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Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
June 20 2011 00:29 GMT
#161
To me SaviOr is dead. Ma Jae Yoon can do whatever the fuck he pleases.
JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1806 Posts
June 20 2011 00:50 GMT
#162
Regardless, it really was a huge pity that he did what he did and I will never view him the same way as before. I always thought he was a great player being so far ahead during his time but to have threatened and nearly toppled the entire e-spots scene just doesn't settle well with me. Maybe non of us had put in enough effort and time into the e-spots scene to truly feel the impact of what he did.
火心 Jealous. I always loved that feeling when I was young. Embrace it.
opsayo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
591 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 01:42:48
June 20 2011 01:31 GMT
#163
has a link to his stream been posted?

this blog probably backfired because now i want to watch him

edit: i know it's on afreeca but i can't read korean

edit: also apparently its on justin.tv but i can't find it there after some searching
FakePlasticLove
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States357 Posts
June 20 2011 01:48 GMT
#164
lol at few foreigner fans who support Savior streaming sc. How do you think actual progamers feel? Did you guys all miss KT Rolster's coach rage so hard about this topic?
All walls are great if the roof doesn't fall
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 05:14:31
June 20 2011 05:14 GMT
#165
1/5 a bonjwa streams and people complain :s wtf

this blog is hurting esports!!
ace hwaiting!!
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
June 20 2011 07:34 GMT
#166
On June 20 2011 10:48 FakePlasticLove wrote:
lol at few foreigner fans who support Savior streaming sc. How do you think actual progamers feel? Did you guys all miss KT Rolster's coach rage so hard about this topic?


Did you miss the part after that where he apologized for overreacting and acting without thinking?
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2195 Posts
June 20 2011 07:35 GMT
#167
I have mixed feelings about Savior. On one hand, he betrayed a lot of people (foreigners, especially) when they believed in him for so long, even after his slump. Blizzcon 2010 is a sad thing to remember in retrospect. Everyone adored him, teamliquid fans surrounded the CJ team, and everyone trusted him when he said that he would destroy. We saw his fpv there and he obviously wasn't playing his best against Zero, but we attributed it to it being Blizzcon, where Koreans threw matches anyway. Little did we know...

On the other hand, people make mistakes. No one knows what's going on in his head, whether he regrets his actions, whether he wants to make amends. We always forgive people for their mistakes at some point (barring murder and child abuse, maybe), but when do we forgive this mistake?
Zerg | life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery | www.cstarleague.com <3
FakePlasticLove
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States357 Posts
June 21 2011 01:41 GMT
#168
On June 20 2011 16:34 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 10:48 FakePlasticLove wrote:
lol at few foreigner fans who support Savior streaming sc. How do you think actual progamers feel? Did you guys all miss KT Rolster's coach rage so hard about this topic?


Did you miss the part after that where he apologized for overreacting and acting without thinking?

Yes but that rage wasn't out of nothing. I'm sure tons of other progamers/coaches/members of the e-sports (not some TLer behind a monitor) feel the same way, but do not display their anger for the reasons KT Rolster's coach was criticized .
All walls are great if the roof doesn't fall
Roflhaxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1244 Posts
June 21 2011 12:42 GMT
#169
I just think that people are overreacting a little, I mean like if someone gets caught doing drugs [Like speed, steroides whatever) It's not like people start saying that they should go kill themselves, This is actually a lot less worse imo because if you do speed and win, you actually 'steal' a victory from someone, match fixing just makes you give away a win.
A game where the first thing you do is scout with a “worker”. Does that make any sense? Who scouts with a “worker”? That’s like sending out the janitor to perform recon, what general would do that? Retarded game.
hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2195 Posts
June 21 2011 15:51 GMT
#170
On June 21 2011 21:42 Roflhaxx wrote:
I just think that people are overreacting a little, I mean like if someone gets caught doing drugs [Like speed, steroides whatever) It's not like people start saying that they should go kill themselves, This is actually a lot less worse imo because if you do speed and win, you actually 'steal' a victory from someone, match fixing just makes you give away a win.

He let down his fans and the only thing he destroyed in 2011 was the integrity of the competitive bw scene. It's not about its immediate effect (giving away a win) but what giving a win away means in the larger picture. People trusted Savior.
Zerg | life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery | www.cstarleague.com <3
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
June 21 2011 16:03 GMT
#171
to have threatened and nearly toppled the entire e-spots scene

Ehhh... I dunno. I don't think the esports scene was ever threatened. What Savior did was shitty, but all sports go through this, especially when they get bigger. At the time Savior was caught, he was a really small part of the eSports scene, playing maybe a game a month on TV. As for other players who may have been doing well at the time that were caught, that responsibility is their own and you can't blame Savior for what they did, just like you're unwilling to blame the shady people Savior got involved with for what he did. Putting the blame entirely on Savior is really unfair, and suggesting that the scene almost died because of him is a difficult claim to prove, especially since it survived and the OSL between Flash and Effort had a really big turn out.

I really think if it wasn't Savior, it would have been someone else. It was inevitable that this kind of thing would happened, and had probably happened before. It's just that BW got to the level that it needed to be taken really seriously, and Savior ended up being the scapegoat for everyone's hate (at least in the foreign community). Whoever talks about Yarnc and the others who were involved? They are the ones directly responsible for the thrown games. Savior didn't lose those games for them. Yet no one is mad at them... I can't even name all of them right now. Upmagic... who else? Who even cares? It's kind of weird that the middle man gets so much focus even though his role was relatively small and interchangeable. He should have refused, but I certainly think it would have happened anyway with or without Savior.
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