• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:02
CEST 14:02
KST 21:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon100Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 8/8 The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Yamato Cup Series StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Bot on ladder an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot Working 1v1, 2v2, 3v3 Ladder Syncronization issues and can't find games
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D [ASL22] Ro16 Group B [BSL23] SM: Ret vs TerrOr -> DragOn vs StRyKeR [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread All you football fans (soccer)! Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Gaming Intensity, Problemati…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8721 users

Power Rank 02/01/2011 - Page 7

Forum Index > Polls & Liquibet
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 30 Next All
ibreakurface
Profile Joined June 2010
United States664 Posts
February 01 2011 23:00 GMT
#121
On February 01 2011 16:50 Severedevil wrote:
It saddens me to see two Terrans at the top. But any ordering of the top five could've held, depending on your fanboyism or how you value different characteristics...

Flash Pros: Top WL record, won head-to-head matches with Bisu and Stork, dominating previous year
Flash Cons: Worst league eliminations of TBLS (dropped out to scrubs + Kal), plays the most successful race
Flash Mitigators: Eliminations were a while ago, and close together in time; maybe a 'fluke'.

Bisu Pros: Top WL record, triple back-to-back all-kills, plays the least successful race
Bisu Cons: Early league elimination, lost most head-to-head matches
Bisu Mitigators: Eliminated at the hands of strong players

Fantasy Pros: Won the fucking OSL 3-0 against the best PvT'er of all time
Fantasy Cons: Comparatively weak Winner's League record, fucking terrible Bo5 against Calm, plays the most successful race
Fantasy Mitigators: Had to prep for his Starleague, didn't get to play much WL except against players that defeated Bisu.

Stork Pros: Top WL record, OSL silver + MSL seed, plays the least successful race, most longevity of any relevant modern player
Stork Cons: Lost 0-3 in two back-to-back Bo5s
Stork Mitigators: Had to play two back-to-back Bo5s against extremely good ZvP/TvP players who could dedicate their time primarily to those series; can also be argued as a fluke due to close proximity of losses and successful WL play following those losses.

Jaedong Pros: Good WL record, favored to win MSL, dominating previous year (I still blame T>>Z maps for Flash's crowning as official Bonjwa over Jaedong)
Jaedong Cons: Terrible loss to Violet, looking 'shaky' in ZvP, lost head-to-head matches


I would've favored Stork-->Jaedong-->Bisu-->Fantasy-->Flash because that's approximately my order of player preference, but... yeah.


Speaking of fanboyism....



I agree with the PR, considering these top 6 have hardly played each other it's hard to place them.

I'm curious why people think bisu>hydra though...
:) I play zerg. FOX AND KT ROLSTER COASTER FAN! Because I love everyone. Except bisu.
DenSkumle
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway108 Posts
February 01 2011 23:01 GMT
#122
just wanna leave my appreciation and approval of the PR.. done! (mayby fantasy a bit high, but it's all good)
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
February 01 2011 23:57 GMT
#123
Almost the same players as I had in mind.
ZergMaestro
Profile Joined January 2011
United States169 Posts
February 01 2011 23:57 GMT
#124
I was going to bitch about how hydra, and snow aren't ranked high enough, but im dumb. They are ranked fine
Ma Jae Yoon #1. The ONLY Maestro. Effort.
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
February 02 2011 00:08 GMT
#125
yay more PR!

Thanks for the effort and timeliness Flamewheel.
jaedong imba
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-02 00:16:56
February 02 2011 00:13 GMT
#126
Hm interesting. Even as SKT fan I would say Fanta should be about 4th. His OSL win is great, but he's hardly doing anything else besides that.
As for Flash as No.1, I guess I can't argue. He has been tearing up everything. Although I do think Bisu has been doing better than Stork lately (no not SKT bias) and they should probably be switched.
JD I have to agree, he's just not showing his magic as much anymore.

Then again, I guess your all 5 can make a claim for No.1 makes sense.

Hydra definetely deserves his spot. He's probably the best player outside the Top 5. Snow and Zero also looked really good too.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
February 02 2011 00:47 GMT
#127
JD is being overlooked in WL because his teammates have been stepping up. Whereas T1 fails except Bisu..
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
February 02 2011 01:18 GMT
#128
On February 02 2011 09:47 dani_caliKorea wrote:
JD is being overlooked in WL because his teammates have been stepping up. Whereas T1 fails except Bisu..

Getting 0-1'd twice (Violet and Stork) doesn't help. He'll probably be at the top of next PR though if this MSL works out for him (and he can maintain good performance in WL).
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
February 02 2011 01:47 GMT
#129
Ya, I expect JD to win MSL and claim #1 next month.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
February 02 2011 02:44 GMT
#130
On February 02 2011 10:47 Holgerius wrote:
Ya, I expect JD to win MSL and claim #1 next month.


