GMT
#33
On February 23 2025 23:56 LML wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2025 23:12 LUCKY_NOOB wrote:
On February 23 2025 22:01 LML wrote:
idk what everyone is whining about. it looks a lot better than the other videos of that time on YT.
Also releasing the replays won't help you much with watching them in SCR, as they won't work. You'd have to switch an old version of BW to the version used in the replay to watch it.


I don't know the extent to which that is actually true. Here is a working replay from 2001 when replays were introduced.

(I skipped through another longer replay and there were mine idle workers at the main nexus with minerals still unmined which is a clear sign of a broken/incompatible replay)

Maybe some1 with 1.08 or later install up to 1.16.1 can check the replay and see if it matches with the remastered.

I also guess there is a way to make a RepFix for remastered if the need arises.

https://repmastered.icza.net/?page=6&from=1969-01-23&to=2001-01-23


colour me surprised. I'd have expected it to be pretty broken or incompatible since there was a version changer program back in the day so people could watch replays from older versions without issues.


if you look at the minimap, it clearly shows that it is python, a map released in 2007. seems like for some reason whoever created the replay had their pc time set to 2001.

anyway from memory, anything that's 1.08 to 1.11 will definitely be fucked if it involves a zerg. other match-up's is a coin flip.
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6836 Posts
February 24 2025 00:16 GMT
#34
Apart from the weird accelerations that sometimes the units are making is not super bad. There are many games that aged better or worse on youtube. So there are cases that the original is still better than this AI upscale. But for example i have never seen any of the early OSLs. So could be interesting to watch some of those with a somewhat decent quality.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10035 Posts
February 24 2025 02:23 GMT
#35
it feels different than BW and a bit cartoony but better than a super pixelated vid..
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51582 Posts
February 24 2025 03:16 GMT
#36
first video is up, make your judgment



Commentator
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10035 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-02-24 04:02:58
February 24 2025 04:00 GMT
#37
why is it so bright? lol

the brightness of the other rm vids on their channel is way better, there's also this weird wiggly effect on the units/buildings that the other vids don't have
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
tankgirl
Profile Blog Joined May 2016
Canada452 Posts
February 24 2025 04:44 GMT
#38
maybe someone actually watches these now

maybe we re-discover some lost, forgotten, super-cool builds

starcraft archeology
https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/627255-progamer-settings
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Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1019 Posts
February 24 2025 04:50 GMT
#39
OK that video looks bad compared to the other uploaded one I watched. I would definitely have prefered the raw footage.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17734 Posts
February 24 2025 07:13 GMT
#40
The ones GTR just uploaded look a bit worse so it makes me think the upscaling is also dependent on the source quality of the videos.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
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