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Power Rank 02/01/2011 - Page 7

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ibreakurface
Profile Joined June 2010
United States664 Posts
February 01 2011 23:00 GMT
#121
On February 01 2011 16:50 Severedevil wrote:
It saddens me to see two Terrans at the top. But any ordering of the top five could've held, depending on your fanboyism or how you value different characteristics...

Flash Pros: Top WL record, won head-to-head matches with Bisu and Stork, dominating previous year
Flash Cons: Worst league eliminations of TBLS (dropped out to scrubs + Kal), plays the most successful race
Flash Mitigators: Eliminations were a while ago, and close together in time; maybe a 'fluke'.

Bisu Pros: Top WL record, triple back-to-back all-kills, plays the least successful race
Bisu Cons: Early league elimination, lost most head-to-head matches
Bisu Mitigators: Eliminated at the hands of strong players

Fantasy Pros: Won the fucking OSL 3-0 against the best PvT'er of all time
Fantasy Cons: Comparatively weak Winner's League record, fucking terrible Bo5 against Calm, plays the most successful race
Fantasy Mitigators: Had to prep for his Starleague, didn't get to play much WL except against players that defeated Bisu.

Stork Pros: Top WL record, OSL silver + MSL seed, plays the least successful race, most longevity of any relevant modern player
Stork Cons: Lost 0-3 in two back-to-back Bo5s
Stork Mitigators: Had to play two back-to-back Bo5s against extremely good ZvP/TvP players who could dedicate their time primarily to those series; can also be argued as a fluke due to close proximity of losses and successful WL play following those losses.

Jaedong Pros: Good WL record, favored to win MSL, dominating previous year (I still blame T>>Z maps for Flash's crowning as official Bonjwa over Jaedong)
Jaedong Cons: Terrible loss to Violet, looking 'shaky' in ZvP, lost head-to-head matches


I would've favored Stork-->Jaedong-->Bisu-->Fantasy-->Flash because that's approximately my order of player preference, but... yeah.


Speaking of fanboyism....



I agree with the PR, considering these top 6 have hardly played each other it's hard to place them.

I'm curious why people think bisu>hydra though...
:) I play zerg. FOX AND KT ROLSTER COASTER FAN! Because I love everyone. Except bisu.
DenSkumle
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway108 Posts
February 01 2011 23:01 GMT
#122
just wanna leave my appreciation and approval of the PR.. done! (mayby fantasy a bit high, but it's all good)
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
February 01 2011 23:57 GMT
#123
Almost the same players as I had in mind.
ZergMaestro
Profile Joined January 2011
United States169 Posts
February 01 2011 23:57 GMT
#124
I was going to bitch about how hydra, and snow aren't ranked high enough, but im dumb. They are ranked fine
Ma Jae Yoon #1. The ONLY Maestro. Effort.
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
February 02 2011 00:08 GMT
#125
yay more PR!

Thanks for the effort and timeliness Flamewheel.
jaedong imba
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-02 00:16:56
February 02 2011 00:13 GMT
#126
Hm interesting. Even as SKT fan I would say Fanta should be about 4th. His OSL win is great, but he's hardly doing anything else besides that.
As for Flash as No.1, I guess I can't argue. He has been tearing up everything. Although I do think Bisu has been doing better than Stork lately (no not SKT bias) and they should probably be switched.
JD I have to agree, he's just not showing his magic as much anymore.

Then again, I guess your all 5 can make a claim for No.1 makes sense.

Hydra definetely deserves his spot. He's probably the best player outside the Top 5. Snow and Zero also looked really good too.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
February 02 2011 00:47 GMT
#127
JD is being overlooked in WL because his teammates have been stepping up. Whereas T1 fails except Bisu..
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
February 02 2011 01:18 GMT
#128
On February 02 2011 09:47 dani_caliKorea wrote:
JD is being overlooked in WL because his teammates have been stepping up. Whereas T1 fails except Bisu..

Getting 0-1'd twice (Violet and Stork) doesn't help. He'll probably be at the top of next PR though if this MSL works out for him (and he can maintain good performance in WL).
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
February 02 2011 01:47 GMT
#129
Ya, I expect JD to win MSL and claim #1 next month.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
February 02 2011 02:44 GMT
#130
On February 02 2011 10:47 Holgerius wrote:
Ya, I expect JD to win MSL and claim #1 next month.


Man will I jump in joy if Jaedong can win this MSL (because he'll have tied Nada's record for huge tournament wins or w/e). I think he should definitely be #1 next month if he wins MSL but we shall see ^^. I don't think he should be ranked 5 but whatever was a hard PR to make ^^.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Monkeyshark
Profile Joined April 2010
United States406 Posts
February 02 2011 02:55 GMT
#131
You guys expect JD to win MSL and get #1 next month? What if he suddenly play crappy again in Proleague and win MSL? He'd be another fantasy.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
February 02 2011 03:03 GMT
#132
JD hasn't even been close to being as bad as Fantasy in WL. He's 7-2 in it and is sitting comfortably above 2300 ELO.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-02 03:26:27
February 02 2011 03:25 GMT
#133
Play crappy?
His teammates have just been doing terribad whenever he plays before them and playing good whenever he is clearly waiting to play the role of the anchor.

Hwaseung Oz #1 JD fpl trolls
Hey! Listen!
gostunv
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan1178 Posts
February 02 2011 03:26 GMT
#134
love you flamewheel!
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MaiBoA38
Profile Joined June 2008
United States108 Posts
February 02 2011 04:28 GMT
#135
Other than fantasy being a little higher than he should be, this is a very solid power rank. Its been a while since I've liked pretty much everyone in the top 10.
Sometimes its not intentional, sometimes you just botch it.
ZavikZyke
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States382 Posts
February 02 2011 04:30 GMT
#136
Like I said before.. the PR this month is decent since 1-5 is a chaos...

but the ONE thing that bugs me...
why is Fantasy #2? I believe he escaped the Kong Line while Stork should rightfully be #2
Hoejja is Bonjwa
Monkeyshark
Profile Joined April 2010
United States406 Posts
February 02 2011 04:42 GMT
#137
On February 02 2011 12:03 Holgerius wrote:
JD hasn't even been close to being as bad as Fantasy in WL. He's 7-2 in it and is sitting comfortably above 2300 ELO.


I never said he is bad right now. I said "what if?" It's just taking things into consideration before claiming like he's certainly number 1.

Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 02 2011 06:05 GMT
#138
For once I almost entirely agree with the entire powerranking. Not a whole lot to say except for the fantasy slot is well deserved.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
February 02 2011 06:06 GMT
#139
On February 01 2011 17:28 corumjhaelen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2011 17:17 flamewheel wrote:
On February 01 2011 17:10 corumjhaelen wrote:
I would have placed Jaedong higher, and Fantasy lower, cause seriously, the only thing he has done well was his serie against Stork (great play against a psychologically weakened Stork unable to adapt).
His play against Clam should score negative points, I still can't forgive him for that.
I'd have gone with Jaedong/Flash Stork Bisu Fanta I guess.
Can't really blame you though^^

Ahh I wish Ver were here. I actually forgot to quote Ver, but Ver really wanted me to put Fantasy at rank 1 before the SKT-KHAN match.

(5:47:04 AM) Ver uh
(5:47:07 AM) Ver fantasy #1 obviously

Just throwin' the name out there^^

Ok, ok, I completely agree with Fanta placement then :p

Anyway now I have his actual quote.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
February 02 2011 08:04 GMT
#140
Meh, Bisu really needs to step it up and win both leagues and send Flash into his (starcraft) grave this coming month.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
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