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SaviOr's Unwelcomed Return

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cive
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada370 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 01:02:47
June 16 2011 00:06 GMT
#1
Edit:
I guess I will explain:
People (including myself) have a real issue with saviOr[gm] streaming because of two things:

1. He's streaming for money (he gets paid when a viewer chooses to donate by giving him "star-balloons". He could've better defended himself if he disabled this function).

2. He streamed during proleague schedule (I read it from TheMarine twitter; correct me if I'm wrong).

Some one put it nicely on the saviOr thread that:

"We cannot take away a person's right to play a game".

He can play quietly or even stream, if he wanted to just play for fun. Nope, he showed his name then confirmed it by his voice. He took it a step too far.

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Hey, TL!

I thought about it and decided that having a preview and asking you to come to my blog (like the post i made for NASL Boxer vs IdrA) is a bitch move. I don't think it's allowed either according to the rules around here.

Instead, I'm just gonna say it at the end of a post, every now and then.

Come Visit my blog! And disable the damned adblock for TeamLiquid first THEN mine! LOL
http://sweatforauir.blogspot.com/

*
Play Terran
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
June 16 2011 00:15 GMT
#2
1 star. While it's not uncommon for korean haters to ruin people's lives, I hope all of your efforts will fail.
Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 00:21:37
June 16 2011 00:16 GMT
#3
Savior's awesome. It's amazing what he does on stream with such low APM.

EDIT: wait, is this your opinion or are you making a funny comic?
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
gimmeateeshitkent
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia80 Posts
June 16 2011 00:20 GMT
#4
'the power of the lord was too powerful'

1/5
broodwar till i die (fuck blizzard)
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 00:21:10
June 16 2011 00:20 GMT
#5
Unwelcomed? I think it's pretty fucking awesome that he streams.

GOGO SAVIOR! 1/5
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3821 Posts
June 16 2011 00:22 GMT
#6
Cool drawings I guess... Not sure what the point was though
TadH
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1846 Posts
June 16 2011 00:22 GMT
#7
0/5
gds
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Iceland1391 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 00:25:53
June 16 2011 00:24 GMT
#8
edited
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 00:24:59
June 16 2011 00:24 GMT
#9
I hope this is a piece of sarcasm mocking all those schmucks that preach ESPORTS every time anything happens.
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 00:28:23
June 16 2011 00:26 GMT
#10
0/5, Forgive and Forget. Savior will regret it for the rest of his life. Stop holding celebrities to a higher moral standard.
NeV
Profile Joined July 2008
Italy370 Posts
June 16 2011 00:27 GMT
#11
I don't see why he shouldn't play for fun if he wants. Sure, he doesn't deserve another chance in the progaming scene, but he can do whatever he wants in his spare time
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
June 16 2011 00:31 GMT
#12
really... this just like the one time collusion happens and he makes a really really really bad call. and kespa acts like it wasnt gonna happen ever. i dont mind the bro doing what he wants. what about foreign scene hackers still playing legitimately etc etc
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
Zeiryuu
Profile Joined March 2010
Philippines231 Posts
June 16 2011 00:37 GMT
#13
I think banning him from the Korean BW scene is enough punishment. If he's not bothering anyone, I guess we can just let him be.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
June 16 2011 00:40 GMT
#14
I like your artstyle, but I can't say I have an issue with him streaming as a hobby now, even if he did prove he was a piece of shit with what he did.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
June 16 2011 00:41 GMT
#15
except for the unwelcomed part, i thought it was funny lol
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
June 16 2011 00:45 GMT
#16
Savior is a hero and we should Worship him, not judge him. Look at everything he did, the perseverence and belief.. Remember, back then ZvT was even harder than it is now.. and he overcame it and reinvented the matchup the way everyone plays it today. He is the epitome of greatness, nothing can take that away.
Aah thats the stuff..
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
June 16 2011 00:50 GMT
#17
On June 16 2011 09:45 xarthaz wrote:
Savior is a hero and we should Worship him, not judge him. Look at everything he did, the perseverence and belief.. Remember, back then ZvT was even harder than it is now.. and he overcame it and reinvented the matchup the way everyone plays it today. He is the epitome of greatness, nothing can take that away.


I don't think we should worship savior. However, it's ok if he just streams.
Koreans haven't banned him for nothing.
cive
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada370 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 00:54:13
June 16 2011 00:52 GMT
#18
Ah... well, I guess I will explain just a little bit.
People (including myself) have a real issue with saviOr[gm] streaming because of two things:

1. He's streaming for money (he gets paid when a viewer chooses to donate by giving him "star-balloons". He could've better defended himself if he disabled this function).

2. He streamed during proleague schedule (I read it from TheMarine twitter; correct me if I'm wrong).

Some one put it nicely on the saviOr thread that:

"We cannot take away a person's right to play a game".

He can play quietly or even stream, if he wanted to just play for fun. Nope, he showed his name then confirmed it by his voice. He took it a step too far.
Play Terran
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
June 16 2011 00:56 GMT
#19
Bro, its time you look into yourself. What is causing this upset, a lingering bitter attitude toward people trying to achieve things. Think about what you desire from life and what mistakes you have made on the path to getting it. While projecting emotions through hostility keeps sanity, it brings you no closer to the goal you yearn for.
Aah thats the stuff..
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 01:04:51
June 16 2011 01:03 GMT
#20
On June 16 2011 09:52 cive wrote:
Ah... well, I guess I will explain just a little bit.
People (including myself) have a real issue with saviOr[gm] streaming because of two things:

1. He's streaming for money (he gets paid when a viewer chooses to donate by giving him "star-balloons". He could've better defended himself if he disabled this function).

2. He streamed during proleague schedule (I read it from TheMarine twitter; correct me if I'm wrong).

Some one put it nicely on the saviOr thread that:

"We cannot take away a person's right to play a game".

He can play quietly or even stream, if he wanted to just play for fun. Nope, he showed his name then confirmed it by his voice. He took it a step too far.



uhh im pretty sure he can take any step he wants. It sounds like you are trying to decide for him what he can and cannot do, He can show his name, and speak anytime he wishes, and if people want to donate their money out of free will, its their choice, and has nothing to do with savior. IMO its downright retarded to make these statements simply because people donated to him, and he streamed during proleague.

EDIT: Forgot to add, most people here think its the opposite of your title, and welcome his return to gaming.
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