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Rainalcar
Croatia439 Posts
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Jealous
10313 Posts
On March 30 2012 06:07 Rainalcar wrote: Thanks, I looked into all of them. LT drops out - no 2nd safe expo, God's Garden is similiar to Acro, Katrina is unwallable (think 2x 2Gate Zeals), and Loki is 1v1... Of all, God's is decent, but no more, not too easy to Tank harass, no safe island expos. There's got to be some map that satisfies my needs? Thank you for your efforts. Have you considered playing island maps like Plasma, or semi-island maps like 815? This might be a work-around to your issue. I do think Katrina is wallable using the neutral building there, check pro VODs to verify. Otherwise, I don't see a point to having it there, naw mean? EDIT: Also, for LT, you are neglecting the easy 3rd @ island for T. There are no minerals or neutral buildings blocking it, could be a good investment to go fac port 3cc on. EDIT 2: Even if there is no perfect wall vs. 2x 2 gate zeals on Katrina, you have to realize the wonders of good depot/bunker placement + repair. After playing many 3v3/2v2s on Blizz maps, I know for a fact that you can deny builds like this on your own with proper building placement. | ||
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Rainalcar
Croatia439 Posts
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
Then look at other flash games for the other locations | ||
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Australia1281 Posts
On March 30 2012 06:07 Rainalcar wrote: Thanks, I looked into all of them. LT drops out - no 2nd safe expo, God's Garden is similiar to Acro, Katrina is unwallable (think 2x 2Gate Zeals), and Loki is 1v1... Of all, God's is decent, but no more, not too easy to Tank harass, no safe island expos. There's got to be some map that satisfies my needs? Thank you for your efforts. You can also try Othello, it's not heavily T favoured (except in TvZ according to the stats), there is a relatively easy to secure third, if you are going for a mostly macro game, and easy to drop nats and third's. | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Australia1281 Posts
On March 30 2012 13:12 Release wrote: Do pros get observer upgrades? Sometimes. It is situational, and they don't, afaik, drill it into their builds or anything, so it's something that's not particularly structured, but because it is just a single upgrade, it is relatively cheap in the mid-game and worth it for keeping it alive vs scourge or for getting to where it is needed faster etc, so sometimes they get one if they feel it is worth it, or is convenient. I'm just guessing here, but they probably don't, like my namesake, get both upgrades. :p | ||
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xxpack09
United States2160 Posts
On March 30 2012 13:48 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote: Sometimes. It is situational, and they don't, afaik, drill it into their builds or anything, so it's something that's not particularly structured, but because it is just a single upgrade, it is relatively cheap in the mid-game and worth it for keeping it alive vs scourge or for getting to where it is needed faster etc, so sometimes they get one if they feel it is worth it, or is convenient. I'm just guessing here, but they probably don't, like my namesake, get both upgrades. :p Ob speed can be useful to rally new obs to battle when the scourge kill your old ones or in PvT to stop harassment. It's a pretty situational upgrade though, and something you should definitely skip early on.. | ||
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corose
United States31 Posts
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puppykiller
United States3137 Posts
On March 30 2012 17:45 corose wrote: Does anyone else say col.Catz or col.Cruncher as colonel catz and colonel cruncher? I know it's complexity, but that abbreviation just won't change in my mind, so anyone else think it like that? This is a BW forum. Better to ask this in it's Starcraft2 counterpart. | ||
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JMave
Singapore1806 Posts
On March 30 2012 13:48 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote: Sometimes. It is situational, and they don't, afaik, drill it into their builds or anything, so it's something that's not particularly structured, but because it is just a single upgrade, it is relatively cheap in the mid-game and worth it for keeping it alive vs scourge or for getting to where it is needed faster etc, so sometimes they get one if they feel it is worth it, or is convenient. I'm just guessing here, but they probably don't, like my namesake, get both upgrades. :p actually, most do get speed upgrades now. especially khan protosses who seem to get it very early even before the third base is up. | ||
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Toasterbaked
United States160 Posts
Is it a good idea to blind shuttles in tvp reaver drops, especially if you know your opponent has gone shuttle first? I've read up on an article discussing this (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=62741), but it was very outdated. I felt that this question was better asked again in the simple answers rather than bumping the topic. EDIT: grammer | ||
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puppykiller
United States3137 Posts
On March 30 2012 21:40 Toasterbaked wrote: Can a group of marine medics run past a ramp with two blinded lurkers, provided that there are no other units providing vision, or is more efficient to get a good spread on the bottom of the ramp and using blind to avoid the initial lurker hit? Is it a good idea to blind shuttles in tvp reaver drops, especially if you know your opponent has gone shuttle first? I've read up on an article discussing this (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=62741), but it was very outdated. I felt that this question was better asked again in the simple answers rather than bumping the topic. EDIT: grammer You cant run past lurks on a ramp with blind since they still will have a vision of 1, and will still be able to get a shot off. Spreading at the bottom is your best bet. Blind has been used before as a response to reaver drops but it is definitely not the most efficient way. Maybe if you did that old FD opening with one medic it might be useful/ | ||
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Toasterbaked
United States160 Posts
P.S. Are there any good unit tester maps available for BW? | ||
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mtwow789
67 Posts
On March 30 2012 21:02 JMave wrote: actually, most do get speed upgrades now. especially khan protosses who seem to get it very early even before the third base is up. I get obs upgrade as soon as I can. Mostly after confirming that terran had expanded to natural. This is because I want to be prepared for any vulture drop/harass shenanigans. Because if you have obs far from your base and you see 4 vult drop, it will take forever for obs to come back and can cause goons to trip mines. Also having the speed obs grouped with goon makes defusing mines much easier. However, I do delay speed upgrade when I see terran is doing two fac or some kind of all in. That's why I always check if terran have natural expansion or not. | ||
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fazek42
Hungary438 Posts
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puppykiller
United States3137 Posts
On March 31 2012 03:14 fazek42 wrote: Any players at C and above - how do you constantly produce SCV-s? What is your mechanic for this in all MU-s? Do you put both CC-s on a hotkey? Ya, 6s 7s 6s 7s 6s 7s, even during battles. There is never a second until late game that I am not making scv's. | ||
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Sirgery
Costa Rica53 Posts
On March 30 2012 06:07 Rainalcar wrote: Thanks, I looked into all of them. LT drops out - no 2nd safe expo, God's Garden is similiar to Acro, Katrina is unwallable (think 2x 2Gate Zeals), and Loki is 1v1... Of all, God's is decent, but no more, not too easy to Tank harass, no safe island expos. There's got to be some map that satisfies my needs? Thank you for your efforts. Colosseum? | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
I am not qualified to post up BOs or strats but I know many of you are. It could really use some help. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
plus the nat is super safe for stuff like siege expo cus the choke is so narrow there's very few maps that satisfy all of those requirement, but here's a couple more that are close dahlia of jungle demons forest (lol) nemesis triathalon | ||
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