Sometimes there are blogs that are really little masterpieces, but when I think of the word "blog" in this context, it strikes me as being akin to the sound I make after I've had too many beers.

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Edit: Oh yeah. 1/5.

billy5000

United States865 Posts

June 16 2011 05:16 GMT

#122

Although I don't agree with what he did, I tell myself, "Mind my own business."

Corrosive

Canada3741 Posts

June 16 2011 05:38 GMT

#123

He can stream if he wants.

Also donations = not mandatory. if a fan likes him enough to give him a donation, there is nothing wrong with that.

TOloseGT

United States1145 Posts

June 16 2011 05:53 GMT

#124

I don't see what the big deal is. Is the donation option on by default or not? If it's by default, I don't see why he would go through the trouble to turn it off. He knows he still has fans out there, and he wants to put on a show. That's a win for everyone.

Don't like it, don't watch it, but if you must cause a scene, I won't begrudge you for it. I guess that's your way of blowing off steam.

supernovamaniac

United States3047 Posts

June 16 2011 06:05 GMT

#125

If you like MJY or not, Themarine has made a good point:

Savior's appearance has gathered more attention than last night's proleague.

Damn.

]343[

United States10328 Posts

June 16 2011 06:13 GMT

#126

Interestingly, the koreans seem to be the ones less inclined to forgive savior. I think many of them were more emotionally invested in savior and the scene in general than we foreigners are (despite what we may think). Match-fixing definitely did and still does have the potential to cripple the ESPORTS industry; sponsors, fans, and even other players don't want to sopupport a scene that has the potential for such forged results. Does anyone still remember what the OGN commentators thought about savior and the match fixers? And even worse, he got younger players to do it too (also Justin.........), taking their careers down with him.

You can't "just drop it." Savior cannot be completely forgiven for what he did. he should not be trying to make money with that which he corrupted (and to those who said there are other ways to make money, what can savior do well except play starcraft?)

His right to stream, however, shouldn't necessarily be revoked, since he is among the greatest players ever. but it seems kind of low to allow donations, even if they're voluntary... though I doubt he has much to live on anymore...

I know the memories of the scandal have dimmed in everyone's memory, but there are people for which it has not. Fans of the match fixers, fans of SPARKYZ, and those who helped build ESPORTS up with their own hands. respect them too...

(I don't personally oppose savior streaming, even for donations, thaaaaat much--I think he should feel guilty, but if he really needs to get donations, so be it-- but the people bashing the op were really getting to me -_-; )

J1.au

Australia3596 Posts

June 16 2011 06:41 GMT

#127

Funny how sAviOr fanboys have really made a resurgence since that article by Ver.

Djagulingu

Germany3605 Posts

June 16 2011 06:51 GMT

#128

About sAviOr's stream: If sAviOr actually streams on the proleague schedule, people still have the choice to watch either him or the proleague match and imo MBC vs STX was so horrid that I looked for any other BW streamer to watch. If I had access to his broadcast, I'd instantly tune into him. And guess what? Other people have this choice too!

About the star balloon thing: He doesn't need to disable the star balloons. If you don't want to donate him any money, don't. If you don't want him to earn a single penny off BW, that's not something that you can mess up with. He didn't fix afreeca games as well, did he?

So, if you don't want to watch his stream, don't watch. If you have a problem with his broadcasts, either talk to afreeca and try expressing yourself, you can't decide what people want to watch.

On June 16 2011 15:05 supernovamaniac wrote:
Savior's appearance has gathered more attention than last night's proleague.

It's nothing special. Would you watch a HyuN ZvP? Or sAviOr ZvP? Last night's proleague (except JvF of course) sucked balls. I'd just watch sAviOr.

TORTOISE

United States515 Posts

June 16 2011 07:17 GMT

#129

<3 Savior and hope he can enjoy his life and play BW without being hassled by assholes.

Linkirvana

Netherlands365 Posts

June 16 2011 08:18 GMT

#130

Funny, was listening to the song Pisschrist by Fear Factory while coming across this blog. "Where is your savior now?" XD

snowbird

Germany2044 Posts

June 16 2011 08:30 GMT

#131

I personally don't care if he streams or not and people donate or not but I will certainly not forgive him.

