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Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-14 16:12:24
April 14 2012 15:49 GMT
#1521
On April 14 2012 09:23 Puyi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 03:29 Bakuryu wrote:
On April 13 2012 17:02 Vuk_91 wrote:
In ZvT on Fighting Spirit (I`m a zerg),if my opponent is in cross position,which expansion should I take as a 2nd expansion? (another main,or those 3,6,9,12 o clock bases? )


u take the main which is clockwise from your base.

is there any specific reason to this? also does this apply to other match ups like pvz pvt too? and does this rule apply to other 4player maps?


reason: easier to get 5th base between your both mains when it is "connected" to your natural compared to the natural of your 4th base (the other main's natural). quite easy to "double" expand after u have your 3rd base secured and have 3 left over lurker which u can place at 5th.
ah yeah u take another main because its easy to defend the ramp with 2-3 lurker, after that its easy to move down the ramp and take the 4th

other mu: dont know

other 4p maps: dont know, every map is different. its just really easy to get 2-3 lurker at the ramp on the natural 3rd expos on fs when u have already your bridge secured.
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-14 18:45:38
April 14 2012 18:45 GMT
#1522
edit: wrong thread sry
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
TheGlassface
Profile Joined November 2010
United States612 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 22:14:52
April 16 2012 19:41 GMT
#1523
fixed edit
The mystery of life is not a problem to solve, but a reality to experience. **Hang in there STX fans!! Kal Hwaiting!**
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
April 16 2012 20:00 GMT
#1524
Is there a brood war version of "Starcraft Master" from sc2?
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
April 18 2012 01:30 GMT
#1525
When archons attack air units, do they also splash the ground?
ex: Attack an overlord hovering over zerglings: will the zerglings take dmg?
☺
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
April 18 2012 02:15 GMT
#1526
yes
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
April 18 2012 06:12 GMT
#1527
The battle cruiser's attack is divided into ata and atg. There are other units that have divided attacks (wraith, goliath, scout) but all of them have dramatically different AA and AG attacks. Does any one know why the BC attack is separated? Is there actually a difference between them? or were they different at some point in the past?
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
EngrishTeacher
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada1109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 06:17:59
April 18 2012 06:15 GMT
#1528
On April 18 2012 15:12 hacklebeast wrote:
The battle cruiser's attack is divided into ata and atg. There are other units that have divided attacks (wraith, goliath, scout) but all of them have dramatically different AA and AG attacks. Does any one know why the BC attack is separated? Is there actually a difference between them? or were they different at some point in the past?


Edit: Derp nvm.
therockmanxx
Profile Joined July 2010
Peru1174 Posts
April 18 2012 14:14 GMT
#1529
Do you guys think its a good idea to use queens parasite in D+ and C- games
I've been using them with very good results
They usually kill it or send it to one of my bases to die
Its like irradiate but its tier 2, doenst require research and queens are cheaper !!
So what do you think, also you upgrade broodling sometimes =D
Tekken ProGamer
JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1806 Posts
April 18 2012 16:03 GMT
#1530
On April 18 2012 23:14 therockmanxx wrote:
Do you guys think its a good idea to use queens parasite in D+ and C- games
I've been using them with very good results
They usually kill it or send it to one of my bases to die
Its like irradiate but its tier 2, doenst require research and queens are cheaper !!
So what do you think, also you upgrade broodling sometimes =D


i think it all really depends. probably will be good for the first timing push but probably will be better off having better defiler control rather than spreading your abilities to use the queen
火心 Jealous. I always loved that feeling when I was young. Embrace it.
Puyi
Profile Joined November 2011
United States175 Posts
April 19 2012 00:22 GMT
#1531
On April 18 2012 15:12 hacklebeast wrote:
The battle cruiser's attack is divided into ata and atg. There are other units that have divided attacks (wraith, goliath, scout) but all of them have dramatically different AA and AG attacks. Does any one know why the BC attack is separated? Is there actually a difference between them? or were they different at some point in the past?

i believe the attack speed on ata and atg are different. i think the ground attack is slightly faster. im not 100% sure but i think i read that somewhere
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 02:24:21
April 19 2012 02:22 GMT
#1532
On April 18 2012 23:14 therockmanxx wrote:
Do you guys think its a good idea to use queens parasite in D+ and C- games
I've been using them with very good results
They usually kill it or send it to one of my bases to die
Its like irradiate but its tier 2, doenst require research and queens are cheaper !!
So what do you think, also you upgrade broodling sometimes =D

