EPTI approve
Power Rank 02/01/2011 - Page 9
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JosephStalin
United States20 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On February 02 2011 22:55 Elroi wrote: If Stork didn't advance in any starleague he would look unbeatable too, and I'm almost 100% sure he would have had a better PL record too by now. Sure, we can only judge from what we see and think we know. If you advance you have the chance to show your skills in yet another league, but he showed that he can lose horrible 0-3's in BoX. | ||
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aupstar
Australia912 Posts
 Thank you and keep it up! | ||
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popzags
Poland604 Posts
NO CLOSE NO CIGAR:  LetaHe is on nine-game losing streak and although it began with losses to top players, beatdowns from hands of  Perfectman,  Hero and Roro wouldn't ever happen to old good Leta. Dude, c'mon!FreeHe scored couple of wins in January, but his complete inability to at least put up a good fight against decent opponents makes me rage. Also, losing to ggaemo and Frozen shouldn't ever happen.Kwanro![[image loading]](http://www.gram.pl/upl/news/120090225172547.jpg) Where the fuck is he? | ||
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Grebliv
Iceland800 Posts
On February 03 2011 02:13 popzags wrote: + Show Spoiler + The only thing I disagree with is Stork's placement. He should really be behind Bisu. NO CLOSE NO CIGAR: LetaHe is on nine-game losing streak and although it began with losses to top players, beatdowns from hands of Perfectman, Hero and Roro wouldn't ever happen to old good Leta. Dude, c'mon!FreeHe scored couple of wins in January, but his complete inability to at least put up a good fight against decent opponents makes me rage. Also, losing to ggaemo and Frozen shouldn't ever happen.KwanroWhere the fuck is he? Found him!: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/9190/waldok.jpg) | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10347 Posts
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mmdmmd
722 Posts
Fantasy underdog vs Stork Coach declare Fantasy best TvP in the world now. a few hours later... Fantasy loses all his TvP so far. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On February 02 2011 20:46 Fenrax wrote: That is not even close to Hydra's streak. And also, unlike when Hyuk won a lot, when watching Hydra at the moment I don't feel that there is much luck or buildorder gambling involved. During that streak Hyuk beat a lot of Protosses with Hydra busts and a lot of Terrans (if that was this time) with 2-Hatch-Muta-Ling breaks or similar strategies. Not that there is anything wrong with that, Hydra does it too. But Hydra also plays Standard games and just wins them because of his sense for strategy, Micro and Macro. So I don't think that Hydra's streak is a fluke. I think he is just a damn good player. 90% sure Hyuk's streak was better than that, imma look it up later. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
The earliest: July/August 2008. 3-0 against Shine, Luxury, magma, then proceeds to roflstomp through both prelims for a 15-2 total record... before crashing out 1-2 against Pure in his first OSL match. The next: in July-September 2009. Riding a 4-games Proleague streak - including a win over Jaedong - Hyuk rips up the prelims again, then beats Jaedong (again) and EffOrt and Kwanro in Proleague, with a final tally of 22-5. He's then stopped in his first OSL match, 1-2 against Pure. And again: in April 2010. Starting with wins over Puma and fOrGG, Hyuk puts together a 16-3 run through the middle of June (including OSL prelims this time) before going back to being smacked around in Proleague. Leaving out prelims, we can still find: The 2009 run: 10-2 The 2010 run: 9-2 | ||
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ninini
Sweden1204 Posts
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chameleonism
United States31 Posts
If Stork would have won just 1 of those 2 series or they been close, I think he would be a shoe in for top slot. However, he went out in rather bad fashion so he obviously falls. He is still ahead of Bisu since he is crushing him head to head. As for JD, his numbers are still pretty good and he is still moving through the MSL. He may not have played perfect in that Snow series but he found a way to win and Snow looked like he was the love child of Bisu and Stork. Oz has been playing better overall so we have seen less playtime from JD. He does have a couple WL losses but I'm not too concerned considering they were against Protoss and he just won a tough ZvP series. I really think JD should have been somewhere between #1 and #3. Fantasy won the OSL. That is a huge achievement. Yes, he didn't have to face Flash or JD in a series, but he beat who they put in front of him and he did crush Stork. That alone could have put him in the #1 spot tbh. However, his WL performance has not been exceptional so I see the why people have concerns. If you look at the power rank as "who is the most fearsome player atm" than I would put Flash on top. However, if you look at the achievements in that month, combination of WL/OSL/MSL, I really think Fantasy should have been given the nod. I do think Flash should be penalized for not being in either single player league (through January). My personal list: Fantasy, JD, Stork, Flash, Bisu. