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1) Flash - absolutely terrifying right now 2) Bisu - similarly scary, but he can and does drop the occasional game to other S-rankers 3) Stork - his autowin build has probably been cracked but he's good enough to bounce back 4) Jaedong - seems mortal but he's still stringing together a solid winrate 5) Fantasy - won OSL, pretty mediocre otherwise, not gonna lie
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flamewheel how the fuck do you right so much O_O
nice PR and very timely ^^
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Nice PR, but there is no need for the whole 1.1, 1.2 thing because the PR is a ranking system. It ranks players according to their skill. This means that even if the player is in, say 3rd, it means they are the third most skilled in the top 3 players.^^
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On February 03 2011 20:38 ReketSomething wrote: flamewheel how the fuck do you right so much O_O
nice PR and very timely ^^
Because he can spell write.
jk
Flash has a lot going for him, but I'd still be hesitant to put him at first because he has a smaller workload to achieve similar results. Also, his carpal tunnel syndrome should count against his "scariness"; he is probably much less scary in a long game now because of simple physical endurance.
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I kind of don't like ZerO over SnOw. SnOw seemed a lot more impressive than ZerO as of late, where the former has gone on to be a consistent player for his team in WL as well as achieve some notable individual successes whilst all I can think of for ZerO is him (and SoulKey) constantly getting rolled by the likes of Bisu and FanTaSy with the only notable occurence of ZerO presently would be his 3-0 smashing of Stork (though Stork is historically inconsistent at PvZ).
Not to say that I dislike ZerO, I still think that he's really the second best Zerg on the scene (Hydra is gradually changing that however) but I personally wasn't anymore impressed by his most recent games anymore than I was of SnOw.
Great PR nonetheless though. It's been a while since I've seen Jaedong so far from the top three slots; I wonder when he'll start stepping it up again because the man really needs a recharge to keep going at the rate he's going).
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ZerO was also the only player that beat Flash last month.
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The percentage chart is interesting view into specialist players, also the lack of active Zerg's overall. Currently only Jaedong is even in the top ELO's for vT and vZ except for Kwanro in vZ. And where is he anyway? Even against vP surprisingly only Calm and ZerO are there as active players in what's considering the most imba matchup (and i'd agree usually). Yet we got an all Z MSL final 4, and wasn't that long ago since the Calm Vs Kwanro MSL. Weird really.
Also i agree with Soulkey possibly becoming a vT specialist. Really impressed by his games. Yarncs ZvT record pains me how he and Lux did what they did. I liked them both. I think Yarnc could probably add a couple of games to his wins if it wasn't for throwing (wasn't one against go.go? Maybe was Lux).
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OK, I think this ranking is fine. Except for one thing.
Fantasy deserves like... 10th place. Sure he won the OSL. But I watched that series vs. Calm, and was as close as I'll ever get to gouging my eyes out. Seriously, there are regular levels of fail, and then there are things that they fail so hard that they are once again awesome, and then there was that series. It is the Plan 9 From Outer Space of the past month.
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Personally I dont see flash at #1.. I think its between Bisu and Fantasy and Flash out of them all I gotta give it to Fantasy followed by flash then Bisu. Its the February Power ranking Stork did well but not well enough to out do Bisu in January. JD is doing well but I agree he seems mortal and Snow games seemed harsh for him to win. Rest is fine i guessss, Im very critical.
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Mostly agree, I'd swap Fantasy and Stork, but the rest of the top 5 is spot on.
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On February 04 2011 07:15 infinity2k9 wrote: The percentage chart is interesting view into specialist players, also the lack of active Zerg's overall. Currently only Jaedong is even in the top ELO's for vT and vZ except for Kwanro in vZ. And where is he anyway? Even against vP surprisingly only Calm and ZerO are there as active players in what's considering the most imba matchup (and i'd agree usually). Yet we got an all Z MSL final 4, and wasn't that long ago since the Calm Vs Kwanro MSL. Weird really.
Also i agree with Soulkey possibly becoming a vT specialist. Really impressed by his games. Yarncs ZvT record pains me how he and Lux did what they did. I liked them both. I think Yarnc could probably add a couple of games to his wins if it wasn't for throwing (wasn't one against go.go? Maybe was Lux).
I should clarify; I only counted players with at least 33 wins in the individual categories, and 100 wins overall. There are actually Zerg players like Hydra (61% vT, 57% vZ, 59% vP), or Shine (64% vZ), Soulkey (60% vZ and vP), etc. that just don't have enough games yet. Same thing is true of some newer Protoss and Terran players, like Bogus (~57 - 60% in everything), TurN (~70% vZ... with only 11 games played), Snow (63% vT), Horang2 (67.5% vP), Stats (55 - 57% in everything), and others.
