EPTOn June 16 2011 10:58 JiPrime wrote:
Btw, you fanboys can rage at us all you want.
We at DCinside Starcraft Gallery don't care.
Btw, you fanboys can rage at us all you want.
We at DCinside Starcraft Gallery don't care.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
SaviOr's Unwelcomed Return - Page 4
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Carnivorous Sheep
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koreasilver
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On June 16 2011 10:58 JiPrime wrote: Btw, you fanboys can rage at us all you want. We at DCinside Starcraft Gallery don't care. rofl okay buddy | ||
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supernovamaniac
United States3048 Posts
1st: Savior did almost destroy something that many people have built up for years. In the beginning, gaming was bad. I was grounded for watching BW. Eventually, however, it became part of the culture where everyone knows what 'Mining for Mineral' means. One of the greatest player betraying the scene was very huge 2nd: Did I mention that Savior is making money through BW? No? Well know you know. -edit- forgot to mention that these are two reasons why I don't want Savior back. Doesn't mean that I do not want to see him back. | ||
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
On June 16 2011 11:02 supernovamaniac wrote: 2 cents: 1st: Savior did almost destroy something that many people have built up for years. In the beginning, gaming was bad. I was grounded for watching BW. Eventually, however, it became part of the culture where everyone knows what 'Mining for Mineral' means. One of the greatest player betraying the scene was very huge 2nd: Did I mention that Savior is making money through BW? No? Well know you know. -edit- forgot to mention that these are two reasons why I don't want Savior back. Doesn't mean that I do not want to see him back. But the thing is he's not making money by charging for his stream or making it donor only, people simply have the option to donate to him if they so choose. You can't possibly fault him for that... Right? | ||
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xBillehx
United States1289 Posts
On June 16 2011 10:45 JiPrime wrote: What makes you people so certain that all of his achievements were not rigged as well? Nobody knows how long has he been rigging the games. <.< Savior needs to stay the hell away from BW or SC2 scene as much as possible. Words cannot describe the pain people like us got when the truth was out. I believed him until the very end... As of now he made $600 from a day's broadcast. We all cast the stone because we can. It's our duty to show that we are no pushovers, and that we mean serious business. I think it's really pathetic you're trying to prevent OTHER PEOPLE from enjoying what THEY want to enjoy. You don't decide that for other people. If you don't like it don't watch yourself but you have NO RIGHT to attempt to destroy others entertainment. It's not your duty, it's not your right. Please just leave it alone. | ||
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
On June 16 2011 10:45 JiPrime wrote: What makes you people so certain that all of his achievements were not rigged as well? Nobody knows how long has he been rigging the games. <.< Savior needs to stay the hell away from BW or SC2 scene as much as possible. Words cannot describe the pain people like us got when the truth was out. I believed him until the very end... As of now he made $600 from a day's broadcast. You do realize that the people who were match rigging didn't do it to win the games? Basically if I was playing against Flash, the betting websites would pay out 34278953679 times more cash if I won and you bet on me, than the other way around. So what the match fixers figured out, was that if they had matches like the above, and went through a broker (which is what Savior was) they could bet on their opponent to win, and then they would throw the game. Then because the odds were so ridiculous, they'd get a ton of cash back. They bet on themselves to lose, not win. | ||
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ninjafetus
United States231 Posts
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Tatari
United States1179 Posts
On June 16 2011 10:45 JiPrime wrote: We all cast the stone because we can. It's our duty to show that we are no pushovers, and that we mean serious business. Oh yeah? You and what army? On June 16 2011 10:58 JiPrime wrote: Btw, you fanboys can rage at us all you want. We at DCinside Starcraft Gallery don't care. H'okay. You and a ragtag group of keyboard warriors are gonna jump some guy who's gotten money from people donation money of their own free will. I don't know if this is a Korean thing, but I'm really irritated that I'm from the same country this asshat is from. Like someone said earlier, no point in beating a dead horse. IT'S FUCKING DEAD. MOVE ON. | ||
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supernovamaniac
United States3048 Posts