Knowing that it's coming doesn't mean you can stop it. Especially against a mech build. Against an MnM build, they can suicide the unit and still come out ahead. (you have useless queen, they lost a marine)
Broodling against mech seems very good, but imho, it isn't. It's only useful when goliaths numbers are quite low.
If goliaths numbers are quite low, then mutas would absolutely rape anyways so...
I'm not a pro, never been on woonjin stars, but the majority of mech games tend to be muta rather than queens.

Does a parasited unit in a dropship still give vision?
☺
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
April 19 2012 05:54 GMT
#1533
On April 19 2012 09:22 Puyi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 15:12 hacklebeast wrote:
The battle cruiser's attack is divided into ata and atg. There are other units that have divided attacks (wraith, goliath, scout) but all of them have dramatically different AA and AG attacks. Does any one know why the BC attack is separated? Is there actually a difference between them? or were they different at some point in the past?

i believe the attack speed on ata and atg are different. i think the ground attack is slightly faster. im not 100% sure but i think i read that somewhere


good call, yea, just checked it, atg attack is slightly faster. For cannons it is reversed and AA is slightly faster.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1806 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 13:07:05
April 19 2012 13:04 GMT
#1534
On April 09 2012 08:46 PantZerSHreCH wrote:
I was watching the proleague grand finals today and,
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Hoejja played a very interesting game with more or less only lings, queens and defilers. I couldn't find any info on his build under the pvz section on liquipedia. So, does anyone know anything about it or is the build a "new" alternative to the 3 base spire into 5 hatch hydra? Any info/experience on the build is appreciated!


For anyone interested, I have studied the build and came up with the build order as closely as I could


9 Overlord
12 Hatchery
11 Pool
13 Hatchery(At third base)
12 Gas
13 1 pair of Lings
16 Lair
17 Overlord
18 Overlord
Drone to 23
23 2 pairs of lings(total 6)
100% Lair -> Spire, Overlord, Overlord Speed in this order
31 Den
30 4th hatchery
29 Overlord
35 Hatchery
34 Second Gas
100% Den -> Hydra Speed
8-10 Hydras
45 -> 6th hatch(at 4th base)
45 Evo
100% hydra speed -> lurker aspect
~50 Queens Nest

In contrast to a normal 5 hatch, you are approximately 7 drones short, which should give him the illusion that you are about to hydra bust. to fully abuse this, drone up at this point enough to keep the fourth base going. Add two more hatcheries once your 4th base is up for a grand total of 8 hatcheries.

Hive, defiler mound and adrenal glands is an absolute priority for this to work beacuse you will want a lot of harassment capability with lings to cut his army off and get off good plagues and things like that.
火心 Jealous. I always loved that feeling when I was young. Embrace it.
miscelaneous
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States67 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 03:57:12
April 21 2012 03:53 GMT
#1535
When should I normally get an Academy (I guess this may be referring mostly to Terran vs. Protoss) if it isn't specified in a build order?
...
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
April 21 2012 04:23 GMT
#1536
whenever you want
you generally need it before you leave your nat so you can take your 3rd and/or push tho
miscelaneous
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States67 Posts
April 21 2012 04:30 GMT
#1537
On April 21 2012 13:23 Dead9 wrote:
whenever you want
you generally need it before you leave your nat so you can take your 3rd and/or push tho


I see. Thank you so much!
...
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
April 21 2012 19:38 GMT
#1538
What happens when two Zerg players who both racepick TvZ play each other? It'd make most sense for them to play TvZ, but how do they decide who plays T? And won't it be slightly inequitable regardless?
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
CaffeineFree-_-
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States712 Posts
April 21 2012 21:37 GMT
#1539
They just decide either between themselves or through random selection who is Z and T
We say we love flowers, yet we pluck them. We say we love trees, yet we cut them down. And people still wonder why some are afraid when told they are loved
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
April 22 2012 07:54 GMT
#1540
Actually, if you've seen wc3, the Chinese pros don't play Hu vs Hu. Sometimes they end up playing Ne vs Ne.
So in this case, you might see a TvT.
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