EPTOn February 23 2025 17:10 GTR wrote:
they're already on youtube, check out the amazing vhs quality recordings!
they're already on youtube, check out the amazing vhs quality recordings!
The pure levels of soul on display here is simply incredible
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RPR_Tempest
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The pure levels of soul on display here is simply incredible | ||
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SpaNiarD
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mtcn77
Turkey729 Posts
On February 23 2025 09:47 NukeTheStars wrote: Horrible. I noticed them doing this months ago and was deeply disappointed by it. A.I.-upscaling, especially the way OGN has used it, makes the games look like some kind of smeary, strange Freddy Krueger nightmare. It makes me literally physically ill to look at it, and I think anybody who considers this a "remaster" needs to reevaluate their standards. The strange thing is, I'm not even sure why they're doing this. While the quality of recordings for most old games on their YouTube channel isn't great, I know higher quality versions of the recordings must exist, right? There were streams in pretty darn good quality back in the day. I know this because, for a time, I received stream recordings from Baezzi that were very nice, and they still look nice on my channel like 15 years later. Maybe OGN has lost their recorded archive? I don't get it. Maybe there can be some sort of xBRZ filter. I have been into upscalers, that is a tier above superxbr if you have the means. Like you say, neural upscalers are lossy - they are not to be used. Super XBR 100/75 is the gold standard. PS: Man! The first game I watch, it is Leta!  | ||
GTR
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Waxangel
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Early StarCraft was sure cool  | ||
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mtcn77
Turkey729 Posts
On February 24 2025 19:47 GTR wrote: one thing i definitely agree on is that the non-game upscaling (so the player shots etc) are amazing quality, upscaled. I love the old animations. The new one resembles sc2. PS: these replays are on fire! I believe they can be improved upon if the wireframes were extrapolated from a noninterlaced original a.k.a. from source material. | ||
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Chris_Havoc
United States600 Posts
On February 24 2025 20:10 Waxangel wrote: A ladder stocked with ridiculously long ground-path maps + Blizzard taking an agonizingly long time to nerf Mutalisk rushing... Early StarCraft was sure cool Oh it gets even weirder. If my memory hasn't gone bad, Zerg Queen rushes eventually become a thing later on in the 1999 Open. The ZvZ games in particular are so different compared to the standard ZvZ meta that we know. | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium7193 Posts
On February 24 2025 21:05 Chris_Havoc wrote: Oh it gets even weirder. If my memory hasn't gone bad, Zerg Queen rushes eventually become a thing later on in the 1999 Open. The ZvZ games in particular are so different compared to the standard ZvZ meta that we know. What do you mean queen rushes ? for what purpose LMAO. I will love to see a game if you can link one! | ||
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mtcn77
Turkey729 Posts
On February 24 2025 23:33 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: What do you mean queen rushes ? for what purpose LMAO. I will love to see a game if you can link one! Do you recall there being battlereports on battle.net, images of queens ensnaring marines? Is it again one of my memory manifestations? | ||
FlaShFTW
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium7193 Posts
On February 25 2025 02:53 mtcn77 wrote: Do you recall there being battlereports on battle.net, images of queens ensnaring marines? Is it again one of my memory manifestations? What do you mean by battlereports on battle net ? | ||
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mtcn77
Turkey729 Posts
On February 25 2025 04:02 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: There used to be battle reports there since replays weren't yet invented. Maybe they were, otherwise how would they capture screenshots?What do you mean by battlereports on battle net ? | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium7193 Posts
On February 25 2025 04:39 mtcn77 wrote: There used to be battle reports there since replays weren't yet invented. Maybe they were, otherwise how would they capture screenshots? Was this an official thing or just random players reporting their games and uploading this pictures ? | ||
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jinjin5000
United States1560 Posts
Sure the remastered 1999 doesn't look great, but its leagues ahead compared to 1999 one. At least you can make out faces. But I think that's because originals are in such low quality in first place, altho I swear when I watched some of these proleagues on tooniverse back in the day on TV, I swear it looked lot more watchable on TV. Biggest obstacle for SC2 recruit like me from watching these old games are its quality and I'm glad OGN is remastering them, even if the letters look off. ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/TQArv4t.png) | ||
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TT1
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mtcn77
Turkey729 Posts
On February 25 2025 06:51 TT1 wrote: just watch the original games on CRT monitor, problem solved I used to think that, but these remasters prove I love the old colors. The new game looks oversaturated lcd and the old looks like greyed out crt, perfect greyscale, you know what I mean? I'll drop starcraft remastered in a heartbeat just to watch these anew. | ||
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Mutaller
United States1051 Posts
On February 25 2025 06:47 jinjin5000 wrote: Guys the 1999 looks unwatchable, idk what you guys are saying with it having souls and all. Sure the remastered 1999 doesn't look great, but its leagues ahead compared to 1999 one. At least you can make out faces. But I think that's because originals are in such low quality in first place, altho I swear when I watched some of these proleagues on tooniverse back in the day on TV, I swear it looked lot more watchable on TV. Biggest obstacle for SC2 recruit like me from watching these old games are its quality and I'm glad OGN is remastering them, even if the letters look off. I agree, and this isn't something a crt will fix. This is a camera pointed at a projection and is at most 240p. 1.16 on CRT was amazing, I agree, but if this is the best way to preserve these old games so be it, hopefully the old versions stick around without OGN going after them. | ||
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mtcn77
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JMave
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4298 Posts
On February 25 2025 06:47 jinjin5000 wrote: Guys the 1999 looks unwatchable, idk what you guys are saying with it having souls and all. Sure the remastered 1999 doesn't look great, but its leagues ahead compared to 1999 one. At least you can make out faces. But I think that's because originals are in such low quality in first place, altho I swear when I watched some of these proleagues on tooniverse back in the day on TV, I swear it looked lot more watchable on TV. Biggest obstacle for SC2 recruit like me from watching these old games are its quality and I'm glad OGN is remastering them, even if the letters look off. yeah, I agree with this statement | ||
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