EPTI think a lot of us have noticed a change in his demeanour/personality.
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Arghmyliver
United States1081 Posts
I think a lot of us have noticed a change in his demeanour/personality. | ||
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superarmy
New Zealand422 Posts
I guess there's a few things that more bug me about it, rather than hate him and I think just hating him is a little presumptive. I do however dislike the idea that someone in the community is untouchable, everyone should be open to criticism, but I do think a lot of the hate is undeserved. | ||
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smallerk
897 Posts
On May 24 2012 20:36 Desert Fox wrote: Idra stated Sean was a nice guy and played Devil's Advocate concerning his financial gains. Not including him, if I had only two people in my life who disliked me, I'd be pretty happy. Unfortunately, no one is liked by everyone. You don't have to hate him though. That is not the case here, eventually more people will man up like 2GD and tell people how he behaves like a diva at live events, if not now then maybe in a month or in 6. | ||
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nanospartan
649 Posts
On May 24 2012 20:36 smallerk wrote: You are speaking on this without even knowing what people have said about him, you are trying to have a discussion without having all the facts, this doesn't make sense to me. Aren't you also having a "discussion" "without having all the facts"? I don't understand why so many of you will go out of your way to try to hurt someone who has given so much to eSports, like him or not. | ||
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Desert Fox
United States352 Posts
You are speaking on this without even knowing what people have said about him, you are trying to have a discussion without having all the facts, this doesn't make sense to me. Smallerk: I am saying that everything shared against him by all the people you've listed is true. He was rude to those people in the harshest possible scenario envisioned. Again, why does it matter? Is he an automaton incapable of making mistakes? Has he claimed to be one? Do you want him to be one? Will you be satisfied if he disappears tomorrow? | ||
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Khainer
Netherlands54 Posts
On May 24 2012 14:55 vulhulla wrote: At the end of the day, every one of us is left with a choice when it comes to our time and money: watch and support the things you believe in. Posting shit on /r/starcraft and on TL probably won't change anything about you, or even the person you're trying to bitch at. In the end it just makes the rest of us look bad, and I am getting sick of being associated with all the jackasses and hate-mongers out there that feel the need to shit on people in the community. So basically you're telling all of us to stop complaining about things we dislike because it won't matter? ... makes me wonder why you posted this. I think you're pretty arrogant to think that people criticizing e-sports should be stopped because it associates you with them. How often does someone come up to you and say "Oooh you like e-sports... I heard about that community, they're all jackasses, ergo you are one". People criticize things they are passionate about, it happens, not only in e-sports and it's fine. | ||
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Pwnographics
New Zealand1097 Posts
On May 24 2012 20:39 smallerk wrote: That is not the case here, eventually more people will man up like 2GD and tell people how he behaves like a diva at live events, if not now then maybe in a month or in 6. You're hoping for the worst for Day[9]... | ||
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Desert Fox
United States352 Posts
That is not the case here, eventually more people will man up like 2GD and tell people how he behaves like a diva at live events, if not now then maybe in a month or in 6. We live in the present and must discuss the present. If and when we cross that bridge, we shall discuss it. To hold a man guilty of something that hasn't been said of him yet is irresponsible. We can't have that now, can we? | ||
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smallerk
897 Posts
On May 24 2012 20:39 Desert Fox wrote: Smallerk: I am saying that everything shared against him by all the people you've listed is true. He was rude to those people in the harshest possible scenario envisioned. Again, why does it matter? Is he an automaton incapable of making mistakes? Has he claimed to be one? Do you want him to be one? Will you be satisfied if he disappears tomorrow? Why are you making it about me? Are you this fucking blind to think there is no truth about all of these things? The way he behaves on his camera doesn't match the guy shoving hands in people's faces or behaving like a diva at events, that's all.If you want to keep being ignorant then so be it, i don't really care either way. | ||
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Zoesan
Switzerland141 Posts
On May 24 2012 20:39 smallerk wrote: That is not the case here, eventually more people will man up like 2GD and tell people how he behaves like a diva at live events, if not now then maybe in a month or in 6. If that's even the case. Plenty of people have said that they like him as a person. The whole: "e-sport suicide" could just be said to strengthen his own opinion, should no one else agree with him. He can then always play it off as "being afraid". Not saying it's true, just some food for thought. | ||
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On May 24 2012 20:39 smallerk wrote: That is not the case here, eventually more people will man up like 2GD and tell people how he behaves like a diva at live events, if not now then maybe in a month or in 6. You've heard conflicting reports about his attitude at live events, why do you trust 2GD over the many other people that have worked with him and spoken well of him in this thread? Are you a huge 2GD fan or something? You don't even have all the info, all you are going off of is what you heard from 2 people (Idra said hes a great person etc, not sure if you even watched his interview). In fact, 2GD didn't even say anything bad about Day9's personality, just that hes well off (in a passive-aggressive, childish way, but SirScoots tore his ass apart for that so I won't get into it). I'm really curious what your motivation is. | ||
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Dali.
