EPTSaviOr's Unwelcomed Return - Page 9
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Soap
Brazil1546 Posts
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JMave
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opsayo
591 Posts
this blog probably backfired because now i want to watch him edit: i know it's on afreeca but i can't read korean edit: also apparently its on justin.tv but i can't find it there after some searching | ||
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FakePlasticLove
United States357 Posts
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soujiro_
Uruguay5195 Posts
this blog is hurting esports!! | ||
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
On June 20 2011 10:48 FakePlasticLove wrote: lol at few foreigner fans who support Savior streaming sc. How do you think actual progamers feel? Did you guys all miss KT Rolster's coach rage so hard about this topic? Did you miss the part after that where he apologized for overreacting and acting without thinking? | ||
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hazelynut
United States2195 Posts
On the other hand, people make mistakes. No one knows what's going on in his head, whether he regrets his actions, whether he wants to make amends. We always forgive people for their mistakes at some point (barring murder and child abuse, maybe), but when do we forgive this mistake? | ||
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FakePlasticLove
United States357 Posts
On June 20 2011 16:34 Xenocide_Knight wrote: Did you miss the part after that where he apologized for overreacting and acting without thinking? Yes but that rage wasn't out of nothing. I'm sure tons of other progamers/coaches/members of the e-sports (not some TLer behind a monitor) feel the same way, but do not display their anger for the reasons KT Rolster's coach was criticized . | ||
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Roflhaxx
Korea (South)1244 Posts
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hazelynut
United States2195 Posts
On June 21 2011 21:42 Roflhaxx wrote: I just think that people are overreacting a little, I mean like if someone gets caught doing drugs [Like speed, steroides whatever) It's not like people start saying that they should go kill themselves, This is actually a lot less worse imo because if you do speed and win, you actually 'steal' a victory from someone, match fixing just makes you give away a win. He let down his fans and the only thing he destroyed in 2011 was the integrity of the competitive bw scene. It's not about its immediate effect (giving away a win) but what giving a win away means in the larger picture. People trusted Savior. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
to have threatened and nearly toppled the entire e-spots scene Ehhh... I dunno. I don't think the esports scene was ever threatened. What Savior did was shitty, but all sports go through this, especially when they get bigger. At the time Savior was caught, he was a really small part of the eSports scene, playing maybe a game a month on TV. As for other players who may have been doing well at the time that were caught, that responsibility is their own and you can't blame Savior for what they did, just like you're unwilling to blame the shady people Savior got involved with for what he did. Putting the blame entirely on Savior is really unfair, and suggesting that the scene almost died because of him is a difficult claim to prove, especially since it survived and the OSL between Flash and Effort had a really big turn out. I really think if it wasn't Savior, it would have been someone else. It was inevitable that this kind of thing would happened, and had probably happened before. It's just that BW got to the level that it needed to be taken really seriously, and Savior ended up being the scapegoat for everyone's hate (at least in the foreign community). Whoever talks about Yarnc and the others who were involved? They are the ones directly responsible for the thrown games. Savior didn't lose those games for them. Yet no one is mad at them... I can't even name all of them right now. Upmagic... who else? Who even cares? It's kind of weird that the middle man gets so much focus even though his role was relatively small and interchangeable. He should have refused, but I certainly think it would have happened anyway with or without Savior. | ||
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