FourFace

701 Posts

June 16 2011 09:15 GMT

#132

gm shield fou and the likes are filesystems on the hard drive of the Artificial Intelligence created by Blizzard, the UN and the Prog(r)am(m)ers. Similar to the artistic interpretations in Animatrix, Mankind has found a way to create a self-conscious, virtually emulated mind and they have been feeding it information ever since through the language of starcraft. Concepts like greed (taking unnecessary expansions too quickly) or Bravery (Brave winning against samsung khan protoss without having an economic or army advantage just by engaging recklessly and his opponent getting caught with a scattered army) have been translated into this language for the AI to have concrete data, like the keyboard and mouse input of the progamers during the match, to fathom human behavior with. sAviOr was the leading ambassador for Zerg (pure essence), the codename for tier 1 thought emulation, he could teach the Ai to optimize it's own interplay of mutation, variation, selection which lead to the efficient interaction with Protoss (pure form), the codename for the neuro cybernetic hardware. Thus the artificial intelligence was able to successfully develop compatibility with the human brain -> a hybrid operating system came into being -> proxy implantation of the Ai brain was possible and Flash became the first cyborg. For security reasons he has a self-termination device implanted in his wrists, that can be triggered in a fraction of a picosecond by the High Security Council Commodore Kim Taek-Yong and his second in command captain Best.
Yes I'm in crazy mode, thank you very much.

-orb-

United States5770 Posts

June 16 2011 10:55 GMT

#133

Savior streams? Awesome! Where do I find such a thing?

RogerX

New Zealand3180 Posts

June 16 2011 11:04 GMT

#134

Sigh... this brings in old memories..

I just hope Saviors learnt his lesson thats all

Kiante

Australia7069 Posts

June 16 2011 11:09 GMT

#135

On June 16 2011 19:55 -orb- wrote:
Savior streams? Awesome! Where do I find such a thing?

he streams on afreeca and it got restreamed through daum. me (and after i'd stopped GTR) streamed him over like 6-7 hours. you can find the vods on our justin.tv or youtube channel (i saved the vods as highlights so they wont get wiped)

B o A

90 Posts

June 16 2011 11:46 GMT

#136

i wish that savior could somehow know that there are still many fans out there who still support him despite all the netizens haters

forgive and forget guys, he made a mistake, he paid for it.

ma jae yoon fighting ~!

Torenhire

United States11681 Posts

June 16 2011 12:09 GMT

#137

On June 16 2011 15:41 J1.au wrote:
Funny how sAviOr fanboys have really made a resurgence since that article by Ver.

Because every fan that has ever existed was a bandwagon fan, right?

it's not like people love Boxer, Yellow, Nada, and so on because they were phenomenal players, same with Savior. Being a "fanboy" has nothing to do with it, anyways. We could replace Savior with any of the others involved, or you could hate Savior as a player, the fact stands - he has the right to stream and do whatever he wants unrelated to Kespa.

koreasilver

9109 Posts

June 16 2011 13:56 GMT

#138

On June 16 2011 15:41 J1.au wrote:
Funny how sAviOr fanboys have really made a resurgence since that article by Ver.

People have given me shit for the whole past goddamned year because I insisted that Savior can't be ignored in BW history just because of what he did. It doesn't change that he was the father of modern Zerg.

I think Savior can be forgiven, but that doesn't mean that what he did should be forgotten. Even if he is forgiven, he shouldn't be let into playing BW professionally again, and this really shouldn't be questioned.

Kralic

Canada2628 Posts

June 16 2011 14:31 GMT

#139

I can't see myself forgiving someone who was involved in a scandal that could have ended Korean BW forever. It happened in WC3 with map fixing and it could have happened in BW. I might be overdoing it, but it did have the potential.

That being said, I could care less if he streams or not, he can make a living off of streaming or private coaching and I would not care. It is his time and he can do whatever he wants to, to earn a living and that is his second chance.