Never thought the day would come when I would read a cannon rush strategy guide. Great writeup nonetheless. Very detailed.
I might actually cannon rush in some costom games right naow....

RoyW

Ireland270 Posts

August 11 2010 17:53 GMT

#23

Ha, first game today, I was cannon rushed. Thanks to this guide, i successfully defended it.

Thanks

Moa

United States790 Posts

August 11 2010 17:54 GMT

#24

Stopping a cannon rush doesn't put most people on edge psychologically it elates them they are in a powerful position to end the game easily and they know you aren't in a strong position. People are only shaken by cheese when it works when it fails they are out for blood and in a position to get it.

EccoEcco

United States61 Posts

August 11 2010 17:55 GMT

#25

As Terran I just build a bunker concurrent to the warp-in of the threatening cannon (not the defending cannon) and set an SCV to repair it. I like letting the cannons finish because I know it costs my opponent resources, and I can take them out easily out once I have marauders. I lose if I place the bunker poorly. It has to have range to also be about max range out from the edge of my base to make sure a probe/cannon can't squeeze by in a shortcut. I Toss tries to start up a new cannon farm somewhere else, I have plenty of units in time.

Toss tends to lose 650+ minerals while I lose the repair cost on the bunker.

The only bummer is that toss has so much time in my base to see what I'm doing, but I have only seen one player so far open with a cannon rush and actually play competently in the mid-game so i don't worry much.

groms

Canada1017 Posts

August 11 2010 17:56 GMT

#26

You cannon rush against terran?

I can't say I agree with that move t.t

+ Show Spoiler +

they can lift their stuff ^^

Also beating a cannon rush on DO is just about the best feeling in the world. Especially if you troll the person who cannon rush'd you after you win. "Nice cannon rush bro"

Herculix

United States946 Posts

August 11 2010 17:57 GMT

#27

i'm about to read it, but i love the quote, "anyone who can be cheesed, should be cheesed." maybe i'll actually consider cannon rushing for once after all this.

NukeTheBunnys

United States1004 Posts

August 11 2010 17:57 GMT

#28

Great guide, people hating cause its cheese is kinda funny considering you go into great detail about how to defend against it as well(which is what I think I will get most use out of)

rathe

United States109 Posts

August 11 2010 17:58 GMT

#29

On August 12 2010 02:53 RoyW wrote:
Ha, first game today, I was cannon rushed. Thanks to this guide, i successfully defended it.

Thanks

Sweet! I'm glad that it worked out for you

TUski

United States1258 Posts

August 11 2010 17:59 GMT

#30

Terrans don’t feel bad about playing their POS overpowered race. So you shouldn’t feel bad about cheesing. It takes a lot more skill to do a cannon rush than it does to do 3rax 1A GG.

This validates the thread.

n3mo

United States298 Posts

August 11 2010 18:04 GMT

#31

im impressed. that was quite the comprehensive guide, and love the writing tone. while i admire your thought in the cannon rush, im afraid you are one of the few who do it with any intelligent thought at all.

Mantikor

United States68 Posts

August 11 2010 18:08 GMT

#32

lol, If being "top5 platinum when i play" helps you sleep at night, and you cant get there any other way... By all means kid, cannon rush away.

The Justifications part of this post is beyond hilarious

rathe

United States109 Posts

August 11 2010 18:10 GMT

#33

On August 12 2010 03:08 Mantikor wrote:
lol, If being "top5 platinum when i play" helps you sleep at night, and you cant get there any other way... By all means kid, cannon rush away.

The Justifications part of this post is beyond hilarious

I was aiming for hilarious, but if I have surpassed even that lofty goal, I am humbled.

statikg

Canada930 Posts

August 11 2010 18:12 GMT

#34

Why not a thread about cannon rushing? Don't you ever feel like the game isn't fun anymore when you just play the same 2-3 builds over and over and over again. Sometimes its really fun to cheese especially with your friends.

I have found that cannon rushes work approximately 5x as often if you start with a pylon below a cliff, build a cannon there and then move up to the top of the cliff once that cannon is about complete and build your next cannon up top. This works especially well in the 4v4 map from the beta where there is a big dip in the middle of all 4 bases.

JinjoBust

Korea (North)130 Posts

August 11 2010 18:12 GMT

#35

I snickered earlier today when I had the Tester cannon rush done to me. Needless to say, the end of the match saw this gem after I tarred the kid:

"You're not Tester."
"Rofl"

crfty

United States174 Posts

August 11 2010 18:14 GMT

#36

Not a strategy you'll get respect for, but man this is fun to do in 4's with friends, or randoms!

Because let's be honest, no one cares about 4v4 anyways.

DwD

Sweden8621 Posts

August 11 2010 18:16 GMT

#37

How do you cannon rush a terran? I tried on my friend for fun and he just lifted off, made a new base and rushed my base(which had like 2 cannons max) and killed me easily.

Shaithis

United States383 Posts

August 11 2010 18:21 GMT

#38

Do we REALLY need a thread about cannon rushing? It's easily the weakest avenue for cheese possible, and you're not really playing the game. Even proxy reapers is more effective / requires more skill.

barrykp

Ireland174 Posts

August 11 2010 18:34 GMT

#39

Losing to a cannon rush is a humiliating feeling. I now always spread my early overlords over my base against Protoss (instead of scouting with the first one for example) to try and see it coming. I have only beaten cannon rushes by expanding to a remote location and then turtling up in my main to drag it out for as long as possible. Hopefully this guide will help with things. I must say I didn't know that spine crawlers outranged cannons! (I'm quite new to the game).

Even though I hate to lose against cannon rushes I have to say this guide is excellently written. And some of the haters who assumed he tries this every game should read the guide before they post...

FiWiFaKi

Canada9858 Posts

August 11 2010 18:44 GMT

#40

Why the hell is everyone hating on this guy. He made a very indepth guide on cannon rushing. You are saying we can only make guides for x style of play? Pros 4 pooled quite often and won many games in bw. How can you punish someone for getting a heavy economy and making no defence at the start of a game. Rush him, don't let him get a fast expand and what not.

This build feels pretty good to me, because I do feel that it has a much better transition than that all-in cannon rush.

Tell me what's the difference in a player doing a 3 hatch before pool compared to a cannon rush, they are both what you can call all-in, while this you can actually transition out of. Stop the hate.