On June 16 2011 11:07 d(O.o)a wrote: But the thing is he's not making money by charging for his stream or making it donor only, people simply have the option to donate to him if they so choose. You can't possibly fault him for that... Right? Yes, it is people's will to pay the streamer or not. The problem that most people have is the idea of earning (or getting donations) from something that he have almost destroyed through illegal betting (essentially $$$). They just want him away from the scene: nothing to do with BW, especially making money off from something that he destroyed. So yes, you can't fault him for just streaming. However, with afreeca's system, streamers can earn money, and most people are assuming that Savior is streaming to make some $$$ through BW (I couldn't verify this because I haven't watched the stream). | ||
ArvickHero
10387 Posts
however I'm grateful that he's choosing to stream, because he's such a fuckin SICK player, with some of the smoothest micro/coordination/multitask I've ever seen. He can help partially pay for his sins by helping the next generation of BW players w/ his livestream FPVOD, as well as giving us viewers a true treat to watch. I'll be sorely disappointed in the Korean community if they get him to stop broadcast his play :\ | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On June 16 2011 11:20 ArvickHero wrote: Savior doesn't deserve to return to the progaming scene or taste the glory of being on the televised live stage ever again for what he did however I'm grateful that he's choosing to stream, because he's such a fuckin SICK player, with some of the smoothest micro/coordination/multitask I've ever seen. He can help partially pay for his sins by helping the next generation of BW players w/ his livestream FPVOD, as well as giving us viewers a true treat to watch. I'll be sorely disappointed in the Korean community if they get him to stop broadcast his play :\ Agreed...his punishment was in regards to his pro days and those are over. To try and force more punishment into his casual play of BW is sadistic. He can do what he wants on his own time including making money off of BW through donations. | ||
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
On June 16 2011 11:14 supernovamaniac wrote: Yes, it is people's will to pay the streamer or not. The problem that most people have is the idea of earning (or getting donations) from something that he have almost destroyed through illegal betting (essentially $$$). They just want him away from the scene: nothing to do with BW, especially making money off from something that he destroyed. So yes, you can't fault him for just streaming. However, with afreeca's system, streamers can earn money, and most people are assuming that Savior is streaming to make some $$$ through BW (I couldn't verify this because I haven't watched the stream). But how is it their right to stop him from playing BW at all, he already can't play it professionaly but there's no reason he can't play it for fun and stream his games whether he is doing it for money or not he is doing nothing wrong simply by streaming his games and allowing donations. Even if he were to ask for donations he is still not in the wrong (in my opinion) due to the fact that they're still donations whether he asks for them or not it'll be up to the viewers' themselves to decide whether or not they want to donate. It's not like him saying "donate pls" is going to change the mind of people who weren't going to donate in the first place. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
Everyone makes mistakes, some bigger than others... As long as they don't keep making the same mistakes, I don't see any reason to keep kicking them in the nuts. That's as nicely as I can put it, but to be honest if your other comics weren't good you'd get so much more flak for this. | ||
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BenKen
United States860 Posts
On June 16 2011 11:24 Serpico wrote: Agreed...his punishment was in regards to his pro days and those are over. To try and force more punishment into his casual play of BW is sadistic. He can do what he wants on his own time including making money off of BW through donations. Yeah, I'm fine with him making money off of BW too, as long as it's not in the competitive scene, and we all know that can never happen. He's still paying the price for what he did, and that's enough. I'm glad he hasn't quit playing the game that he showed so much genius in, even though his career in that game ended in life-long shame. If he still has a passion for BW after what he's been through then good for him, and I say this as someone who quit watching BW completely after the match-fixing scandal. | ||
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Kfish
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chomsky
Canada97 Posts
On June 16 2011 11:47 Kfish wrote: by the way, can anyone link his stream please? if he streams through afreeca, don't you need a korean ID or something to watch? although I know some korean-only streams get re-streamed through justin.tv, etc | ||
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supernovamaniac
United States3048 Posts
![[image loading]](http://pds7.egloos.com/pds/200801/06/03/d0019803_47802ba5d32f9.jpg) They're ready to strike | ||
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
On June 16 2011 11:49 supernovamaniac wrote: DCinside Starcraft Gallery is no joke They're ready to strike lololol check out them keyboard warriors! | ||
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gimmeateeshitkent
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xVoiid
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