New Zealand689 Posts
On May 24 2012 20:43 smallerk wrote: Why are you making it about me? Are you this fucking blind to think there is no truth about all of these things? The way he behaves on his camera doesn't match the guy shoving hands i people's faces or behaving like a diva at events, that's all.If you want to keep being ignorant then so be it, i don't really care either way. Unless you provide an adequate reason as to why it matters that people behave differently off camera then you need to go away. | ||
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CaptainCharisma
New Zealand808 Posts
On May 24 2012 20:45 zefreak wrote: In fact, 2GD didn't even say anything bad about Day9's personality, just that hes well off (in a passive-aggressive, childish way, but SirScoots tore his ass apart for that so I won't get into it). I'm really curious what your motivation is. Awesome! Can you link me to the VOD or something? | ||
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Desert Fox
United States352 Posts
Why are you making it about me? Are you this fucking blind to think there is no truth about all of these things? The way he behaves on his camera doesn't match the guy shoving hands i people's faces or behaving like a diva at events, that's all.If you want to keep being ignorant then so be it, i don't really care either way. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt and agreeing that all the evidence presented against Sean Plott is true. Why does it matter? You seek to spread the truth about him. I have accepted it. Now, why should I hold it against him? I ask you, do you expect him to be perfect? Has he stated he is perfect? Has he said he is incapable of anger? I suppose my point is: why do you honestly care if he has a few moments of rudeness? No one can be professional one hundred percent of the time. | ||
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smallerk
897 Posts
On May 24 2012 20:45 zefreak wrote: You've heard conflicting reports about his attitude at live events, why do you trust 2GD over the many other people that have worked with him and spoken well of him in this thread? Are you a huge 2GD fan or something? You don't even have all the info, all you are going off of is what you heard from 2 people (Idra said hes a great person etc, not sure if you even watched his interview). In fact, 2GD didn't even say anything bad about Day9's personality, just that hes well off (in a passive-aggressive, childish way, but SirScoots tore his ass apart for that so I won't get into it). I'm really curious what your motivation is. I am going of what i've been hearing for a long time, i don't have the patience to go get every twitch vod link, because it won't be needed. Eventually the shitfest will surface on it's own. | ||
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Sergio1992
Italy522 Posts
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Desert Fox
United States352 Posts
I am going of what i've been hearing for a long time, i don't have the patience to go get every twitch vod link, because it won't be needed. Eventually the shitfest will surface on it's own. Do you want to execute him now, or shall we wait for the rest of the evidence to surface? | ||
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smallerk
897 Posts
On May 24 2012 20:47 Desert Fox wrote: I am giving you the benefit of the doubt and agreeing that all the evidence presented against Sean Plott is true. Why does it matter? You seek to spread the truth about him. I have accepted it. Now, why should I hold it against him? I ask you, do you expect him to be perfect? Has he stated he is perfect? Has he said he is incapable of anger? I suppose my point is: why do you honestly care if he has a few moments of rudeness? No one can be professional one hundred percent of the time. By the way he generally portrays himself on his daily, yes, i expect him to be a perfect human being, the nicest human being in the world. | ||
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nanospartan
649 Posts
On May 24 2012 20:49 Desert Fox wrote: Do you want to execute him now, or shall we wait for the rest of the evidence to surface? Now, please | ||
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MavivaM
1535 Posts
Personally he seems very self-centered and so on, but no one is free from flaws. Also his "GM in every race and being able to compete with progamers" is bullshit to me, and I wouldn't put him on the same ground of Artosis or Rotterdam for analysis. But his casting is quite good, he manages to be excited without forgetting the analytical aspect of the casting, so why not? About the money I'm someone who agrees with Cloud's opinions, but rather than disliking Day9 for getting money it's the system that should be blamed. Probably he wouldn't get the same hate if he stayed a little more humble. One hater is an exception, two are a cohincidence, three or more probably have some ground for disliking. | ||
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