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On February 03 2011 05:27 chameleonism wrote: I think you would have to put Flash as either 1st or 4th. It really depends on if you discount him not being in any of the single player leagues. If you discount what he is doing since he has "less to worry about" so to speak, then I think the rank should go the following: JD/Fantasy, Stork, Flash, Bisu. However, if you think that is in the past and you see him as unstoppable (which he does look right now, tbh) then the rank should be the following: Flash, JD/Fantasy, Stork, Bisu. If Stork would have won just 1 of those 2 series or they been close, I think he would be a shoe in for top slot. However, he went out in rather bad fashion so he obviously falls. He is still ahead of Bisu since he is crushing him head to head. As for JD, his numbers are still pretty good and he is still moving through the MSL. He may not have played perfect in that Snow series but he found a way to win and Snow looked like he was the love child of Bisu and Stork. Oz has been playing better overall so we have seen less playtime from JD. He does have a couple WL losses but I'm not too concerned considering they were against Protoss and he just won a tough ZvP series. I really think JD should have been somewhere between #1 and #3. Fantasy won the OSL. That is a huge achievement. Yes, he didn't have to face Flash or JD in a series, but he beat who they put in front of him and he did crush Stork. That alone could have put him in the #1 spot tbh. However, his WL performance has not been exceptional so I see the why people have concerns. If you look at the power rank as "who is the most fearsome player atm" than I would put Flash on top. However, if you look at the achievements in that month, combination of WL/OSL/MSL, I really think Fantasy should have been given the nod. I do think Flash should be penalized for not being in either single player league (through January). My personal list: Fantasy, JD, Stork, Flash, Bisu. Yeah, I've always viewed the power rank as "who came out of this month as the most dominating?" which is essentially the same thing. Fantasy just doesn't feel dominating atm, just overall quite good, which is why he should def be on it in a respectable position, but the Flash/Stork/Jaedong/Bisu all feel scarier than him. | ||
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
It might feel like the three spots between Flash and Bisu is too much. But that doesn't have to mean a big difference in power. It's just that the field is more competitive than ever. 5 month ago the difference between number 1 and 2 and number 2 and 3 were bigger than the difference between 1 and 5 now. | ||
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Yodo
Russian Federation327 Posts
Coach declare Fantasy best TvP in the world now. a few hours later... Fantasy loses all his TvP so far. Coach has not been so wrong. Lets check overall vs P stats:
As you can see, it is really hard to master TvP. There are only 3 T with winrate above 60%. Fanta's TvP is really gosu. Thx to Mumei for this stats. | ||
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Mumei
United States270 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On February 03 2011 08:59 Yodo wrote: Coach has not been so wrong. Lets check overall vs P stats:
As you can see, it is really hard to master TvP. There are only 3 T with winrate above 60%. Fanta's TvP is really gosu. Thx to Mumei for this stats. Still 8.5% lower than Flash, though. That is a very significant amount. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
Saying that he's the best is pretty bold though. I feel that TvP is actually Flash's best matchup right now. TvT, he usually wins but many of the games are closer than they should have to be. Maybe thats because of TvT nature but I still feel much safer and certain that he's going to win a TvP these days. Despite the stats, I'd rank his matchups TvP > TvZ > TvT In the last 50 TvP games. Flash 42-8 (85%) Fantasy 33-17 (65%) The difference is pretty significant if you ask me and this is just comparing records. | ||
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Yodo
Russian Federation327 Posts
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