Man will I jump in joy if Jaedong can win this MSL (because he'll have tied Nada's record for huge tournament wins or w/e). I think he should definitely be #1 next month if he wins MSL but we shall see ^^. I don't think he should be ranked 5 but whatever was a hard PR to make ^^.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Monkeyshark
Profile Joined April 2010
United States406 Posts
February 02 2011 02:55 GMT
#131
You guys expect JD to win MSL and get #1 next month? What if he suddenly play crappy again in Proleague and win MSL? He'd be another fantasy.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
February 02 2011 03:03 GMT
#132
JD hasn't even been close to being as bad as Fantasy in WL. He's 7-2 in it and is sitting comfortably above 2300 ELO.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-02 03:26:27
February 02 2011 03:25 GMT
#133
Play crappy?
His teammates have just been doing terribad whenever he plays before them and playing good whenever he is clearly waiting to play the role of the anchor.

Hwaseung Oz #1 JD fpl trolls
Hey! Listen!
gostunv
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan1178 Posts
February 02 2011 03:26 GMT
#134
love you flamewheel!
teamblackeye.com ///// http://www.youtube.com/user/gostunv ///// https://twitter.com/forgenjuro
MaiBoA38
Profile Joined June 2008
United States108 Posts
February 02 2011 04:28 GMT
#135
Other than fantasy being a little higher than he should be, this is a very solid power rank. Its been a while since I've liked pretty much everyone in the top 10.
Sometimes its not intentional, sometimes you just botch it.
ZavikZyke
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States382 Posts
February 02 2011 04:30 GMT
#136
Like I said before.. the PR this month is decent since 1-5 is a chaos...

but the ONE thing that bugs me...
why is Fantasy #2? I believe he escaped the Kong Line while Stork should rightfully be #2
Hoejja is Bonjwa
Monkeyshark
Profile Joined April 2010
United States406 Posts
February 02 2011 04:42 GMT
#137
On February 02 2011 12:03 Holgerius wrote:
JD hasn't even been close to being as bad as Fantasy in WL. He's 7-2 in it and is sitting comfortably above 2300 ELO.


I never said he is bad right now. I said "what if?" It's just taking things into consideration before claiming like he's certainly number 1.

Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 02 2011 06:05 GMT
#138
For once I almost entirely agree with the entire powerranking. Not a whole lot to say except for the fantasy slot is well deserved.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
February 02 2011 06:06 GMT
#139
On February 01 2011 17:28 corumjhaelen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2011 17:17 flamewheel wrote:
On February 01 2011 17:10 corumjhaelen wrote:
I would have placed Jaedong higher, and Fantasy lower, cause seriously, the only thing he has done well was his serie against Stork (great play against a psychologically weakened Stork unable to adapt).
His play against Clam should score negative points, I still can't forgive him for that.
I'd have gone with Jaedong/Flash Stork Bisu Fanta I guess.
Can't really blame you though^^

Ahh I wish Ver were here. I actually forgot to quote Ver, but Ver really wanted me to put Fantasy at rank 1 before the SKT-KHAN match.

(5:47:04 AM) Ver uh
(5:47:07 AM) Ver fantasy #1 obviously

Just throwin' the name out there^^

Ok, ok, I completely agree with Fanta placement then :p

Anyway now I have his actual quote.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
February 02 2011 08:04 GMT
#140
Meh, Bisu really needs to step it up and win both leagues and send Flash into his (starcraft) grave this coming month.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 30 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
GSL
11:00
2026 GSTL: Playoffs Round 2
IntoTheiNu 1081
CranKy Ducklings SOOP128
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 262
SHIN 153
Rogue 57
Cure 43
MindelVK 40
Rex 33
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 992
BeSt 620
actioN 312
Soma 264
firebathero 220
Last 195
ZerO 182
Dewaltoss 109
PianO 95
Snow 90
[ Show more ]
Aegong 55
ToSsGirL 48
Sea.KH 47
sorry 42
Mong 35
Hm[arnc] 33
NaDa 31
Sharp 28
910 22
zelot 22
HiyA 16
yabsab 13
JulyZerg 10
Sexy 9
soO 9
Noble 9
Dota 2
Gorgc6584
Dendi1089
febbydoto15
Counter-Strike
byalli2157
x6flipin328
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr67
Other Games
singsing1728
crisheroes280
XaKoH 225
Hui .127
Railgan20
ZerO(Twitch)18
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream11458
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream2005
Other Games
gamesdonequick673
StarCraft 2
TaKeTV 36
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH362
• StrangeGG 73
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• WagamamaTV238
Upcoming Events
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
2h 58m
Spirit vs Mixu
BSL
6h 58m
Ret vs TerrOr
DragOn vs StRyKeR
Replay Cast
11h 58m
Afreeca Starleague
21h 58m
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
22h 58m
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 3h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 21h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 21h
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
GSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

K-JUNGMAN
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.