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Hoejja played a very interesting game with more or less only lings, queens and defilers. I couldn't find any info on his build under the pvz section on liquipedia. So, does anyone know anything about it or is the build a "new" alternative to the 3 base spire into 5 hatch hydra? Any info/experience on the build is appreciated!

It's an advanced build for 2 reasons. The first is that it involves tricking your opponent. hoejja had no simcity and few hydralisks before hive, so if best had gone for the +1 speedlot attack like every other protoss player he would have done a lot of damage. But he was so scared of the hydra bust that he stopped scouting with his corsairs and turtled up hard. If protoss played on auto pilot and done normal stuff, it would be very hard for a progamer to react just well enough to not lose right there, and borderline impossible for anyone else.

The second reason that it is an advanced build is it is very hard to control large numbers of cracklings. along with defiler abilities. Just 1a2a3a...ing won't cut it, and your average sc player can't even do that.

Best overreacted, and had lost the game as soon as he allowed hoejja to get crack unscouted. If he didn't panic and continued to be active with his corsairs (and they were +1 sairs which made the fact he did nothing with them even worse) he could have reacted properly and done a lot of damage before the hive finished.

shoutouts to gotunk for explaining the build to me

one of the key aspect that you might have missed when seeing that build was the initial low drone count that hoejja showed to best's corsair. this was intentional. after making 8 hydras, he immediately switched back to drones and basically forced best to stop making zeals and to start getting templar tech out. from here, best cannot afford to move out because he is still unsure of what type of units hoejja is making. hoejja was a little lucky in a sense that best was not as good with scouting and could get away with such an economy.

the second most important thing is the queens nest timing. he got the nest so early such that the lings were increasingly useful with swarms and plagues particularly at the time when best moves to get a large number of dragoons. he was playing very efficiently. the moment he starved best of a third gas while he had hive, there was absolutely no way best could capitalize because hoejja had the increasingly ability to abuse the damage and mobility of lings.

if you really want to use this, you would have to watch the game many times to see the mind games and how to make your timings proper.

Has anyone won 3 proleague finals (eg as a player on the winning team) before Bisu just did it?

well there were other people on the 3 most recent skt championship teams besides bisu. Other than that SKT won 3 titles in a row 2005-2006, so all the players on those teams (midas, gorush, oov, kingdom, boxer ect).

I actually meant the whole year overall proleague titles, eg not the minor R1, R2, winners league, stx cups and stuff, IIRC the current SKT squad has only won 2, Bisu only has 3 cos he was on MBC when they won that. I'm not sure if some of the older generation SKT guys have done it though