I just thought that 100 wins was a good start for counting overall win-rate, and when I decided to start figuring out for each match-up, 33 per individual match-up made sense if I was using 100 as the cut-off for the overall.
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On February 04 2011 05:16 HitoriTomoyo wrote: I kind of don't like ZerO over SnOw. SnOw seemed a lot more impressive than ZerO as of late, where the former has gone on to be a consistent player for his team in WL as well as achieve some notable individual successes whilst all I can think of for ZerO is him (and SoulKey) constantly getting rolled by the likes of Bisu and FanTaSy with the only notable occurence of ZerO presently would be his 3-0 smashing of Stork (though Stork is historically inconsistent at PvZ).
Not to say that I dislike ZerO, I still think that he's really the second best Zerg on the scene (Hydra is gradually changing that however) but I personally wasn't anymore impressed by his most recent games anymore than I was of SnOw.
Great PR nonetheless though. It's been a while since I've seen Jaedong so far from the top three slots; I wonder when he'll start stepping it up again because the man really needs a recharge to keep going at the rate he's going).
Let's be fair to Zero and look at his matchlist last month:
He may be 8-6, but that includes:
3 games vs Stork (all W) 1 vs Flash (W) 1 vs Jaedong (L) 1 vs Fantasy (W) 1 vs Bisu (L) 1 vs Sea (W) 3 vs Soulkey (WLW) 1 vs Snow (L) 1 vs Action (L) 1 vs Frozen (L)
all in all, that's a damn good lineup of opponents
Snow is 9-8 vs a lesser lineup. Granted, his play vs Jaedong was phenomenal, but apart from that his month wasn't that great. Zero deserves his spot.
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When will everyone realise that the PR is not about statistics and results (go argue with the kespa ranking about that if you want)... it is about POWER. So everyone that keeps whining about Flash being no.1 should seriously think about what PR is actually about... Yes sure, the players with the most "power" do tend to win more often and they do have the results to show for it, but not always, everyone loses at some point... This is a POWER RANK not a "who's your favorite player rank"... Keep that in mind before you criticize the rankings... Good job Flamewheel!
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On February 04 2011 16:32 4vvhiplash7 wrote: When will everyone realise that the PR is not about statistics and results (go argue with the kespa ranking about that if you want)... it is about POWER. So everyone that keeps whining about Flash being no.1 should seriously think about what PR is actually about... Yes sure, the players with the most "power" do tend to win more often and they do have the results to show for it, but not always, everyone loses at some point... This is a POWER RANK not a "who's your favorite player rank"... Keep that in mind before you criticize the rankings... Good job Flamewheel!
The ambiguity of what constitutes POWER (if it is not about statistics and results) is the root of why people dissent on the ranking. Your post puts emphasis on this POWER but can you actually cite what it is instead of just saying what it isn't?
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Very good PR.
And Mr. Stork as well as other tosses should better start learning from Snow's one-basing against terran.
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On February 04 2011 02:23 l0st_romantic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2011 20:38 ReketSomething wrote: flamewheel how the fuck do you right so much O_O
nice PR and very timely ^^ Because he can spell write. jk Flash has a lot going for him, but I'd still be hesitant to put him at first because he has a smaller workload to achieve similar results. Also, his carpal tunnel syndrome should count against his "scariness"; he is probably much less scary in a long game now because of simple physical endurance.
He has 3 3 kills, so... Yeah. Doesn't seem to be affecting him too much.
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On February 03 2011 05:26 ninini wrote: I think Hydra is already better than Jaedong at this point. When he wins the MSL, you'll see. Can't wait seeing Hydra take on Flash.
This is ridiculous tbh. What Terran's has Hydra beaten of any note at all? I think you are going to be bitterly disappointed when Flash completely rolls Hydra if they meet. Just because a Z can ZvP does not mean he can ZvT, i think we can all see that by now surely. ZvT is probably the hardest consistent matchup there is, just try to think of any ZvT specialists. Yarnc? That's basically it. [/QUOTE]
Maybe you're right that ZvT might be a weakness, but Hydra is far from a ZvP sniper. I think he's got the best ZvZ right now, and for that reason he'll win the MSL. Maybe that doesn't make him the best zerg though, since his vT is still questionable.
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I think this is a great PR Flamewheel. It's been a long time since I really enjoyed reading one, end to end. The quality of your writing was very nice indeed . Keep up the awesome work!
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